That was horrific
So basically he's being punished for "treating women like crap" but idk how much of that even makes sense.
One of the issues was that he kept getting his girlfriend pregnant, but he wasn't even ridiculed for having unprotected sex because the doctor also just does that, he was ridiculed for "cumming inside someone he doesn't even love" which is weird to me, because even if you don't fully ejac when inside, its still possible to cause pregnancy. And I don't like how it was a man's job to have to explain that to him, I feel like that's a conversation his gf should have had with him and that if that conversation went south, she needed to let him go.
The GF was actually obsessive and toxic so that's one of the biggest reasons I was kind of questioning if any of this "punishment" made sense
As far as we know the only the he did wrong was cheat on his past girlfriend and continued to finish inside his gf after she asked him not to (we assume, because it's not confirmed whether she even addressed that to him or not)
So yeah, he's a shitty guy but it just doesn't sit right with me that his punishment comes from a cheater and someone who also has casual unprotected sex.
Oh, and whatever body horror entity it was that kept ripping vulvas/vaginas into his flesh for nonsensical reasons
I was already crying but the extra chapter where Hikaru-B was saying he wished he could be human just so he could experience a hallucination of Tora's voice made me start sobbing
This feels like watching a trainwreck where you can't look away and every time you think it might be over the engine gets back up and does a backflip or something
So I definitely preferred the first story to the second and I think this is why
They framing of the seme's actions were completely different
Where in the first one the seme is obviously a psycho and his actions were not those of a sound individual, and it's not only us the readers identifying that but also the uke
The uke does succumb to the whims of the seme but it feels weirdly justified at the end (even though of course the seme's initial actions were unjustifiable)
But the second one, the Uke is portrayed as a emotionally vulnerable and almost depressing character, and the seme instead of approaching him with his earnest feelings, purposefully torments the uke in hopes of him acting out on his suppressed feelings. And what's worse is that this works, the Uke ends up feeling bad for the pain he caused the seme instead of the other way around.
In the first one it feels like even though the seme literally imprisoned the uke, he was always honest about his desires (as far as he understood them) and presented those honest feelings to the uke in word and deed, but the second seme is just the opposite - dishonest and purposefully harming the uke to achieve the end goal he wanted.
The first seme gave into the uke, letting him go (he did ofc made the choice to come back, but it definitely feels a little stolkholm-y), but the second seme had the uke give in to him, feel bad for him, and absolve his actions.
Neither is a healthy start to a relationship but this is just why I think the first one FEELS better than the second
I just really hate how when Hayami is saying no or refusing, he's practically treated like a child who's throwing a tantrum because he doesn't actually know what he wants or is good for him. Like, no, he wants to have a consensual sexual encounter that accommodates the desires of both parties, he's not a kid saying no to eating veggies.
And then there's Ryu who is a piece of shit and the one time he actually decides to use his words instead of just assaulting Hayami however he wants, he still has to literally PIN HAYAMI TO THE BED before he does.
Also, it's like they tried to do the trope where they portray a character as an awful or evil play boy who doesn't care about anyone's feelings, so we the audience don't sympathize with them as much. Except Hayami never did anything wrong as far as we know. He engaged in casual relationships but he appears to have prioritized his partners' experience and made sure they had a good time both on dates and in bed. He's shown to cut people off when they want more of a relationship, but that's his prerogative. Plus, it seems like he was very up front about how he's only interested in casual and surface level relationships, so it's not even like he was blindsiding or leading his partners on
nothing much to expect for artist who makes rape oneshots
EXACTLY! man, i was so annoyed the whole time. especially when he practically forced it on hayami a lot of times in the office, like?? it’s pretty obvious that hayami takes his job seriously and doing it to him at work it just the worst. it’s like he’s not taking hayami seriously even at his job. honestly naruse was so much respectful, they way he waited just for an answer and this dog here was saying “until you fall in love with me, i’ll make love to you” the fucc? excuse me? unbelievable.
your commentary is perfect.
Thank you Q.Q<3
I always feel kind of silly typing up paragraphs about comics like these but I also find it really fun so I do it anyways lol
But also they had like zero chemistry?
Maybe it's just me but there wasn't a single point where it felt like we were shown any moment of genuine feelings or chemistry between them, the author just told us they were falling in love but never showed it happening.
Also, what happened to Ryu being shy or socially awkward? That's how he first appears to both Hayami and the readers, but it was like "oh he's actually hot, so not shy or socially awkward anymore". I know he mentioned how he wears a suit for work so it'd make sense that he knows how to clean up and look presentable, but it's not just the clothes and hairstyle, how he carried himself was completely different from then on.
What I'm getting at is that it really felt like the shyness was all an act to manipulate Hayami into a vulnerable position where he could be taken advantage of
The Ryu we see from ch2 on is self confident, he's hot and he knows it, he knows what he wants and he takes it. That's not a change that occurs in one afternoon.
It could very well be that the writing is just poor in this regard, but it really makes the whole encounter feel more malicious.
Okay Dami pissed me tf off
He showed up and from day one was trying to insert himself into and break up their relationship, even when they were just friends which is just . . . Where does that kind of audacity come from??? He insists it's real love but he "fell in love" at first sight and instantly decided he could decide for Doha that Jun shouldn't be in his life or that he should be able to replace Jun. THIS WAS WHEN HE WAS STILL A COMPLETE STRANGER.
I know he didn't act super serious about it but it really just felt like Jun was always ganged up on and Doha never stood up for him and just laughed it off.
Most of it wasn't taken that seriously (but every offhanded comment trying to edge Jun out of the picture made my heart ache) but when Dami actually said a lot of out of line shit that actually hurt Jun, tanking his self esteem, he never really addressed or apologized for it properly.
I also wasn't a fan of the other friend who followed and outed them? For no reason?? And then acted like that was just his right to do so
Literally being like "my business is done here" once everything was out in the open, like the two of them were wrong for keeping a secret
And the idea that they had to be considerate of Dami just because he liked Doha, even tho it's not like Dami is a long time friend who liked Doha first (which is the only situation where i feel like that kind of consideration makes sense)
Jun and Doha had a long standing established relationship long before Dami even knew Doha, so I just don't understand why he or anyone else thinks he should have any say in their relationship, especially since he doesn't even act like a good friend as far as we can see
All we as the audience are shown is Dami talking about how he wants Doha's attention and wants Jun to fuck off, and obviously there has to be more to their friendship than that, because otherwise I really don't see why they'd interact with him at all . . .
But we the readers don't see any of that or anything or humanize Dami or make him likeable. Maybe his one sided crush is supposed to do that, but I just can't take it seriously when we aren't shown anything but his first encounter with Doha.
This is why Dami just felt like (to me) a nuisance at best and a toxic asshole at worst
I don't know, I can't understand why some readers seem to like him, so if someone with a different perspective could explain what they see in him to me, I'd actually really appreciate it <3
You said everything I wanted to say :'D
His only good quality is that he made our couple become official but holy sh*t... He talks like he knew Doha since they're wearing pampers...
He talks like he really loves Doha, no my dude, that's infatuation talking... If he was unconventionally attractive, can you still say the same when you two first met?
You're so right lol
I think it's really fitting and really satisfying that Nasia is a lesbian considering The Little Mermaid's historical gay-ness uvu
omg please elaborate
The author of the Little Mermaid is queer and he wrote that for his unrequited love for his close friend who got married to a woman I believe
Exactly this :>
My favorite part is how the little mermaid would dance for the prince despite the feeling of needles in the soles of her feet just to make him smile, just like how the author would do all he could to express his love through his actions and endured all his own pain in silence. That and how at the end when the prince married another woman, the mermaid was offered the opportunity to free herself and stab him, but she chose to spare him at the cost of her own life and she turned to seafoam.
Idk it really just speaks to me and reminds me of the feelings surrounding my first queer crush/relationship which is kinda cool