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Ik, I mean ppl should rlly stop comparing every psychological yaoi to Killing Stalking ;-;

Right? It's annoying. Warehouse is better imo

Preach sis/bro. Imo Warehouse is better. Cause it's really on a psychological level. Sure Killing Stalking is psychological but to me it's more like the physical stuff that makes it psychological (the killings and all) but this and Hogu and the other yaois that I mentioned are more like on the MIND BREAK lvl. To me that's more psychological. I have friends who read Killing Stalking, and it's prolly the only psycho yaoi that they read and they act like theyre at the top of the fujo/fudan hierarchy that they pretty much created, and I just shut up and watch them while drinking hot tea. Not impressed lol.

I was looking at the rams but I couldn’t read them. They were in another language. I knew they got engaged, but I didn’t know he kept up the rues all the way up to the wedding day. That’s kinda assholish. Pore Ian. He deserves so much better.

I have said this before Ig. But Raymond's father was hanged before him, his mother also died. He lived to take revenge. Ian fell in love with him but do u expect him to dump his lifelong purpose because someone loves him? Yh he is selfish but is it wrong to do things that benefit u? He hasn't fallen in love with Ian but when he does he is ready to leave it all for him. How can u expect him to forget his revenge for someone he doesn't even love? If he didn't keep that up until then don't u think he would also have been executed or something. Not anyone can mess with powerful ppl. Idk how u percieved the raws or what but please think from seme's point of view too. Later on he tried so hard to find Ian and when he found out he fainted after crying. If u expect for someone to dump their lifelong revenge for their parents death, for something that's not even love yet, then its ur logic that's assholish.

Lmfao

Which is perfectly fine as an explanation but doesn’t excuse anything. Ian doesn’t have to be collateral damage for some guy’s unresolved daddy issues. It’s so bizarre to even suggest that. We know it’s for the purpose of the plot but just because Raymond “falls in love” eventually doesn’t make any less a terrible person for his actions, only justifies them to himself. If you’re content with that reasoning that’s fine, but if Ian had even a little more self respect and not the trauma attributed to abuse and neglect, I’m sure he would have walked away from the heartache and disrespect. The whole plot relies on two broken people accepting each other

Lol. Who is not respecting Ian? That's what I am saying it's two broken ppl not just one. Raymond told Ian right off the bat that he shouldn't have such feelings for him when they had sex back then. Its painful for Ian cause he likes Raymond not because Raymond is making it difficult for him. And that's what u ppl r misunderstanding. Raymond didn't hurt Ian cause he doesn't even like him yet. It's even more bizarre to suggest someone forgetting his lifelong revenge for something that not even like yet.

No on is disputing that. What they’re complaining about is Ian having to be emotionally harmed because of this. It’s besides the point if Raymond wants to get revenge, we know that’s his goal and Ian clearly played a part in it. What’s annoying is Raymond having full intention to achieve his goal but at the cost and manipulation of Ian’s feelings for him. Even if Raymond isn’t in love with Ian, Raymond knows full well Ian is in love with him. Making his actions cruel because he has this knowledge but obliviously isn’t going to make Ian privy to role in Raymond grand schemes. How is that showing any respect to Ian when Raymond is aware people have only ever used Ian and now he’s doing so as well but now with a conflict of interest as Raymond is more personally intwined with his pawn. And I bring up that they’re two broken people, because Ian is broken enough to have some idea of all of this unconsciously but is fine with all because knows no other way to demand otherwise. Raymond rescued Ian, Ian is completely devoted to his savior even at the emotional toll it has on him. Raymond obviously changes later in but you can’t deny this the arrangement of their relationship and again if were not for the circumstances of Ian’s meek personality and Raymond’s ruthlessness they’d never be together.

Haha, the first thing u said is wrong in itself. Raymond helped Ian that may be for any purpose. It wasn't Raymond's fault that Ian came to like him. Raymond is using Ian for his revenge but it's not like he is doing something bad to Ian. Raymond doesn't harm Ian and if anything helps him paint and overcome his past fears. He may be using him but he is always good to Ian. U say he is cold and ruthless but he has always been gentle towards Ian and that's why Ian came to like him. U r saying it like its Raymond's fault that Ian liked him. That's why I am saying u r not even trying to think of seme's point of view. He hasn't even done anything wrong yet. Lol.

Aahhh. Welp going to mute this now. No sense in “talking” to people who jump on the attack train for no reason. But thanks for the laughs.

Raws
https://tkor.lol/%EB%8C%80%EB%A6%AC%ED%99%94%EA%B0%80

Here’s the rest of the raws lol
https://m.manhuagui.com/comic/19778/

I read the Chinese raws and I think it's finished (ch. 70). The seme doesn't exactly having affairs with several women--at least not in a sexual way. He wasn't able to sleep with other women after sleeping with the uke the second time (when he was conscious, not drugged, and knew what was going on). Actually, he pretty much sleeps with only the uke everyday after that second time. The seme's family was framed and sentenced to death by hanging in front of his eyes when he was 8 years old, so getting revenge for his father has been his only reason to live. His family were lower nobles who were really good people and lived righteous lives. After his family was destroyed, he lost everything and felt that his hatred was all he had left (hatred and thirst for revenge became his everything/world). He was raised by his aunt/grandma (?) from his father's side of the family (the head maid in his house now), but because she was afraid he was so young and would be destroyed by his emotions, she taught him over and over that emotions were dangerous and unnecessary (get in the way of judgement etc.) and to not feel them. So he ended up living his whole life without being able to be genuine with anyone. He split people into those he could use and those he couldn't and gave those he could use whatever they wanted (e.g., money, "love"). He only has one friend in his life, but even then, he isn't able to be fully honest with him.

After getting to know the uke, he finds the uke difficult to understand and amazing because despite the horrible experiences the uke had, the uke could still paint such beautiful paintings (reflecting that the uke is still able to see the beauty in the world, while he could only see dirt and corruption). After admitting his feelings to himself (pretty quickly, around ch. 27?), he doesn't sleep with women anymore, although he continues to flirt with noble women to get information and connections from them for his revenge. The latest woman in chapter 40s is the 3rd princess of the monarch. As she falls in love with him at first sight, he proposes to marry her in order to gain a "noble" title and further his plans for revenge. The whole time, he admits to himself and to two others (his best/only friend and the uke's apprentice) that he loves the uke. But he also realizes the uke and him are two different types of people and he could never be like the uke who basically forgave the father of the Bardi family for using his artistic skills, and abusing and raping him. The reason he wasn't able the bring himself to utter the word "love" to the uke (although he could easily lie about love to others before) is because he knows he's not a good person, doesn't think of himself as worthy of happiness, and can't/doesn't know how to "love" the way that the uke paints (which is beautiful, dreamlike, idealistic).

The uke does leave after (servants in the house kidnap him and try to get rid of him, but he gets himself out from being sold off and chooses not to return), and the seme goes through a hard time in search of him. In the end, the seme gives up everything to be with the uke. It's all very sweet, but I kinda wish there was an epilogue or something T_T

Thanks for the link! (⌒▽⌒)

Wow thank you so much for that, that was great!

I was about to drop this when I read a spoiler about the seme being an asshole but thank goodness he really isn't thanks to you I knew it. Your spoiler is so detailed. (●'◡'●)ﾉ

He doesn't exactly want to marry that women. It's basically that women has a good social status which can give him power for taking his revenge.

Tbh the seme smashed( yh he literally made it into a paste) the dick of some bastard ( I won't disclose it) who raped Ian.

You should read carefully before assuming stuff and putting it online... other readers might get the wrong information.

And yes I read the raw, seme never sleep with any one else after he did with uke.

Yup, even when that women came to his house he was fooling around with the uke. It was good to see. But many ppl r saying they r dropping the manga because of anything others say

Yup! I was also about to drop this manhwa because of such wrong information that makes this manhwa looks so bad at all. But thank goodness I came across a comment that says a very detailed and right info about this manhwa.

yw!

np! I'm glad you didn't drop the this ^^

Yup. I have seen many ppl in the comment section say that seme is this seme is that. I mean is love a candy that since someone loves u, u r bound to love them. It takes time. Yh seme might be selfish but who isn't to strangers, but when he loves him, he does everything for the guy. When he realizes he can't be with anyone except him he returns to find him and even fainted after crying. Lol. The guy won't replace u for his lifelong purpose just because of some freakish thing. We can't expect him to sacrifice anything if he ain't deep in love. Haha

I actually felt the same when I read the raws, like I know he wants to take revenge and all that but man, he's taking advantage of the uke like a lot. Sure he gives the uke everything he needs or whatever but still, he's basically draining the uke of whatever happiness he have. Just because he wants to attain something, and yeah the seme is an actual motherfucker when he asked for the recent lady for marriage. I dunno, I just hope Henry can do some shit to help the Uke or maybe Nicholas .

I came back to redeem myself . Ive read the rest of the chapters and Id say, the seme sure did 180 there, he thrown everything away for the uke, like his years worth of plans to rise up, and his desperation to find him man, it shows how deeply he is inlove with him, I was actually worried in the last chapter when it shows like he was about to get married to the lady but damn those guns just went bam! So yeah, the seme yeeted out of there when the "revolution" happened (i think)

Yh it's good they got together in the end

It was clear that he wanted to take revenge and use that woman for that. (I even said "I dont care if it was for revenge" so it was obvious that he was fake dating) But I still couldnt stand it, Idk maybe for me if I were the uke, I would let him do his thing first before having a relationship with me, or as a seme, Id do my stuff first. Actually why would he date that woman if he has lots of money? It was obvious it was for something else. Also, before that lady he was about to marry, there were other minor women first who werent given importance at all, some sort of previews. And if u see the raws, he did continuously slept with the uke while "fake dating" the woman. And I didnt say he had sex with women tho. Dont get me wrong, the ending is perfect just that some things were wrong.

Scratch revenge and replace it with "climbing up the social ladder". The point is, when I wrote the topic, it was implied that the seme was using that girl for something else. The uke prolly didnt know (or knows) but ofc hes still hurt and the seme was prolly hurt too. And so why didnt they let things cool off first instead of deepening their scars by f*cking with misunderstanding (or being conflicted)? That's what I was saying when I was pissed off when they were doing continuously. The author meant it to be this was so I have no say on that, but I was just ranting based on what I feel.

And I apologize for making ppl drop it because of the topic. What I said was not untrue, its just that, I couldnt accept what the seme did, so I wrote it on a negative perspective. Anyhow, I (and the other person) provided the raws. You can read them ad double check. Thanks.

He continued to flirt with other minor women to get information and connections from them for his revenge, because his money is useless. For example, he flirts with the woman that the father of the Bardi family sleeps with so that he can get information on the Bardi family and their whereabouts in order to protect the uke from them (since he knows the uke goes into a panic attack just from seeing the Bardi family, especially the father who beat and raped him). He does this to protect the uke without the uke knowing about it. He tries his best to not let the uke (and readers) see such scenes too.

Without information and connections, the seme's money is useless. He also comforts the uke by mentioning this when he puts together the art exhibition for the uke. He tells the uke to not hold high hopes when people come see his work because they won't judge his works for what they really are. They judge the work based on his background (that he's a no name artist and is sponsored by a merchant, not a noble) and the opinions/influence of higher nobles. Thus, he got his connection, his only friend, to change the atmosphere at the exhibition by complimenting the artwork. This made everyone (lower nobles) start complimenting the uke's work. Of course, the Bardi family found out about the exhibition and came to ruin it shortly afterwards though by saying the art was the work of a second-rate copycat, making everyone immediately start saying bad things about the uke's work.

Around ch. 50 (?), the seme reveals his past and his plans to the uke too. When the uke asks him why he shared such important information and weakness with him, the seme said he was afraid the uke would hate him. Later, when the uke disappears and the seme finds him, the seme begs the uke (in tears) for forgiveness and for another chance. He tells the uke that he loves him and that he'd do whatever the uke wants (e.g., he would cancel his wedding to the princess, and if the uke wanted to stay at the commoner's workplace, then he would stay there and become a commoner too). But the uke rejects the seme, telling him that the seme can't give up on his revenge. As you know, the seme does give up everything for the uke anyway though lol

He continued to flirt with other minor women to get information and connections from them for his revenge, because his money is useless. For example, he flirts with the woman that the father of the Bardi family sleeps with so that he can get information on the Bardi family and their whereabouts in order to protect the uke from them (since he knows the uke goes into a panic attack just from seeing the Bardi family, especially the father who beat and raped him). He does this to protect the uke without the uke knowing about it. He tries his best to not let the uke (and readers) see such scenes too.

Without information and connections, the seme's money is useless. He also comforts the uke by mentioning this when he puts together the art exhibition for the uke. He tells the uke to not hold high hopes when people come see his work because they won't judge his works for what they really are. They judge the work based on his background (that he's a no name artist and is sponsored by a merchant, not a noble) and the opinions/influence of higher nobles. Thus, he got his connection, his only friend, to change the atmosphere at the exhibition by complimenting the artwork. This made everyone (lower nobles) start complimenting the uke's work. Of course, the Bardi family found out about the exhibition and came to ruin it shortly afterwards though by saying the art was the work of a second-rate copycat, making everyone immediately start saying bad things about the uke's work.

Around ch. 50 (?), he also reveals his past and his plans to the uke too. When the uke asks him why he shared such important information and weakness with the him, the seme said he was afraid the uke would hate him. Later, when the uke disappears and the seme finds him, the seme begs the uke (in tears) for forgiveness and for another chance. He tells the uke that he loves him and that he'd do whatever the uke wants (e.g., he would cancel his wedding to the princess, and if the uke wanted to stay at the commoner's workplace, then he would stay there and become a commoner too). But the uke rejects the seme, telling him that the seme can't give up on his revenge. As you know, the seme does give up everything for the uke anyway though lol