From what I can see a lot of you don't realise that BDSM comes with rules for a reason so let me explain.
BDSM involved hurting your partner physically and sometimes verbally in order to pleasure both yourself and your partner. This is what creates a very thin line between a healthy BDSM relationship and an abusive one. For that reason we have rules we follow such as a "safe word." That's not always possible so I would always advice to always have some other way to show your partner you're not into it that you're both aware of it. If a partner ignores that rule and keeps going after you give them the sign that it's too much for you they are betraying you and not respecting you as a person. They are treating you as an object they can use to have fun.
In this case the context of the story implied that they only agreed to do this while recording. After the recording stopped, the uke was expecting for it to end yet the seme kept going. He wasn't considering the ukes emotions at all. It was only after he stopped that he considered if he went too far. If the seme wasn't lucky and the uke wasn't into it then this could have caused emotional scarring. I know people who had problems because of that. One of my friends has PTSD because his wife thought he was cheating and after their session she didn't stop and did a lot of things he didn't want her to do to him. In this case it wouldn't be that extreme but it would create a lot of issues.
If you do not realise that BDSM has rules for a reason then you should learn more about it.
EDIT: If you disagree then go on and comment why. I got one response from someone who doesn't really agree with me and I'm glad that I get to talk it out with them.
EDIT 2: Read page 5. The uke didn't give permission. He said that he didn't want to continue.
Now I'm just waiting to get shit from people.
I agree that this is true, but in regards to the story, chanwoo never said the word, and even at the end enjoyed it, meaning that it was consensual at the end. They probably do lots of role play as master/slave, and I’m pretty sure md did feel regret/shame because he felt he did it too hard, and was planning on apologizing. Just my opinion.
Honestly, I was really surprised at how it was going. Especially since it could be considered 'non consensual' when the recording was over.
Since it ended 'happily' I guess most people don't really mind that.
Still think it was wrong tho
smh
Yes but we do not know whenever they did agree on a word. From we could see their rule was that when they turn the camera off, that's when this ends.
Yes, at the end it did end well. However, you're missing the main point. The main point is that he doing things purely based on his emotions of anger and jealousy. At the moment for all he knew he was abusing his partner. I did mention that he felt shame but it was only after he finished the act. Doing something like that in a relationship like that is a big red flag.
Same. It pisses me off that people think a BDSM relationship that goes like this is ok. This is not one of those low-quality yaoi mangas where we can just say "yaoi logic." This is the stuff that is worthy of respect. If people are reading this without thinking about it then they really aren't respecting the work as much as they could.
With an experienced Dom like MD, I just assume that they have a safe word and safe signals already. He's not an amateur in the scene.
But I am glad to see someone else in the BDSM scene here. Cause I definitely took notice of this stuff, too.
I would just tell people here that are interested in BDSM that they should ALWAYS have a safe word and signal (for times when you can't speak) before starting any sort of play. And communicate with your partner.
I don't came here to say shit but this is just my opinion. MD is profesional dom also he doesn't caused any serious injury. Chanwoo also accept MD request with thought for hardcore bdsm. Plus Chanwoo did say he like that and i think he will say that he hate it when MD give him chance to talk. I don't think you are wrong just from my view, that what i see. Maybe you are right and i was wrong
I agree. They might have a safe word but either way we don't know. I went back to the chapter and on page 5 the uke said "I don't want to" which just proves that he didn't give permission for the seme to continue.
Indeed he is a professional but does this make any of this any better? I went back to the last chapter and on page 5 the uke clearly said that he doesn't want to continue for the day. He might have been into it in the end but the seme still didn't listen to what he said in the beginning. The guy didn't even have good intentions.
I don't think you're wrong from my point of view either. I think that maybe you interpreted things differently or that you are probably forgetting the fact that this wasn't something the uke agreed with (It's easy to miss). I do agree that it's good that the dom did not cause any serious injury but I was referring more to the mental aspect of that. In most cases, the uke would have felt betrayed and not respected.
I can say you are right... After I reread that chapter again, i saw that MD is wrong in his bdsm play but my personal life have nothing to do with this. I dont mind but I just someone who enjoy bdsm as audience and maybe my lack of knowledge about this may have cause your anger. I am sorry
Also just wanna say that uke's body was pretty bruised up after the BDSM scene. If he wasn't into it, he could've had a trauma or something
He literally just broke one of the main rules of having that kind of sex. When things end, things end. Otherwise the relationship will turn abusive. He is one hell of a lucky fucker that our cutie was into it.
i agree with you :(
I'm surprised because knowing the yaoi fandom as a whole, I thought I would get hate for this statement.
Haha me too! While most do not see what was wrong with that chapter, I' am glad that some are aware of the reason why.
Same. I have an interest in bondage and stuff like that so when I see stuff like this and people treating it as normal it shows me that people really don't understand what those types of relationships are really about. There was so much wrong with it, yet people think that stuff is considered ok. I'm glad that I got a positive reply to my comment too :)
I don't know why but I don't think their friendship will last. This might be just because his friend reminds me of someone I used to know who...
I truly understand how being sleep deprived feels. Thus I would like to remind everyone that in his case the logical thing to do after finding out that someone lied just to tease you, which also caused you not being able to sleep. a crime worthy of being punished by death.
Also why would anyone keep working for a company that denies you your holiday and doesn't pay for over time? How come the guy brought glasses worth more than £300? You have to replace them almost every year as your vision gets worse.
I like the manga through.
The creators will get paid (it's free so you don't have to pay) and there are like 60 chapters.
App = webcomics
This literally shows almost everything wrong with yaoi.
-The characters have no good qualities and don't seem even slightly human like
-The sex scene sucked. I mean really, no blood, no shivering, just putting it in so quickly. I'm into stuff like this yet I found this chapter so disappointing. The author must have never drawn a sex scene before and have only seen the most generic yaoi that exists.
-I know I made this point before but the characters are just boring stereotypes with no depth
-The rape scene is so pointless and forced
Very much agreed. Like, I admit, I enjoy some good "horrible stuff" in my fiction. But this one was just.... Meh. The dialog and pacing were just poor. Add to that the horrible character art where the characters look like different people in almost every panel and, well, yeah, not great.
I'm a bit disappointed really.
Same. If they placed a little more time and work into it then this wouldn't be a problem.
Why don't any of the people who disliked my post make some argument as to why I'm wrong?
Bo większość ludzi na tej stronie to debile, którzy wrzeszczą głośno jak ktoś ma odmienne zdanie. Tutaj wszystko trzeba akceptować. Chore lewackie łby.
Alright, good point. I would reply in polish but I can't without using google translate because I can't spell in polish but I do know the grammar so I usually change it so it makes sense.
I assumed you're Polish because you have an icon of Polish flag next to your name.
Yeah, I am but I moved to Poland when I was about 9 and haven't written in polish since then. I can understand it perfectly but I can't write in it. I'm actually considering re-learning it and getting some qualifications in it since all I need to do is learn how to write in it well.
You moved TO Poland and you haven't written in Polish since then? That doesn't make sense. You probably meant that you moved away from Poland.
OMG opppssss. I moved from Poland to England. I just didn't sleep so that's why I'm not paying attention.
analysis/ review of the manga? There seems to be a lot of discussion on the manga and a lot of arguments. I started going through the chapters and from the begging I can see a lot of foreshadowing and interesting details about the characters that I didn't notice the first time I read the manga. AI could even have a look at some of the comments about the characters and the points people made and break them down later on.
If not, then that's alright because I enjoy going through the story and looking back.
From what I can see a lot of you don't realise that BDSM comes with rules for a reason so let me explain.
BDSM involved hurting your partner physically and sometimes verbally in order to pleasure both yourself and your partner. This is what creates a very thin line between a healthy BDSM relationship and an abusive one. For that reason we have rules we follow such as a "safe word." That's not always possible so I would always advice to always have some other way to show your partner you're not into it that you're both aware of it. If a partner ignores that rule and keeps going after you give them the sign that it's too much for you they are betraying you and not respecting you as a person. They are treating you as an object they can use to have fun.
In this case the context of the story implied that they only agreed to do this while recording. After the recording stopped, the uke was expecting for it to end yet the seme kept going. He wasn't considering the ukes emotions at all. It was only after he stopped that he considered if he went too far. If the seme wasn't lucky and the uke wasn't into it then this could have caused emotional scarring. I know people who had problems because of that. One of my friends has PTSD because his wife thought he was cheating and after their session she didn't stop and did a lot of things he didn't want her to do to him. In this case it wouldn't be that extreme but it would create a lot of issues.
If you do not realise that BDSM has rules for a reason then you should learn more about it.
EDIT: If you disagree then go on and comment why. I got one response from someone who doesn't really agree with me and I'm glad that I get to talk it out with them.
EDIT 2: Read page 5. The uke didn't give permission. He said that he didn't want to continue.
While you are correct, this really is only a manga. The creator may not have looked into the issues as much as they could have. Even though, it made this extra really hot, and I'm glad everything turned out great.
Yeah, my problem isn't with the creator. Having this happen in the story is no big deal. The problem are the fans who read this and assume that this is ok during BDSM. The author is just doing their job. The fans shouldn't be ignorant. I know that most of them won't look into it but they might get some information from what I said.
To tell the truth considering BDSM, this chapter wasn't even hardcore when compared to the other stuff out there.
Thank you for all the information. Is good to be aware of that ! (=・ω・=)
I was thinking exactly that!! OMG! Well said!
Woah.. Thanks for the info and well said (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Yes I agree with what you are saying and taking these kind of liberties with rules of BDSM while showing this level of violence can cause really a ton of misunderstandings, when the author just could have chosen to do it differently without it losing any "hotness"
Nah, the author isn't to blame. There are couples that are unaware of this type of stuff. The problem are the fans who read without thinking.
True lol. If you've read what i have over the years, there is defiantly worse out there!