IDK- It seemed somewhat like they were trying to find their happiness out of what was otherwise a tragic situation for them. With only limited success. I was personally left with a feeling of a world and society that had left little room for personal feelings when it came to relationships and how it viewed people in general. A very harsh sort of world emotionally. All I can say is I'm glad this is just fiction.
Lately I really hate ov Manga because in a lot of them the omegas have no other choice! I personally think this "fandom" escalated really quick. It makes me feel more and more uneasy. I like your way of thinking about this!
"All I can say is I'm glad this is just fiction." Same, buddy, same.
Me too. At first, I thought It was pretty interesting.. but now after reading most ov manga out there, my opinion has changed. It is scary. Rape... is scary... Though there are a few ov manga that don't contain rape, but I say A FEW.... One rape story or two (mamy three or four XD) are fine but.. too much gang-rape or chase-rape
(Continue commenting.. damn.. my stupid carelessness)
..... is no good. I don't like when my babe uke is touched by other men than my babe seme ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Well these guys surely have unresolved issues. I do hope they manage to resolve them in a way not only keeps everybody out of jail but get them into bed with someone doing someone. With all that mutual attraction and desire it would be such a pity for them to have other things come between them. Besides its fiction so unlike RL I want and sort of expect given the medium that things will work out.
I will say that I am finding this cute. But I'm beginning to have a few minor issues. I wish by now to have some sort of explanation of the MC's unusual attraction. And I have mixed feelings about the MC being such an exaggerated spineless scaredycat. He seems, for all that he is a guy, to be the equivalent of the weak woman stereotype who's looking for her true love to rescue her and keep her safe from the big bad world. But despite this I can't help but be curious about where this is going, and hope that not only will some things get explained, but our MC will soon gain a backbone.
I just assumed he has severe anxiety based off of real life symptoms that I notice. But that's just speculation.
yeah i was thinking anxiety as well
Since I haven't looked at any raws my comments are going to stick to what has actually been scanlated. I know Hamura seemed unfeeling and self-centered, and yes he was a bit, but you could also say he was being rather realistic at the same time. How many long distance relationships survive if people can't see each other? Especially if they're just kids when life separates them? And how much does any teen really know about love? Isn't normally more often a case of attraction mixed up with whole idea of wanting and having a BF/GF? I'm not saying there's not exceptions to both, couples who manage to keep together despite distance, and teens who really do love. Hamura's attitude is more real and perhaps even honest (since it at least admits there might be problems ahead) than Jin's which is more ideal. However, Hamura is also insensitive to Jin's feelings, but to be fair he is only supposed to be a 17-18 yr old at this point. But personally I have a hard time imagining a kid of that age with Hamura's POV really being able to understand Jin's more idealistic POV, and the same for Jin understanding Hamura, until they're adults, which might mean they're likely to go separate ways when young from the get go.
I don't think so when you bring out the age as an excuse for being an asshole it's weak I mean at that age people know what they are doing, there's not excuse for their behavior if they are insensitive it's because they want and they are aware of that. Jin was wrong when he put his expectations on hamura without telling him why if it really was a mayor reason, But the way hamura answer was over the top and so rude I can't stand when people are jerks just because they can, besides what I suspect it's that hamura had never saw his relationship with Jin like a boyfriend to boyfriend relationship it seems like Jin did so so probably hamura broke Jin's heart more than once that's just speculative tough
First I'm not sure anyone is being an "asshole". The importance of age here is that they are both young and in high-school when all this happening and how they both understand what's going on. Jin clearly takes it much more seriously and sees long term perspectives, while Hamura doesn't believe it can last beyond them being separated after HS, so takes it less emotionally serious. I doubt either of them would have discussed it, but would both have assumed the other understood what each thought was a given. If Jin's heart was broken he half did it himself, as all Hamura has basically said is that he isn't sure what love is and that he doesn't believe in long distance relationships. But most 17 yr olds tend to be rather self-involved, paying more attention to themselves and their own feelings and not as much to those of others, even those they care about. At that age you often have to spell it out for them. When they grow older by just a few years they get over this phase. So yes, age matters.
So with this complicated plot it naturally meant one thing led to another, namely our main MCs going to bed. I know some people are upset over not seeing more of the deed itself, and personally I wish to see more too, but for shounen-ai which sometimes doesn't even have characters doing the deed just emoting and possibly an odd kiss, I'm not going to complain. But I wonder did those 2 cops disappear because they were on to something or because they were dirty? Somebody leaked Tang's real ID to Bai and who better than a cop.
EXACTLY. FINALLY someone who gets it. Also, great point you made at the end there. AWESOME!
Thank you very much! So nice to be appreciated. :D
On the one hand they actually sat down and COMMUNICATED! Amazing. BUT what was said was such nonsense if you read the preceding chapters. Ok, I get that older bro thought himself a total failure (who wouldn't with a mom saying that to you?) and mistakenly assumed his lil' bro felt the same. But why shouldn't he feel justified in that assumption when little bro kept calling him trash all the time since then? Is that what any of you do when you see someone you love going through a hard time, thinking they're failures, add to it by constantly trash talking them?
And don't get me started on the parents. I don't like how this is turning out to be all older bro's fault, despite that the fact that the the adults did nothing to correct the situation during all these years. If they really were so misunderstood surely they would have reached out to their son years ago, and let him know that they were sorry for what happened that day of the exam. Instead they never addressed the issue, just pretended it never happened and there wasn't a problem. Oh but mom could talk about it to lil' bro, except he wasn't the one with a problem. IDK- feels like a family conspiracy to convince itself that older bro was the one at fault, and now they're convincing him.
I really hate the moral of this story. That kids who may be the victims of bad parenting are just "misunderstanding" the situation. I would have liked it a whole lot better if for once the mangaka hadn't tried to make everyone nice and allowed the parents to be overachieving bad parents. I think that the moral that if you don't give up on yourself, even when those closest to you does, then you can still succeed is a powerful and important one. Besides I also think the fact that BOTH boys would become a success to be an important point. Meaning the reason parents like them are to be found is because a great many do have successful children.
I totally agree with this. Everyone in the family is selfish and cowardly for not facing the problem. Even the little brother who has all these feelings for the older brother thinks only of what he wants--attention, and resorts to hurting his older brother constantly for years. Everyone just turns a blind eye to how the older brother is living in self hate and self shame. Even at the end, the older brother still thinks everything is his fault. I also don't like how there has to be this blame going around, as if someone is at fault instead of just trying to move forward and improve the situation.
Whoops I just got whiplash from how fast this story changed direction. First, As several have pointed out the lil' bro clearly showed his love when he repeated insulted his older bro, yeah right! If he had at least been putting it "you're ACTING like trash" rather than "you ARE trash" etc. it would be a subtle but important difference, hinting that he knows his brother is capable of more.
Second, once again a case is being made for the poor misunderstood parent who didn't mean to be mean but was. Older bro just misunderstood her good intentions all along (yeah right again!). REALLY?? SHE was incapable during all these years of being able to sit down and not only apologize herself, tell him she loves him and was proud him no matter what? She just said nothing so what was he to think. And the explanation doesn't excuse her behavior anyway, as no matter how sick she was, she still wanted a perfect son to satisfy HER self-image and needs, so her hissy at his failure was all about her and her issues. So I think he understood quite fine.
Totally agree the mother should have been the adult and explained herself. I can tell how the ending is going to be and im not happy with it also even though you pointed out about the lil bro i still dont like him cuz he still called him a piece of a trash in this chapter. Ugh i just think the older brother is being mentally abused by everyone. But i love the art. The ending is just going to the older brother feeling sorry and bad and apologising i can totally see it. I dont like that ending i hope im wrong
(￣∇￣") Ah, I feel like I'd probably agree, if only I could remember everything that happened in the first chapter... It's been so long I only have a faint idea now... Be as it may, I'm not sure we can apply that "saying you're ACTING versus saying you ARE trash" logic unless you are sure you can apply it to the original Japanese text... I also wonder whether you can even say it in those 2 different ways in Japanese, making that subtle difference. Of course, I don't know Japanese not have I read the raw, so if you do, or if you have, then in that case don't mind me.
I'd think there would be in most languages a difference between being something and behaving like something. I can speak several, and in all there's an obvious difference. Of course I can't be certain if the translator made a mistake in translation, but I am paying them the compliment of assuming they knew their business and translated it as how it was originally meant until I have reason to believe otherwise. But I admit I don't remember every detail of the earlier chapters either and am too lazy to go back and look.
Actually I was saying if lil' bro had said that as it would be better, but as far as I know he didn't. But, yeah, it does look like older bro is somehow going to wind up being in the wrong for behaving badly and "misunderstanding" his poor family for so long. BAH HUMBUG!
Right. I just dont like the ending that will most probably happen.
This seems interesting. I like how the manga sympathetically portrayed that self-destructive side we all have when life suddenly takes a down turn. I hope though that the story isn't a sad one, but about how he eventually does pick himself up again, and perhaps discovers not only a greater talent but what really makes him happy.
Once again we have an unbelievably innocent, naive, not to mention ignorant uke. Hard to believe this guy is supposed be 22. He reminds me more of a shoujo MC (the never been kissed virgin 20+). So while I'm enjoying this, I admit I would probably have liked it a whole lot more if it had avoided the yaoi trope, and made him just a little more his age and aware, and less the cute and sweet dumb bunny.
Believe it or not, I have met many girls and two guys who are just like the uke. Its pretty much because they were sheltered by their parents. And were more focused on school than dating.
I believe you though I can't say I have ever met anyone like that. And I have traveled to some fairly religiously conservative countries. Even in those places where they were given a strict religious upbringing, I found older teens (16-17 yr olds) sometimes woefully ignorant of the most basic facts of life, but somehow by the early 20's they seemed to have learned quite a bit. Even about things such as homosexuality, and anything else, not that it meant they approved of it.
This is a story that had potential to be a bit more without losing that light cute touch. All it had to do was all have answer the question of Haruki's future and how Reo saw that. Was Haruki just going to be an omega bride to Reo's alpha as the story implies, or after all Haruki's years of hard work is he going to be having a professional career.
I think that's what really disappoints me about this story. It had the potential to be one of those stories in which an alpha and omega paired but chose to not only live as they would, but see themselves and each other as they would and not according to the labels society had attached to them. Which would have been a nice and satisfying turn in an otherwise lighthearted story. As it is I was left feeling like Reo never really cared about Haruki's ambitions in life, though he may care about Haruki, and that Reo primarily sees Haruki in the role of an omega for all his admiration.