So after the baby was born, they just ignored her? She just happened to wander around aimlessly and nakedly in civilization and no one bats an eye? No one sought to track down her whereabouts or seek her mother’s relatives? At this day and age? And Heil’s old flame is considered a ‘sibling’?
I felt the writing and dialogue is getting mediocre and cheesy, with the saving grace being the beautiful art and Heil. Downvote me if you want, but thats honestly how i felt. Cant Heil and River enjoy shipping moments without convoluted drama getting in their way?
These are novel ending spoilers, what happens after Desir saved the world and all is well. I skipped all the way to the last paragraph. Please note that the manhwa may go to a different direction possibly. But as far as shipping go, here it is:
*****
Now that the world was at peace, now that there was not a terrorist organization or impending apocalypse, Desir finally allowed himself to slow down and be human. He finally looked at himself and realized what some part of him had felt for a long time.
He glanced towards Adjest, only to see her staring at him, and the two hurriedly looked away from each other without speaking.
“… You’re going to make me say it, aren’t you?” *Crack*
The atmosphere began to freeze calmly.
In the peaceful center of the lily of the valley garden, an ice palace that reflected the radiant moonlight was built.
“I care for you, Desir Arman.”
Adjest reached out her hand with a flushed face. “Would you like to be with me now and forever?” Desir carefully took her hand with a smile on his face. The white, soft and very warm back of her hand. “Forever.”
He kissed it.
1) Can someone explain why Ilya Clandor here: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_god_of_pain_s_groom/uu/ibx_chapter-24/pg-1/
Didn't react in horror when he saw Khaol and Kaveri together, but later on, he did?
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_god_of_pain_s_groom/uu/iur_chapter-30/pg-1/
It wasn't his first time seeing them in bed together, so why did he act as if he did, and caused Khaol to curse his bloodline?
2) Why did Heil say that he can't read the minds of the Clandor bloodline here http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_god_of_pain_s_groom/uu/ibx_chapter-27/pg-1/
And yet here, he can read Rivers thoughts? http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_god_of_pain_s_groom/uu/iur_chapter-33.1/pg-1/
3) Nana says she wasn't chosen as a bride because of her blind eye. http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_god_of_pain_s_groom/uu/tr_chapter-2/pg-1/
So sixty chapters later, why did she suddenly say she didn't know the reason of why she was rejected as a bride? http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_god_of_pain_s_groom/uu/ibx_chapter-67/pg-1/
1) I think it is because Ilya didn't realize that Kaveri was the emperor's concubine. I think he first thought that he was Khaol's normal lover, but then became shocked when he found out that his master was making love with a person belonging to the emperor. It could also be due to the time or place. He just might not have been expecting to see them making love and shouted out in reflex, and unfortunately a guard heard his shout.
2) Heil can't read the minds of the Clandors because he becomes friends/ develops feelings for them. At the time when River first came to the underworld, Heil did not have any feelings for him (either platonic or romantic), so he was able to read his mind. The moment he developed feelings for him, Heil could no longer hear his mind. It's just like when Heil met Forrest. He could also read her mind (that's how he heard all the slander about him). He will be able to read her mind until they become friends and he feels emotionally attached to her (develop platonic feelings of love).
1) Ilya's reaction was one that's genuinely horrified though. And for Khaol, for someone who's being secretive about sleeping with the kings concubine the first time Ilya saw them, he was acting quite normal?
2) I think it's the other way around, isn't it? In the chapter, Heil said he became friends with the Clandors BECAUSE he can't read their minds (and a sucker for their tragic back stories). So it doesn't make sense to me later on why he suddenly can read Rivers thoughts, perhaps author forgot about that plot detail?
1) Ilya is a foreigner, so it takes him a while to understand their language and their culture. That's why he probably didn't understand about the whole concubine of an emperor thing. It was only after he understood their culture that he really knew what Khaol was doing. And I think that's also why Khaol wasn't worried at first. Plus Khaol didn't want to wake up his precious lover who was sleeping.
2) Heil isn't really honest with his feelings. He pretends to be aloof and uncaring, but is actual a really caring person. He just doesn't like to admit his feelings for the Clandor clan. He loses his ability when he starts to care. http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_god_of_pain_s_groom/uu/iur_chapter-36/pg-1/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_god_of_pain_s_groom/uu/iur_chapter-45/pg-35/
3) Sorry, didn't see this point until now. Nana said that her father thought she wasn't good enough because of her eye, but not that she also thought that way. Khaol never came at all to choose a bride, so she was wondering if there was something that was wrong with the family/ her.
I feel like author could've eased it in a bit with Heil x River pairing now that they're canon. Don't get me wrong, I ship them so hard but it feels like author keeps going out of her way to assure us, through either River or Nana, don't worry, they won't get together, Khaol was my past, now you're my future, all the time. Remember that good writing = SHOW, NOT TELL, and there's been so much of 'telling'. Am I the only one who doesn't appreciate it whenever author does this?
This is probably the most well developed character piece any Yaoi has ever seen in a while, especially for Shin, at times it even eclipses the depth of Painter in the night, and instead of giving the recognition the series deserves, all you people could say is 'OMG SHIN YOU BITCH YOURE QUEEN!' Seriously? Did you really read the series just so you could read a stereotypical cliche 'omg I love you let's fuck like bunnies' ending and actually throw a tantrum when you didn't get it?
Don't let the fucking door hit you on the way out. Leave the story to the readers that best know how to appreciate it.
hey I get that some readers don’t deep dive with stories, and this story is a really well developed one, but if the readers enjoy it then let them enjoy it their way. Not everyone has to really “appreciate” the story to read and enjoy it, if some of them make you mad then just leave them be and continue to “appreciate” the story your way
I don't think an 'I LOVE YOU SHIN' is gonna solve the problem nor is it what Shin wants to hear. Shin will be PARALYZED with fear if he hears this because it just reinforces what he's frightened of all along: Wolfgang putting SHIN above his kingship and his country without ANY REGARD for his own self. It's the reason why he was so furious and devastated when Wolfgang tested himself out for poison after Shin was out of his mind with worry. The more he sees the lengths Wolfgang would go through for him, the more he despairs because it means if it gets to a certain point, Wolfgang would sacrifice all for Shin, even if it means turning his back on the throne when Shin never wanted this to happen. Shin knows the duties and potential Wolfgang has as a good king, and I will no be surprised if one day Shin decides to remove himself out of the picture because of how much hold he has over the king.
Please understand... NOBODY is against trauma. NOBODY is against regression due to abuse. You have all these amazing theories and comments about abuse and retarded growth, and everyone has a point. The problem is, from the storytelling angle, THE MANHWA ITSELF IS SHALLOW BAD WRITING. Casting pearls before swine. The manhwa is less intelligent than what you make it to be. It is NOT an accurate portrayal of abuse; if it is, it wouldn't have portrayed Hailynn CRYING AND QUESTIONING HERSELF with FLOWERS AROUND HER. The manhwa has NO IDEA about regression theories because it is far more occupied with showing Hailynn's cuteness and dresses. The author has no clue about regression and trauma theories, because if she knew, the manhwa would've commented or narrated about it. She wouldn't constantly have Hailynn take up almost every mega panel just to show her tears and cuteness. Readers are not able to connect with her because how could they when almost every shot of Hailynn is either a fashion show or making irrelevant actions that other manhwa wouldn't even have bothered. Hailynn tripping? DEDICATE A BIG ASS PANEL FOR IT. Hailynn crying? Let's give her one whole page for it. Hailynn running? Let's take up three pages for it. Hailynn's thoughts? REGRESSED. Is it coz of Trauma? The manhwa: "... ლ(´ڡ`ლ)" Girl is in need of character development and author needs to be less in love with her drawings of Hailynn and focus on world building a bit more please. Becase right now, I KNOW NOTHING about everyone else aside from them commenting on how cute she is every time. Sigh.
i get what you're saying about the manhwa being mainly focused on her cuteness, but i feel like it's not mutually exclusive. like she can have a whole full page display of her cuteness or whatever, but that cuteness doesn't take away from her valid experiences and lack of development from her previous life. i'm hoping for some character development in the future or more fleshed out characterization in the coming chapters? it might be just shallow writing for now, but i'm gonna hold out hope for a while longer
I can't take her seriously as an 18 year old reborn soul. I just can't. And I think I know why something doesn't sit right with me the whole time I was reading this.
EVERYTHING about her must be drawn cute. Her reactions in tragedy must be cute and open mouthed. When she runs, it must be cute. When she sleeps, she must be cute. When she walks around and talks, she must be cute. If she chokes on a spoon, she MUST be cute. Her mouth has to be open. ALL THE DAMN TIME. The manhwa shoves it in your face, saying,"look how cute and innocent she is! LET US SPRAY FLOWERS AROUND HER TOO LUL" I'm here saying, ENOUGH ALREADY. IM DONE WITH HER 'O' face. I'm only okay with it if she wields a machete and uses that as her yandere face. INSTANT FAV.
Compare this to Princess in the Dumpster, its updated right next to it at this time, and you'll see why i can't stand this.
I agree I agree. She hasn't developed her social skills (I forgot what it's called) that's why up until now her mind is still childlike. No interactions except when she was abused hence the times he gets scared of adults. We can't blame her if she's still childlike when she wasn't taught or she hasn't seen how adults act.
Hahahah i like this better than lady baby (when she's still a baby) though the MC is too dumb for her actual age. But for me childish baby is still better then a mature baby, a talking mature baby no matter how cute she look is tooooo creepy.
I felt uncomfortable with the first few chapters of lady baby and then i directly skip it until she reaches her teens, then my dislike turned into like to that manga.
But i do agree that the Mc need to get more character development tho
OMG! Me too. That's the reason why I drop Lady Baby. Tbh, I felt really weird when she starts talking at the age of 6 MONTHS OLD. That felt sooo uncomfortable. I tried for a few more chapters but can't stand it anymore. I get it, she has high pride about her family, but could she acts a bit more according to her physical age? It was kinda disturbing seeing a 3 years old talking about proper noble manners. And the worse thing is that NO ADULTS around her find it's weird. They just naturally accept it as it is. Tbh, I would probably be terrified if a 6 months old baby talking like that to me.







Do you know what this is? This is what ‘Am i your daughter’ should’ve been. A memorable, not strong MC but knows when not to give up. Somethings gone wrong when you’re rooting for the bad guys to continue tormenting your MC because author is too much in love with her heroine and dedicates 10 chapters to show how pretty she is during misery times.