kyra 23 October 23, 2018 8:56 am

This is what fargo stated on twitter:
왜 저를 걱정하는 분들이 계시지ㅋㅋ 혜성이 욕먹는건 하루이틀 일이 아닌데ㅋㅋ 아 근데 도진이가 강제로 한건 아니거든요 그렇게 보이나? 키스는 멋대로 하긴 했지만ㅋㅋ 혜성이가 no 했으면 계속 했을리 없구요... 콘돔도 썼구요.. 별이 동생 안생깁니다ㅋㅋㅋ
Translated:
Fargo: why are there people who worried about me? Lol, it's been a while since Hyesung was criticized but Dojin didn't force Hyesung. Does it look like it? Though he forcibly kissed Hyesung. If Hyesung said NO, Dojin wouldn't keep doing. A condom was used so there won't be another child.

Me: leave Fargo alone...that sex scene was not rape. Especially if you just seen screen shots and didn't read the chapter in english yet. I would say it's more like unreleased sexual tension. They talked it out somewhat and had sex. Like Fargo said, Hyesung didn't stop Dojin advances verbal or physically. In fact, he squeezed his shirt, which can illustrate that he wanted Dojin. Y'all really got the nerve to bother Fargo with this"rape" scene. You all are acting like its chapter 18 forced sex. I swear, if y'all wrote the story the way y'all wanted to, it would be terrible. Let Fargo, draw and write the story. Nothing wrong with criticism but if you feel that the sex in chapter 39 was rape, how about you all go email/tweet all the countless other yaoi writers/illustrators such as Mingwa (BJ Alex) that their work has rape in it. Become an example and write/draw some yaoi. That would be great.

https://mobile.twitter.com/13_fargo/status/1054605002969309184

    Clouds October 23, 2018 10:41 am

    BJ Alex does receive criticism for the sex scenes and behaviour motivated from anger, jealousy and losing control. The author choose to write a scene, that many perceive as rape or just being too full on for what was respectful and needed, Hye-sung "squeezing his shirt" or not saying "no" and using a condom really doesn't detract from the criticisms made here. When Dojin raped Hye-sung and incapacitated him because he was upset that Hye-sung was trying to leave, tht rightly received a backlash too for not showing Hye-sung as a victim but instead this fickle young man. This rape scene for many will have been the last straw, as it basically showed no character growth and Dojin getting angry that he was rejected and going for Hye-sung's neck, was unjustifiable, when at this point he really needed to listen and behave like an affectionate partner if a credible development of their relationship is to be made. It is a problem that using non consensual sex, power imbalances and poor communication are basically the bread and butter for this genre, so obviously it does have a market, but that doesn't mean we all have to agree with such tropes.

    kyra 23 October 23, 2018 11:14 am
    BJ Alex does receive criticism for the sex scenes and behaviour motivated from anger, jealousy and losing control. The author choose to write a scene, that many perceive as rape or just being too full on for ... Clouds

    Well stop reading Yaoi. If that scene bothers you so much to the point the the author is debating deleting the chapter then stop read in it. I follow Mingwa on Twitter and no one has commented on Jiwon's many sexual assualts against DG. That scene in chapter 39 was not rape at all. I want people to get a defintion to what rape is. I bet the same people including you will be right back when chapter 40 is released. Stop reading Yaoi or protest all yaoi authors if that scene bothers you. Start a #me too movement for yaoi. Demand that every single yaoi/BL author that (Korean, Japanese, Chinese etc) follows those rules. See how that goes... I'm sick of people like y'all who continue to complain over and over instead of doing something about it. Don't use this site, don't pay for their work (even though majority doesn't). Do something other than bitching about it. You feel like you want to stop the tropes. Stop it then...
    Stop harassing this woman on Twitter.

    Clouds October 23, 2018 11:20 am
    Well stop reading Yaoi. If that scene bothers you so much to the point the the author is debating deleting the chapter then stop read in it. I follow Mingwa on Twitter and no one has commented on Jiwon's many s... kyra 23

    Erm what? What has a few comments criticising poor writing equate to "harassing the author on twitter"? The comment section should be a free space where people can discuss the concerns of certain tropes or if they feel the plot has just gone to pot because of their usage. Most of the sex scenes in this webtoon haven't been consensual, nor has there been any real character growth. Going to avoid being repetitive, as it ha been discussed already why this chapter was violent and just disappointing.

    kyra 23 October 23, 2018 11:25 am
    Erm what? What has a few comments criticising poor writing equate to "harassing the author on twitter"? The comment section should be a free space where people can discuss the concerns of certain tropes or if t... Clouds

    I said what I said and I meant it. This chapter was not violent, he grabbed his face and kissed him. You are pulling stuff from your ass.

    Clouds October 23, 2018 11:34 am
    I said what I said and I meant it. This chapter was not violent, he grabbed his face and kissed him. You are pulling stuff from your ass. kyra 23

    This isn't what happened though, you know it, we all know it. Hye-sung was saying that he hated Dojin. Dojin then went for Hye-sung's neck, which you can see startled Hye-sung. He then kissed him without consent, and as a means to assert dominance. Sexual assault. Hye-sung was trying to sleep after a traumatic day, returning to an environment he hadn't been to in months to someone he still hardly knows. They aren't in a relationship with each other, Hye-sung hasn't even said that he has ever loved Dojin, it's Dojin who is trying to force things with no consideration of Hye-sung. Holding someone's neck, because you are angry that they have rejected you is despicable for people to justify and it's alarming that it isn't being recognised as assault.

    Lucy In The Sky October 23, 2018 1:23 pm
    This isn't what happened though, you know it, we all know it. Hye-sung was saying that he hated Dojin. Dojin then went for Hye-sung's neck, which you can see startled Hye-sung. He then kissed him without cons... Clouds

    There's a 'log off' button at the top of this page. Use it ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Lucy In The Sky October 23, 2018 1:25 pm

    Also, I cannot believe this has gone to such an extent that people are actually trying to make the author change HER story. A new low for you. Congrats.

    Lucy In The Sky October 23, 2018 1:35 pm

    ALSO!

    Rape and assault are depicted in lots of media, books, novels, tv shows, and movies. There are tons of fictional sex scenes with heated tension, expressions and words. If this tamer scene bothers you so much, you might as well boycott and raise hell about everything else, become Amish and live in a very small village where the most controversial thing would be a group of migrating albino deer.

    Wanime October 23, 2018 8:53 pm

    This exactly how I read it. I can't believe all the grieve she is getting.

    Science Student. October 24, 2018 8:48 pm
    There's a 'log off' button at the top of this page. Use it ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Lucy In The Sky

    They can leave their opinions, that's why there is a comment section.

kyra 23 October 21, 2018 11:06 am

We're 47 chapters in and people are just now realizing that DG has thick eyebrows?
I find his eyebrows cute by the way. Not everyone can have perfect arched eyebrows and he wouldn't look right with them being thin. MD has thick eyebrows too.

    Tx October 21, 2018 11:07 am

    Yeah DG is adorable :3

    Dabi October 21, 2018 11:08 am

    I love DG’s and MD’s eyebrows. Thin eyebrows on a man have always looked strange to me...

kyra 23 October 20, 2018 10:57 am

Seems like Diesel doesn't want to hide anymore. He becomes sad because he can't be out in the open when he is in his human form like Bexan.
And he is a fanboy of Pablo...look how he is acting. So adorable

kyra 23 October 6, 2018 4:10 pm

At the beginning: Oh, I like Aki. He seems like an understanding guy. Pretty cool and I like his attitude and piercing. Seems like a guy I would date it real life. Cute
The last 3 chapters: wow, he's a user and an all around fuckboy.

kyra 23 September 30, 2018 1:36 pm

Oh Pablo...I like him already
Plus he has great fashion taste. The author really knows fashion. Pablo is wearing a Fendi (F print shirt) and Giuseppe high top shoes. The shoes alone are almost $1,000.

kyra 23 September 29, 2018 4:40 pm

So is no one gonna talk about Bexan's confused smile at the end?

kyra 23 September 24, 2018 9:13 am

It's really frustrating to see really bias comments here. I wish there were more people here who see the middle ground instead of seeing one side. Give Mingwa a chance to tell the story. She made her characters like this for a reason. It's also shown that DG and Jiwon are having some growth but people believe that they are still the same. Remember, this webtoon is supposed to be entertaining. If it isn't, maybe you should read something else.

    yukhui September 24, 2018 10:09 am

    Indeed. People are immediately quick to have a conclusion about her work when its not even finished. The plot is reaching its max and nobody knows what’s going to happen or how the two will react to each other, it’s much more entertaining than those cliche story’s about how everybody ends up all lovely and well and how you can predicate everything. Alex’s character will have an improvement but it’s not going to be fast, it will take some time and DG is the cause of his character improvement.

    maychan September 24, 2018 12:16 pm

    but in a way it does become a cliche story, the toxic couple will come back together, no matter what will happen.
    so can you really say it isn't the same has other yaoi cliche story's where the asshole Seme will always be forgiven?
    we will see I guess, but I doubt DG won't come back to his toxic partner.
    I give them crudit though for DG actually leaving him first and stop chasing after him, that was something I actually love and enjoy reading! but I"m sure it won't stay for long.

    kyra 23 September 24, 2018 1:50 pm
    but in a way it does become a cliche story, the toxic couple will come back together, no matter what will happen. so can you really say it isn't the same has other yaoi cliche story's where the asshole Seme wil... maychan

    Most Yaoi stories are cliche. All of these comments that I'm reading say how they wish the story would go would make it even more cliche. I really dislike when people try to predict a story. You're not Mingwa so stop saying that DG is going to return the way he was before. You can't say that until it happens. That's an insult to her work. And proves my point.

    yukhui September 24, 2018 2:45 pm
    but in a way it does become a cliche story, the toxic couple will come back together, no matter what will happen. so can you really say it isn't the same has other yaoi cliche story's where the asshole Seme wil... maychan

    I’m sorry but your logic is??? So in whatever manga or manhwa with a couple and one of them ends up with somebody that never got introduced and suddenly got added it’s not a cliche ? That doesn’t make sense. Then almost every story is a cliche. You have to understand that every story is about a couple, and you can’t just burst a new random character that takes over one of the main leads. It’s a different story when there was third lead in it. But in this case it isn’t. And yeah they come back together but with character improvement. Alex won’t be the Alex from the start. It’s boring if the seme is all perfect and shit from the start. < that is what we call cliche. You can easily predict what’s happening and how it will end or happen the whole story. It’s refreshing to see a character grow up and look back at his mistakes and reflect. If you want a new love interest for dg to appear well sorry but Alex definitely will be the one ending up with him

    maychan September 24, 2018 4:41 pm
    Most Yaoi stories are cliche. All of these comments that I'm reading say how they wish the story would go would make it even more cliche. I really dislike when people try to predict a story. You're not Mingwa ... kyra 23

    read the new english chapter, can you say he won't come back to him now? has I said, I did like DG left him and try to move on his life, but again, I doubt it would happen. that that kind of story this is, but I would be surpise for the better if he won't come back to his toxic partner ^^ I didn't predict anything, that only my guess cause I"m used to it.

    maychan September 24, 2018 4:56 pm
    I’m sorry but your logic is??? So in whatever manga or manhwa with a couple and one of them ends up with somebody that never got introduced and suddenly got added it’s not a cliche ? That doesn’t make sen... yukhui

    what are you talking about? the main couple - DG and Alex has a very toxic relationship and not healthy one, if you say they do have a healthy relationship, then you need help!
    my logic come from a lot of yaoi cliche that the toxic couple, no matter how much fuck up their "love" is will stay together until the very end, and it seem to come true here has well.
    there is a difference between a toxic or unhealthy couple and a healthy supporting one. in yaoi a lot of unhealthy couple's seen has "fine" and good to each other. so yeas there is a lot of cliche story's, sorry to tell you that. and no most of the time, the uke can't change a toxic partner, it a cliche too in love stories.
    no a cliche is an event or plot twist or anything really that autor's use all the time and abuse it to the point it lose it's meaning --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clich%C3%A9
    toxic couple that come back to each other is a cliche in yaoi, they fight and come back together - nothing new there!
    Alex is still an asshole, and until he didn't go to Psychological counseling or admit he did wrong by treat DG like a slave, then he have no right to come back to DG and not relisitc at all. want to know what is not cliche? people in yaoi that actually do go to Psychological counseling and admit their problams.
    by the way, Alex never EVER relfect on his mistaks or even admit he did any mistake at all. he just miss his DG, that's all he did, so from that point, he still a cliche Seme.
    the only thing that was refreshing here is DG the uke, finally leaving the abusive Seme on his own will, now that was refreshing. but it have no meaning if he will come back to him anyway.

    yukhui September 24, 2018 5:41 pm
    what are you talking about? the main couple - DG and Alex has a very toxic relationship and not healthy one, if you say they do have a healthy relationship, then you need help! my logic come from a lot of yaoi ... maychan

    I do know that. What I meant is how the story hasn’t even finished yet, the author still has her own plans to improve Alex. These counseling things and reflecting his mistakes hasn’t happened yet bc the story is still going on. I don’t understand how you are already concluding their relationship as toxic when it’s even the end, i clearly see that it’s toxic right now and I too wanted dg to leave him so that Alex finally realized dg’s real value. Alex still has many chances for improvement especially right now. But you’re not even giving him a chance? That is exactly why it’s interesting to see a toxic relationship grow to a healthy relationship. Mistakes are mistakes and people learn from it, Alex yet has to realize but I know that mingwa knows this and will make him better. Why are you acting as if their relationship isn’t going to get improvement

    yukhui September 24, 2018 5:41 pm
    I do know that. What I meant is how the story hasn’t even finished yet, the author still has her own plans to improve Alex. These counseling things and reflecting his mistakes hasn’t happened yet bc the sto... yukhui

    Not even*

    maychan September 24, 2018 11:08 pm
    I do know that. What I meant is how the story hasn’t even finished yet, the author still has her own plans to improve Alex. These counseling things and reflecting his mistakes hasn’t happened yet bc the sto... yukhui

    cause he had a big chance now to reflect on it when he was without DG, A BIG chance. and he didn't. not even a little, he didn't even admit he did anything wrong, only that it ALL DG fault.
    so it kind of a hit or miss. in this story it a big miss it's chance. but again, we see what happen. but has I said, if Alex didn't admit until now he did something wrong, I doubt he ever will. we wait and see ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

kyra 23 September 24, 2018 2:29 am

Eunho in color

kyra 23 August 30, 2018 5:28 am

Well, August 29th is DG's birthday according to Mingwa. So happy birthday!

kyra 23 August 28, 2018 2:47 am

I gotta feeling that the mysterious woman is Giji's biological mother...and she's a touch of crazy.

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