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same but the seme forces him to do several things with him once you’re in a place like that with someone the power dynamic is hard to change. i just wish we got those flashback scenes to see how their dynamic was in high school

Agreed, I'm beyond curious to know the entire history of their high school time together. Maybe that's yet to come, one can hope.

i’ve been wishing for it ever since we got the first flashbacks i’m struggling to wanna keep reading if we’re js gonna get pointless drama

if you didn't like him in omega complex, you'll like him here LOL that's what happened to me and from what I saw, other people that also didn't like him; he's not toxic and idk how people literally mischaracterize him so bad when it's really easy to understand him from the novel; I recommend reading it, it's so good! And the manhwa is great as well!; ofc every manhwa has its bit of angst but this one is honestly not that bad! They're really cute and he treats wooyeon very very well and I like alpha trauma wayy better than omega complex bc I feel like omega complex was fluff and slice of life but this goes kinda deeper in terms of plot, the characters, and the relationship buildup! Let me know what you think!

I have another question. I've seen people say that's he's manipulative,that he was toying with the mc's feelings knowing that the Mc has a crush on him and that his chasing/ groveling arc was unsatisfying. Is it true ? Also would you recommend reading the novel over the manhwa?

um he's a little dumb but he really does like the mc he just feels guilty about two things so he feels like he shouldn't like him but it's really not bad, and as for the groveling arc he didn't do anything too too bad to warrant such an intense chasing arc, and there was a misunderstanding anyways, but he does clear it up and apologize and work to redeem him to mc- you should read it and the novel too it's cute overall and he's not a bad person

SAME HERE

She is a pervert and also I feel like she's better off doing it with logan.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who feels this way, I thought that my comment would be downvoted alot by pania supporters but I still wanted to post it coz I feel it's ridiculous that naos gets hated on for enforcing his boundaries while pania repeatedly crosses his boundaries all while pretending that she's doing it for his sake.. If he was a woman ,he would have been praised for standing his ground and everyone would have thought that pania is sleazy and pushy.

Honestly i see lot of 'yearning 2nd ml' potential in logan. Unfortunately the author will most likely just make him and pania hang out alot so naos gets jealous and realises his feelings,then make naos apologize to pania eventhough all he did was uphold his boundaries.

Thanks for bringing up this perspective! Never thought about this in his pov and now I feel kinda sad for him!
But I don't know if I think she's exacly taking advantage of him - not in every situation, at least... I mean, she's even lost her virginity and keeps constantly puting herself in extremely vulnerable situations to help him too...
Idk, I'm not a Pania's supporter or anything, just trying to put myself in her shoes here... I think the author's trying to state that she probably likes this situations better than him bcuz it's her crush after all, but his reluctance makes me feel like If I was him that would be my nightmare

Yeah I do acknowledge that pania is not taking undue advantage of naos and that the author probably doesnt realise that the situation is quite icky from naos pov. Its just sometimes feels like she often disregards his discomfort coz she's too excited at the prospect of touching him. That's what made me realise how unfair this situation is for naos. Honestly if the genders were reversed,this would be a typical male gaze pornwha,where the girl is forced to be intimate with a guy until eventually the pleasure gets to her head and she falls in love . Of course ,this manhwa is nowhere as gross or extreme as that but im sure that people wouldnt have enjoyed this story as much if naos was a woman. I know that this is a light hearted series ,so there no need for me to read into it so much but I especially feel the need to highlight the unfair dynamic coz I feel there's a huge double standard when it comes to ml's, everyone expects ml's to always do whatever the fls wants and don't expect them to have any autonomy of their own. That's why so many people have been hating on naos for being 'rude' when all he's doing upholding his boundaries and not letting her have false hope.

yall analysing the ethics of smut too much

I mean just coz it's smut doesn't mean we need to turn our brains off while reading it. Just coz it's smut doesn't mean that we as readers can't have any semblance of intelligent or meaningful conversations about it. Seriously for any smut out there,if there's even the smallest hint of dubcon or noncon,you'll see bunch of comments talking about it and no one asks them why are they analyzing the ethics of smut.So I don't understand how is me pointing out a problematic theme in this manhwa somehow seen as something unnecessary, especially when it's something that no one seems to be talking about. Having conversations whether it be praise,critique or sharing your opinions is a part of consuming media. I'm not above reading stuff with problematic themes,I've read my fair share of toxic romances but for me, it's important to understand and acknowledge that it's problematic, not just turn my brain off and gloss over it.

I mean, some of Naos behaviors are, indeed, rude - if I'm not mistaken I remember he's known for being quite a jerk -, which is why I understand people's hatred towards him and his attitudes with Pania, specially because needs her to deal with the curse.
But, as I said, I never really thought about his perspective in this whole situation and I probably would have if the roles were reversed (I tend to put myself in women's shoes more easily). So I'm glad someone's talking about this anyway! I try not to do it but often hold some double standards myself.

Me too!! I’m dying to know! It’s clear now she don’t give shits bout international readers opinion. She just wanna RAGEBAIT now ig smh

The ratings tanked from 8.4 to 6.5 on webtoon, and a noticeable trend is that it goes up each time dohwa makes an appearance

Now I'm even more confused. The ratings have tanked and dohwa stans are the only saving grace for the author but theyve made it clear that they have no intention of showing any development between suae and dohwa nor are they trying to salvage the situation by making eunhyuk apologize. For whom is the author even writing this story for anymore? I can only imagine that they intended to end it but their publisher wanted them to drag it on longer so out of spite they're ruining the story.

Lmkk if you find somee

"cat therapy" ig? The author is same

I came across 'Don't press the button' which seemed promising but lot of the comments mention that the novel is better

Hey there again girly, saw your comment on my timeline, this one is still ongoing.
LMK if you like it, uke is a shifter wildcat is super sassy and confident. And the tiger sifter seme loves cats. So same similar vibes as this manhwa.
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/give_birth_to_a_baby_wildcat_for_me_unless_you_want_to_see_me_go_insane/

Thankyouuu

As a person who follows and reads both novels they are polar opposites in terms of story content and themes

Try:
Ookami-kun wa kowakunai
it's about high schoolers though but if you want more mature characters:
My Purrfect Boss!
Or
To Make A Delicious Omega Squeak

Thank you so much!!!

So which would you recommend reading?

Thank you!

Novel

Thanks!

its so fkn weird but ive seen it sooo many times in japanese mangas and the bff always ends up liking her too after being a huge hater

ive read the novel (from a korean site then just google translated everything) I was around chapter 100+ and she's still far from finding out he's her husband. i was already out of chapters back then and i was losing my mind. read from a pirate site just to avoid the cliff hanger and ive just brought myself for an even worse cliff hanger there. atp, im just going to hold out with this manhwa and hope that it catches up until she knows the truth lol

Oh it hasn't been revealed in the novel either?

Yeah. As far as I've read that is. If I remember correctly, I was at around chapter 111 and it was one of the last chapters available.ml had a fake corpse to show fl that her husband was already dead, but fl finds out that the corpse was fake....no signs of her finding out in the plot that the ml here is her real husband so this is going to be a very long ride

oh God,I hope the manhwa picks up the pace coz I cant handle the suspense anymore.

I’ve never once thought she was annoying while reading this, I think the novel readers just are super critical because I’m like 99% the manhwa is going exactly as the novel, nothing is getting changed or watered down

I found out that 1 scene has been changed,the part where they are eating hotpot and the niece calls him for help. In the novel,the fl didn't know it was a car accident and thought that the niece is just throwing a tantrum so she makes it obvious to the ml that she'll be very upset if he goes to help his niece out unlike the manhwa where she tells him that she'll wait for him. It seems like it rubbed ppl the wrong way seeing her guilt trip him. Also from the reviews,seems like they really dislike the fl's behavior after they get back together after the breakup,apparently she makes a lot of unreasonable demands towards the ml like she wants him to bring her a gift everytime he picks her up and wants him to essentially change his whole personality. Again I don't know the context behind the demands, she could very well not be serious or upset with him and is just teasing him . Also honestly, I sometimes find the ml to be too aloof and would love to see him be more expressive with his words.

Not sure about the novel but in the drama, she is mostly teasing him about getting gifts. Like she jokes about not getting gifts for all the holidays they missed while they were broken up and is surprised when he takes it seriously and sends her a bunch of stuff.
Yea the ML really doesn’t use his words enough. He’s more of the type to show his feelings through his actions.

Yeah that what the review was talking about. They were upset that she made such a demand and when I read the review,I felt like there's no way the fl is actually serious about, it.qnd that she's probably just pulling his leg

Manhwa and novel are almost the same. Most readers put themselves in the fls shoes and favor mls even tho there’s nothing wrong with the fl. I find that readers (mostly women) don’t have any grace towards female characters especially when they “hurt” the ml or if they don’t choose the ml at first.

I also think that in general people tend to not like stories where it's the fl who pursues the ml and prefer seeing mls grovel for forgiveness than the fls groveling for forgiveness. People seem to forget that shi yan has many times been mean to the fl and that she would have never tolerated him if it weren't for her motive. That's how he was even able to fall for her coz she always lets him have his way. If this was a story where the fl was genuinely chasing after shi yan,people wouldn't have liked shi yan as much since he's so cold to her.

I get that but in this case it’s quite different. Based from what I’ve seen in the comments here and in other sites, during their fight, they want Shuyi to chase, grovel and ask for Shi yan’s forgiveness which was insane to me because he knew that she had ulterior motives from the start. Both of them didn’t expect to fall in love and be hurt by it. I find that readers only want a ml to grovel if he purposely hurt the fl like Bjorn in The Problematic Prince or Bryce in the book Flipped. But if the ml is likeable, handsome and first to fall in love, just like here and another example would be Rudrik in Just the Male Lead’s Friend, readers tend to favor mls and be over critical of fls.

In shi yan's defense,hes more upset that her ulterior motive as to do with her ex than he is at using used.To him it probably felt like she used him to make her ex jealous,I don't think he would have been as upset if she was using him for money instead. But i feel the same way that it's a bit unfair that the entirety of the mamhwa is spent with shuyi having to always appease shi yan. Eventhough she did something wrong and should face the consequences, it does suck having to read her always putting her head down for shi yan. I think the reason why I'm more lenitent to shuyi is coz of the power imbalance in their relationship. He can so easily have her blacklisted and the only way she could stand up for herself is if shi yan lets her. Shi yan has acted mean to her before and has never once apologized,he instead teases her and she forgots abt it.

I recently read the novel as well and yeah she became too childish that I stopped reading the novel. We are almost on that part on the novel so I'm hoping they won't follow that pattern because they do made little changes here compared to the novel.

Ngl ...it's been so long that I can't remember well
But Nathan and Andrew were on some kind of relationship after they know each other on the plane...the "problem" was that Andrew is a "virgen" and never said anything cause was afraid of Nathan ending things if he discovered that...they do other staffs and when finally N knows everything he's gets angry with A for all the lies and "break up" with him saying he should do the things his own pace and shouldn't feel pressure to do things "for him" (actually a good advice!!) and something like he cannot be so dependent or something like that (again...a good advice!) and after A was following around uni he asked him to move on and forgets him