
I'd just like to point out that I start my initial statement saying that I wouldn't be justify my statement. so yes It was a "short quip" I only continued on as y'all put words in my mouth as if I was condoning a disgusting attempt at a rape WHICH I WAS not. as for everything else that you've written up to "along with the series" I didn't read so im not going to comment on it. Don't put words in the mouths of other people. you'll just wear yourself out arguing against someone who agrees with you and who you agree with over a point that NO ONE WAS MAKING but you

As I was explaining in my comment, the context of the situation is important. Consider this: If we're sitting around a bonfire about talking about how we like our dogs and you randomly chimed in "Yes, dogs are yummy" It would be awkward and if the darker context was more present, could make you seem like a terrible person. Do they relate? Sure, but you didn't give anything to indicate that wasn't what you were implying and then got mad at us for taking your comment at face value with the little context we were given. We don't know you and we're not gonna dig through your comments to see if you were pro raping people knocked out. You gotta be more mindful since there are people out there who actually believes that kind of shit. If you're gonna @ someone like this, maybe don't read half of their comment and call it good too? Makes you seem like a child.

You’re an entire fucking idiot who doesn’t understand the concept of consent. I hope you don’t do something truly heinous to someone with that logic one day. Don’t bother @ me cos I’m taking a leaf out of your book and won’t even glance at your idiotic response. You need less attention... from the world. Trash

So clearly everyone on here need a fucking lesson on what Consent is smh. if you think "silent/nonverbal consent" are a new thing. it's not. In this situation the creepy disgusting blond was completely wrong because as drunk as Param was there was no way he could consent to anything ( not that he would have wanted to even if he was sober). Main point here is through "nonverbal consent" is a thing and has been show here (Param with Han in the car to Han apartment ) It's aways best to get VERBAL consent BEFORE and DURING if you can get it in writing (text)

Lmfao, I will continue to give my opinion on this manghwa because of how much I fucking hate/love it at the same time. And I could give a rats ass at how many dislikes it gets because in all honesty the redhead is fucking ugly and I hate him the most. That being said, the art is fucking amazing and the story actually got me to feel things for each of the characters (even if it was hatred and a deep wish for their unhappiness). This was so well written and the author did an amazing job.

well that your choice lmao but he was the most changed one out of all of the , Haesoo was Indesecive until he rejected taku while Taku was manipulative until the end wanting to poses Haesoo instead of wishing him happiness but ended up finding a guy whose better for him, but if you still don't see that then you really don't understand the store ; >

It’s probably your irrational hatred. I don’t think T is ugly exactly, but my feeling for him ranges somewhere between revulsion and boredom. He has zero sex appeal to me, even though his features are kind of a mashup between those of J and H. Man kinda looks like Carol Burnett and those ugly sweaters and glasses aren’t helping.

Im not gonna praise Param here because this just goes to show what he did with Han wasn't a "fuck up" or a "mistake" it was a conscious choice. And I honestly dont think he should be forgiven so easily. I'm not proud of him for doing the basic thing of not cheating on Hwi again. There's nothing to praise here because the bar for him is already on the floor. All that happened here was that He made the decision not to fuck up again.

i don’t think that’s necessarily true, param holds no feelings for this person other than to find out his relationship. he didn’t know anything about him, unlike w mr. han. his rationality was blinded due to his many years of unrequited love, while he was able to keep calm since he is just one step away from being a stranger to hwi’s friend. also, he never cheated on anyone. he never said he was just going to be w hwi, all he felt was guilt for leading hwi on. but since they were never dating, it can’t be considered cheating

UMMMMM No we dont hate ukes who are freely sexual or at least I dont. if it was something he was going to feel guilty about doing then he shown have fucking done it and acted as if he was a victim to his free fucking will. Param could have fucked 20 other people and I would have cared if that was the type of person he was. but its not. it's clear to him that he can't go around fucking just anyone and that it has to be someone he cares about. with him realizing that and still making the decision to fuck Han even when at that point he had realized he wanted NOTHING to do with Han and was in love with HWI. that is why im upset with his decisions not cause he had sex but because he realized he's feelings and still did something that would hurt the person he was now claiming to love.

In other words, you slut shame. Good to know. You talk as if Param was 101 percent sure Hwi liked him which is patently untrue because Hwi never said shit. Just because we as the audience see it doesn't mean it's the same for the characters; that's the point of communication. You say he fucked up, can't deny it. He wasn't even mentally clear about the situation and was okay with having sex but so what? Hwi could have just as easily confessed and Param would have known. All I see here is some trash calling the bottom out for having sex with 2 different people he WASNT dating or anything and if that isn't slut shaming, I don't know what is. Check your biases at the door.

I mean like I said I haven't read the manhwa seriously yet but I'm pretty sure param was in love with han for a long time so even if he realised he didn't have feelings for him anymore you could say he was blinded by his past long time crush on him as it was still kinda fresh and did it even if he knew he'll regret it after like let's not forget he was still conflicted and had mixed feelings and sure leading hwi on and fucking someone else isn't that great but if he and hwi were in realtionship there'd be no excuse for what he did

Curious about this. I dont think Param was leading anyone on. Did Hwi explicitly say "go out with me" or "I like you" (genuinely question)? If not, this is why communication has to be clear. Just like issues of consent, anything that isn't clear is an automatic no. Unless Hwi was explicit, you can't just assume Param would know what Hwi means. We know because we are the audience but these characters are modeled after reality and in reality, we don't have an all knowing audience to tell us this stuff. Param was as much a victim of the situation as Hwi.

But didn't he realize AFTER doing the deed tho? He was in a pretty confused state when mr han made the move, he still thought he liked mr han. Imo he was too overwhelmed to even think about hurting hwi. Only after that he realized his true feelings, which is for hwi, and the guilt but what's done is done.

"Slut shame" ? Param was in no way a "slut" idk how you got that impression. I'm upset with that fact that he wasn't true to his own feelings and im not going to praise him now that he his. he also wasn't mentally clear in this situation where alcohol was involved where in the situation with Han I dont remember there being alcohol there. Hwi LITERALLY asked him on a date because of his feelings for Param instead of just the normal fucking that they were doing so Im sure a confession wasn't far behind. is you see trash calling have another look. what it sounds like to me is you coming up with bullshit allegations about something youre not even clear on yourself. but go off sis

No param knew his feeling the moment Hwi asked him on the Date. and idk what could be a more confused state than having alcohol in your system but if your gonna try to convince me that he could get out of the situation with Han if he wanted to it's not gonna work. It's not as if Han raped Param. he made that decision after finding out how shitty of a person Han really was, after realizing his feelings for Hwi, after coming to the realization that he didn't want to be with Han. and for that I can forgive him. I could have cared this much if the sex with Han was still because Param loved Han but that wasn't the case.

It's not about what Hwi didn't do. I dont understand how your gonna blame the actual victim here who actually go hurt. Hwi did ask Param out on a date. Param decided he wanted to Fuck Han before that even after learning how shitty of a person Han actually was and after realizing that he wasn't really in love with Han. Param was not a Victim he was the cause. and honestly as much as I hate Han I'm not gonna blame him either. This was all on Param

Lmao so you're saying you're pissed at Param for not being true to his feelings? Sure Jan. As if people were not creatures constantly conflicted by differing opinions at once. Asking Param on a date doesn't mean shit? You obviously can't tell what the essence of communication is and that is clarity. They fucked too. Can that mean they like each other? Of course not. Hwi should have be clear on what he meant by asking him on a date i.e. I like you. And slut shaming? That's on fucking you. You wrote "I'm not proud of him for doing the basic thing of not cheating on Hwi again" as if they were dating in the first place. You can only say he cheated if you consider him unfaithful to Hwi, i.e., they were exclusive. You weren't proud of him breaking exclusivity which is what cheating is, which is slut shaming. You think that Param and Hwi had to be exclusive. Why can't it be polyam? Why didn't you think maybe Han would be included? Cuz you assumed shit about their relationship.. Yeah, go off 'sister.'

It's not like people go on a date bcs they have feelings for the others all the times. Hell you can even go on dates as friends. What I mean by confused state was, he was still confused about his feelings for han, whether he still liked him or not. Imo he hadn't realized his feelings for hwi before he did it with han.

even if he knew hwi liked him that doesn't mean he can't fuck someone else ffs they were NOT in an exclusive relationship he was in a confused state with his feeling and still caught up with he crush/past crush what he did wasn't that surprising and you can't shame him about it so long he wasn't 100% sure about his feelings and in an officail relationship

Okay I'm not even gonna bother replying any further and anyone with a brain reading this thread will know why. Your only argument is literally "I consider them exclusive" even though the story itself contradicts it. You don't give a fuck about logic and don't care about how the characters are being portrayed as real, complex characters and cast judgment on anything your whims dictate. In my eyes, you're the exact same person that would argue, "you came out to meet me on this first date right? That means you're okay with dating me, having sex and all that. Oh? You want to say no? Too bad you slut." Bitch literally said, I see them as a couple and yall can't stop me, not even direct logic lmao. Donald Trump salutes you.

since when did saying that someone is a cheater=slut shaming.. if Param was a slut then I would have called him a slut but he's not. What he is though is a CHEATER. I'm not sure how else you want me to put that. and the fact that you can sit here and blame Hwi for this is just crazy to be but again GO OFF SIS. and lmao youre really stretching for a leg to stand on if you think any of these Characters wanted a "polygamous" relationship. Honestly if it was that type of story I would have loved it even more because I am polygamous and I would love the representation. that's not the case. I didn't assume anything I went base off the facts of the story.

even IF he knew param liked him that doesn't mean he can't fuck someone else he was confused about his feelings and still caught up with his crush/past crush and was NOT in an exclusive relationship so him fucking someone else them being his CRUSH isn't that surprising nor is it shameful so you can't say shit about him so long he wasn't 100% sure about his feelings and in a realtionship

Wow lmao wow you know I'm not even shocked at this I'm just feel sad for you.. like really be honest with yourself. if you'd be willing to forgive Param then more power to you as for me I wouldn't forgive him and I don't think that Hwi should either but clearly that's not up to me. Param doing the bare minimum by not fucking someone else behind Hwi back will never be something that I congratulate him for. He fucked up by fucking Han. He was 100% in the wrong for doing it and he even admits that he's in the wrong. how are you defending the choice of someone who couldn't even defend it himself.

You say, as you directly contradict the facts of the story.
Someone wrote "bro they weren't officially together you can't just deny that there wasn't a label on them"
And you respond "But that's what I'm doing sooo I'm not sure who you think is going to stop that."
Lmao whatever you say honey. What a tool. "Cheater?" Cant cheat if werent dating in the first place. Oh? They were going to go on a date? Ever heard of breaking it off after the first date? A date doesn't equal we together head of ass.

You callout everyone on this post for blaming Hwi and yet if you actually read the things we all said, no one ONCE put the blame on Hwi. We are just saying it's not as simple as saying Param was stupid which, YOU did. You're Jared 19, never learned to fucking read or use your brain for that matter. Come back when you actually know what a logically sound argument is.

its not hwis fault. It is nobodys fault. It is true that param hurt hwis feelings but the problem wasn´t having sex with other person? they were NOT in a relationship and they were NOT exclusive, so even if hwi felt bad because of that (which is normal) he cant just blame param. People can have sex with different people even if one of their fuck buddys asks them on a date, its obvious. and my comment about people being internally misogyinistic is because when semes do shit like this everyone is like "bad seme but i love youuUuuu!" but when ukes are freely sexual they slut shame the shit out of them, just because they are the receiving end on the sex??? i'm not saying you are like that, but many many people are, sadly.

We still at this, smh if you want to continue the personal attacks because you really aren’t intelligent enough to whole a conversation on the topic be my guess, I could give a rats as what you think of my personality after less an a day of talking to me, you wanna be rude and disrespectful I’ll give you that same energy.. I’m sure you’re not at that and a bag of chips yourself hun. I’m not on some high horse thinking I’m so fucking God. I put out my opinion you don’t agree fine good suck on someone else vagina and be happy, mine is tired of your dog breath.

Y'all .. I really wish I gave a fuck about their relationship lmao.. Like the fact that I hate them together made this whole chapter meaningless. and then next chapter I really won't give a fuck about because of how ugly that ring is.

Lmao, it's just a comment on fictional work all people do is say how good it is, and while thats true im gonna point out the things I hate because at least then someone might change my mind and get me to see it differently, but so far with this story everyone get butt hurt and but that's not gonna stop me
I know it's dumb but I still have hope that Daniel is alive somewhere
Askjdsfjk I’m so glad I’m not the only hopeless one