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Ok but like who is that blonde dude that had something like a fire ritual before she reincarnated again... and whose the ML (●'◡'●) ... sorry im the type of reader who really likes spoilers ehhehe... just put alot of space so people who doesn't like getting spoiled be mad.

I want to know spoiler too

Idk though... I read the raws and they put emphasis on the girl next to the female lead. I think our MC is trying to get the female majesty to like her so she and her entire family won’t be killed again.
But that’s just a theory cause I don’t know Korean ¯_(ツ)_/¯

In the Shadow Queen the prince is the ML if you didn’t know.

True. But she is still badass. The prince is kinda pathetic but also not that bad.

https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/shadow-queen-manhwa.106459/

I’ve already seen spoilers after someone made like 5 different posts spoiling the novel. The prince is one of my fave ml’s tbh.

Do you know a novel or webtoon where the ML is not the Prince or King AND who isn't a cruel abusive murderius bastard?

Beware of the Villainess!, The Blood Of Madam Giselle, Survive as the Hero's Wife, The Pet of the Villainess Webtoon, that’s all I can think of right now. Where the ML’s are not princes or kings.

I also know and love these empowering stories ^^, well except The Blood Of Madam Giselle - Not my cup of tea but still well written.

What are you talking about? The ML is from Survive as the Hero's Wife is a prince.

Also The Demon King Wants to Die, (the “king” is actually a female), I Raised Cinderella Preciously, When the Villainess Loves, The Princess in the Dumpster, My Husband Hides His Beauty, Under the Oak Tree, I've Become the Villainous Emperor of a Novel, My Sister Picked Up The Male Lead, Ebony, The Lady I Served Became a Young Master

Oops- my bad

I see we have similar tastes ^^
Under the Oak Tree; My Sister Picked Up The Male Lead AND The Lady I Served Became a Young Master are not exactly that empowering or progressive. My opinion.

I like also to recommend Cheerful Countess Sisters, Charlotte + her five disciples and Kingdom Of The Queen.

And Please Throw Me Away, I Saved The Cursed Duke, The Villainess Lives Twice, Beware of the Red Thread, The Evil Lady's Hero, Miss Not-So Sidekick, The Duchess' 50 Tea Recipes

I’m going to read Charlotte and her five disciplines after it’s done. I think it’ll be a fun binge.

I also very like Daisy - How to Become the Duke's Fiancée (Weak normal relatable girl becoming stronger and cunning) and The Lady's Butler (Second Male Lead gets the right girl^^ ^^ ^^)

With "Please Throw Me Away" you need a lot of patient with the story and MC because it takes very much a lot of time for her to get more radical with a real spark of anger.
I am not fond of "Beware of the Red Thread" because MC gets easily overpowered and literally kidnapped.
And "Miss Not-So Sidekick" is a little too stupid for me + I hate cruel overpowered MLs who can do whatever they want and only spare those that caught their interests.

Ah, right I forgot that Arwin is a bit cruel lol.

Another recommendation:
The Stereotypical Life of a Reincarnated Lady
Red haired bored self aware overthinking reincarnated MC
Asian Lady from another world who is a badass martial artist and 43 years old
And another antagonistic lady who has a crush on the ML and is super fast and strong
The ML is cute because he has no social compentence or emotional intelligent - Very awkward and hard working

The way I see it Arwin treats MC as a toy and she can't do much against his antics or control. She always has to please him which is a very unfair imbalanced power dynamic.

I’ll give that one a try, thank you!

You re welcome! I think this webtoon indirectly does make fun of isekai or reincarnation romance tropes.

yeah but the prince was actually never an enemy and was trying to protect her

Yes, I been knew. I’ve read a shit ton of spoilers. I thought this person was under the impression that the crown prince was not a good ML and wanted to see what they thought of him.

Please read the spoilers for this...it's gonna get good.. :)

Strip them of their power and title then let stew in a cell a few days before judging if they walk the path of banishment/exile or death, but it takes place it a time of "this now then we'll talk later"

I think she is just a very humble person and quite selfless (which is kinda rare nowdays). Like you mentioned, her guilt of killing thousands is a bit weight on her shoulder and I think she only wanted to live in a small house with her brother. She also probably didn’t know a ton about how greedy and gross some of the nobles were because she was away at war for so long (like she didn’t even know that her brother was working and their “parents” was using her money for themselves). She technically did recieve some money, but having to take care of a title, land and a large mansion was probably a burden for her too.

Good things comes with problems and headaches. Especially to a Noble.

Look, she wants to amend her sins, she doesnt wants those things like title nor money because taking countless amount of life is much more valuable so she feels guilty.
"Why should I live happily when I killed so many innocent people..." that's what she's thinking. She has a big conscience for a girl like her.

I know many of you would take those rewards but do you really think you could live happily when the hands that you've used was once stained by blood of people who weren't even involve in the war?? That they were so innocent but you have to kill them because it was an order from your king. The knights from the other country who've fighting for not only their lives but also their country and their family, but you've killed them because you also can't risk your peoples lives. Its a burden to be a knight.

"No one in this world has the right to kill."

Yeah money is good, but someone's life is much more valuable. Please remember that.

Omgggg that’s so cool. I stopped reading The Duchess’ 50 Tea Recipes I while ago, but I know I lot more interesting things happened while I left! It’s so cool that the original Chloe gets a chance to change her life as well ^^

^ *a
Why did I switch the “a”s with capital Is? orz

Well love isn’t about pity. Aside from that, Ivan and Alek hate each other (and are family lol)

Good point.

It wasn’t like that at first they did care for her at first and trusted her which was why she was given the culinary job and had a whole kitchen built only for her... they said chef had more power in the household......
There was a reason why they acted that way with her...
First she doesn’t live in the main house so the brothers and grandfather did not know she was abused. They thought she just threw tantrums for attention
Second they didn’t abuse her it was the maids and stepmom and they hid it from the other family members.
Third because she was bullied by the step mom she believed the others where evil as well so she threw tantrums and never accepted them the reason why the grandfather and two brothers didn’t like was because when she threw tantrum she was violent to others and herself. And they trusted her with a huge responsibility but she kept making mistakes, they said the responsibility that the grandfather entrusted to her would have been very important and given her a lot of power but she betrayed their trust in her at the same time she didn’t accept them as family members... they didn’t know why she kept acting out when they did they felt guilty and tried to make it up and protected her even more.....
Example the blue haired brother was physically and emotionally hurt by her on his 13th bday: she threw a teacup at his head and it shattered I guess he was trying to make friends with her but she pushed him away by hurting him which scarred him emotionally so he never tried to get close to her again. And because she was always violent with other she was moved out of the main house

Throwing a teacup at my head would definitely make me not like a person, i can definitely see why the blue haired boy likes her food he still doesn't really like her. I think proof her older brother liked her was that he would have easily pet her but how he reacted shows in the passed she reacted negatively to it , likely reacting harshly to the sudden contact. The grandfather started treating her better when she clarified she was depressed and abused by the step mom and when she began to use her wit.

Totally not JUST because of she is happier and can cook but more like in their eyes she is maturing and becoming more responsible. If you speed read it, it can really come off as they were neglecful, as you are more prone to look over details!

Someone finally understands~
I think the only bad thing that the grandpa and brothers did was not send someone to investigate why she is behaving like that but I guess it pretty normal.,.

I mean how many parent nowadays sends someone to investigate why their kids act a certain way......... they don’t usually, it’s either that’s just their personality or they are going through puberty or a phase so that’s probably why they never even thought she would be bullied because who would dare to bully a child in their family

I am someone who suffers mental illness and I come from a family that can't handle mental health issues at all. And it didn't help that my own family demanded to be their ideal Chinese son that can make them proud... I left that toxic family to save myself. That is why I feel strongly against the family.
I ve re-read chapter 1, 2, 11 and 12 and I do not have any sympathy for the whole family! They didn't suffer like the OGHost and her biological mother. They only care for her as long she is useful and bring honor/prestige to the clan. They starting to like/respect her after the younger sister suddenly does not display anymore mental health issues, shows strenght and brings beneficial results. The grandfather and blond brother cleary sees her as a tool! The blue haired brother gets interested in her because of her cooking skills.
They gave her love because she fullills or exceeds their expectations.
They failed the OGHost and now they pay attenton to the MC!
The MC is the one who has win their affections to protect herself.

It’s not just because she could cook better and is happier...
Before she was violent, not social, and didn’t stand up for herself, or sis anything to earn their respect...
The reason why they respect and care for her now was because she finally let them in, earning their trust and opening up to them.
How could they respect and care fore her when she didn’t let them..... when they tired she was violent towards them... it wasn’t because she was useful to them... it was because she is now being mature responsible and finally taking care of herself...
To them (I’m not saying she is) she was acting like a brat so they treated her as such since they didn’t know about the abuse.
It’s shown when the brother tried to pat her head but held back which shows she had rejected their affections before.
It’s hard to like someone when they don’t trust you or is violent with you(which is because she was abuses but again they don’t know that) just because she family they don’t have to like her. Many brother and sisters ignore each other or don’t get along but if they found out that they were getting bullied the other would step in which was like in this case when they found out she was being bullied they stepped in...
You can’t expect them to like her if she didn’t have any like able traits. it’s like you can’t be friends with everyone in the world there will be people you dislike and they didn’t trash talk her or abused her they just didn’t talk to her. If someone who was violent , threw tantrums, and not social I would try to avoid them as well.
We read the story from either her perspective or the overall perspective but not theirs
I’m not saying it was her fault but it’s not their fault as well they could have done better so could she... there were things they could have done to prevent it there were also things she could have done....

They also tried to win her attention before but she was the one who pushed them away not her fault (it’s the stepmother)

They failed to protect her and they didn't care for her enough to communicate with her properly or even investigate.
They all still look down on her despite knowing the abuses (Ch11+12) until she useful enough to be truly recognized.
So once the OGHost with her mental issues was gone and the new host/MC started to function and succeed in name of the family, they ve become more curious and interested in her to the point where they developed affection for her...
Raws in Newtoki

I don't know about you but that family galls me very much!

I do agree to some of your points. Some of your counter arguments do make sense to this messy family situation.

Fact is that the MC who took over the OGHost is the one who solved most of the problems and who unintentionally get their family love.
Her open friendly attitude may have helped open doors to the heart of the males but without her cooking skills and being acting cute they wouldn't have given her a time of their day.

The OGHost has been always in a disadvantaged position since birth not knowing how to handle any situations. Didn't her issues already started before the arrival of her stepmother?
You can also understand why there readers would rather side with the OGHost and resent the male family members for initially seeing her just as a brat and tool.
Her Maid is the one who truly stood by her.

In the raws they started to get more empathetic and protective after seeing her bruises while she is unconcious.
But where the hell where their care for the OGHost after her suicide attemps?

It is debatable if they actually tried to get her affection before in the past.

I think they were aware of how the stepmother treated her seeing as they said they were tired of the stepmother’s antics. Also, they never tried to reach out to her knowing of her depression. And maybe it’s because they are from a time where they can’t necessarily read a person’s body language but flinching obviously means that she’s scared of something. Also her violence issues where mostly about harming herself. I just don’t understand why you would see someone actively trying to kill themselves and instead of getting help, you label her as gloomy and a ego-maniac. Now their excuse “she has sparkles in her eyes now” It pisses me off that they will probably never feel what their negligence did to that girl.

I think the antics they were tired of was her and her family trying to take their power and money I think by embezzlement

IK NADRICKA SEEMS SUSPICIOUS. but im glad he still being a cinamonroll until the end.

what kinda fucked up god--this is going to be frustrating asf [big lo~ng sigh] i wanna smack him for being a dumbass

Ughhh I hate the stories with amnesia involved

lol, reminds me of JRPG joke on the internet:
First mission: go to school!
last mission: defeat God and uproot all the evils of society

You'll never see it comiiiiing