
yahwi is a rapist piece of shit and if you ship jooin and yahwi together that’s awful and i hate you :)
i will not accept any criticism because i am right.

girl read it again jooin did rape yahwi when he was drunk.. but he was unaware. im don bing nice to y’all too. it’s fucking annoying how y’all are picking sides already we’re not even half way through this we don’t know much about cain either. i get it you not fuking like yahwi so do i. but that doesn’t mean u need to go out criticising everyone who stand him. if someone likes yawhi leave them be. im not on any side both sides are dumb

i hate this stupid fucking argument because if anything yahwi raped jooin again. he has to coerce jooin into having sex with him again by reminding him that he had consented before so that’s not a valid fucking argument shut up
AND IM NOT PICKING SIDES FOR SHIT did i say anything ab cain? no bitch you put words in my mouth. i said yahwi is a piece of shit rapist because he is. i didn’t say a single thing about cain. if someone likes yahwi regardless of what he did to jooin theyre fucking sick in the head and i will not leave them be

YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HIM THATS SOMETHING THAT YOU MADE UP TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER ABOUT PPL WANTING TO SHIP JOOIN ANS YAHWI PLEASE SHUT UP
god we don’t know shit ab him he just a “potential stalker/controlling person” he’s just another character we know nothing about stop trying to make yourself feel better

listen i have an opinion and i get to express that,
because WHAT THE FUCK what was the entire point of introducing taku? there literally wasn’t one. haesoo has had multiple partners sexual or otherwise but it took taku for him to realize his love? like what the fuck?
this was so good at the start because i thought that haesoo would be able to break away from the toxic game of cat and mouse that he and jowoon had continued to play for the last TEN FUCKING YEARS.
also i’m a huge fan of allowing people to change and grow but all jowoon learned is that THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR ACTIONS?? ARE WE FUCKING 5 YEARS OLD THATS SUPPOSED TO BE ENOUGH CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT????
to end things off on a positive note, this author’s art is so beautiful and unmatched, but their storybuilding and characterization could use some work imo

Although I see you are not accepting criticism lol I'm disagreeing with you haha. Haesoo has always love Joowon and vice versa, from the very start. It so obvious that I can't understand how some people don't see this. Haesoo didn't realize he loves Joowon, he realizes it's hurting more than he thought to lose this part of him. They didn't break-up 1 year ago, it was a month ago.
The point of Taku is that he was the first partner he didn't use to hurt Joowon, he presented himself as a character who never asks questions and always seems to have an answer to the problems that Haesoo has been carrying for years (and that's not because he is a prince, he almost study him based on his stories). Haesoo took his offer and in the end, he grabbed him darling but he didn't fall in love and that's... Fine lol.
After breaking things with Joowon, he didn't want to use Taku again since he is no longer a stranger. Haesoo wanted to be by himself. Nonetheless, Taku became extremely desperate to be in a relationship with him since he wanted to be special, fill the void inside Haesoo and push Joowon aside, so he prioritizes his wishes over his supposedly loved one. Taku is no way near to be the answer to break away from the toxicity, they were basically forcing the relationship to work out like wtf.

And Joowon realizes more than he has to deal with the consequences of his problems: Joowon admits that he was a coward and that many of his motives were excuses. Joowon realizes that he was always selfish and probably wasn't there when Haesoo needed him. He showed that he doesn't hold a grudge against him and will support him correctly this time. Joowon acknowledges that he forced his selfish feelings on Haesoo and that he was stupid to think he would not leave, that he was wrong to blame someone for having doubts. Joowon condemns his self-centeredness and attitudes that I had during his relationship-- I mean, that's a lot.
(I admit that this season has been somewhat meh in comparison, but in my opinion, since the end of the second season I was already feeling the plot somewhat elongated with the stalker and marriage and another relationship blah blah blah. All alone. The End.)

WAIT I THOUGHT YOUR TAKU POINT WAS RIGHT BUT ITS ACTUALLY WRONG. AT FIRST HAESOO DID USE TAKU TO HIS ADVANTAGE IN ORDER TO PROVOKE JOWOON I WILL FIND RECEIPTS IN THE MORNING I LITERALLY EXPLICITLY REMEMBER THIS
i do agree they are forcing this relationship but i do believe that taku truly loves him. also even if haesoo “loved” jowoon and vice versa it wasn’t fucking healthy they would just manipulate and antagonize one another and it was fucking annoying to watch lol.
also, they were never in a real relationship just fuck buddies so they never officially “broke up” because they never went out together
this is why i am not taking criticism (sorry if i sound like a bitch i am purely joking i dont get into serious arguments ab fictional characters for real unless it’s like r*pe or something like that)

yeah but don’t we all learn there are consequences to every action when we’re like fucking 5 why tf did it take him 20 fucking years to learn that shit.
also agree this season was aggy as hell they all just need to break apart from one another or have a threesome both would be sexy. one would be sexy for their mental health and the other would be sexy in general

HAHAHAHA I LOVE THIS FREAKING COMMENT THIS COMMENT Double prize.
Yeah but... Joowon was never the mature guy who will lecture you about morals and peace for the world, he was a childish and traumatized dude who decided to be a jerk to protect himself. Like- Haesoo also had this tendency of avoiding the problem, both of them agreed with it so... Yikes. Let's not go there. It's night time.

WAIIIIIIT- THAT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS FEELING ALONE AND HE ALSO WAS HAVING FUN THAT HE SLEPT WITH OTHER DUDE WHILE TALKING SH!T ABOUT JOOWON BUT AT THE END HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. QUITE THE OPPOSITE, HE LIED TO HIM. I DO REMEMBER HAHAHA I was talking about afterward, Haesoo literally thought: "He said I can use him, so I got my fill"
I think Taku likes Haesoo, I don't think he loves him. Like- he doesn't even know? "I'm in love with you because you made me sad-" Ok, dude. With the other point, I agree that they were both equally insane, reason why they shouldn't go back. Since they were teenagers, Haesoo was the first one who admitted he liked to get Joowon made and jealous because he wanted to feel on top of the world with his reactions, and Joowon in the end grew a liking with this dynamic of not letting the other win to the point he made this a part of his personality. Ufff. They weren't fuck buddies, well Haesoo couldn't even tell what they were since it was so ambiguous:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_or_hate_yeongha/uu/d_chapter-2/pg-1/
In this season he still questions what they were.
And they were in love at some point. Haesoo thought about it even when he was leaving him: "I never told him that I loved him-" Makes sense since time and time again the story shows us that there was more with them than the unhealthy dynamic, Haesoo used to think they were everything to each other pls.
Hahaha don't worry, you don't sound like a bitch. We simply disagree, it's not that serious. At this point, I think we all want this to end to be free from this.

nah bc y’all are switching up way to fast for me yahwi is still a fucking rapist. i don’t care if he’s “treating jooin better now”. he’s still unapologetic about what he’s done and he’s still despicable. y’all continue to disappoint me.

Girl he was DRUNK—they made his face flushed for the first time and it clear that he had drank ALL the bottles in front of him. There’s no way he wasn’t drunk. Not to mention that they alluded to the fact that he went and got drunk on purpose for some reason. And even if he initiated it he literally could not consent so it was still rape on Jooins part

okay i went to review these chapters because I am all for holding characters accountable and won’t excuse their actions just because “i love them” but let me tell you right now you are REACHING.
firstly, jooin didn’t initiate any of that, there was no coercion either. if i had to say so it would be yahwi who had to coerce jooin again by using his past words against him.
this does not qualify as rape because yahwi was fully aware of his actions which is clearly displayed when he slaps jooin’s hand away. honestly it feels like you’re just looking for reasons to defend yahwi even if he’s a fucking rapist.
also, even if jooin did “rape” yahwi THAT DOESN’T MAKE ANYTHING YAHWI DID RIGHT.

First, lemme just preface this by saying that it absolutely does not justify Yahwi’s actions. I don’t like him at all, I was just pointing out that literally all the characters suck ass, and if you look at my original comment I say just that. The reason I commented is because it seems like you put a lot of love into Jooin when he’s just as bad as Yahwi.
Second, if you are drunk, you cannot consent period. There isn’t any argument about who initiated it or who didn’t because he was too drunk to be able to consent. Even if Yahwi remembered it and like slapped his hand away at that one point, that doesn’t suddenly give his ability to consent back, especially when you consider the emotional state he was in at the time. He cannot be held responsible for his actions at the time considering Jooin was the only one with a stable mind at the time
He def has more alcohol tolerance than Jooin, but he had drank like 5 cans of beer, an entire bottle of wine and was working through another bottle of wine on top of what looked like a bottle of whiskey. He was drunk. Jooin raped him.
Once again, I dislike all the characters enough that if in the next 2 chapters nothing happens I’m going to drop this, but it’s hypocritical and two faced to say that Yahwi wasn’t raped and Jooin was when they were under similar circumstances and thus should both be held to the same standards.

okay firstly, no i don’t hold a special love for jooin. but i’m saying this isn’t rape on jooin’s part because at this point he was already compliant regardless of whether he wanted it or not. yahwi had to justify jooin’s hesitation by using his own words against him. this is case is unclear bc neither parties were fully consenting
this is why i hate bl like these, also don’t sit there and say yahwi wasn’t responsible for his actions just because he was drunk he is still fully fucking responsible for his actions regardless of how drunk he is. this just isn’t rape. idk what else to say

You guys need to reevaluate what consent is? Yahwi couldn’t consent? He’s still a rapist piece of trash it’s rape if one party cannot consent and the other can? Once again, you can’t say he “wanted it” or was responsible for getting raped when he could not consent? I’m not justifying Yahwis actions, in fact, I’ve said multiple times I don’t like him. It’s just that y’all don’t keep the same energy with him? It literally does not matter who initiated it if one party was not in control of their actions while the other was

You guys need to reevaluate what consent is? Yahwi couldn’t consent? He’s still a rapist piece of trash it’s rape if one party cannot consent and the other can? Once again, you can’t say he “wanted it” or was responsible for getting raped when he could not consent? I’m not justifying Yahwis actions, in fact, I’ve said multiple times I don’t like him. It’s just that y’all don’t keep the same energy with him? It literally does not matter who initiated it if one party was not in control of their actions while the other was
Also I literally call everyone girl or like ma’am or sir lmao

that’s what i wanted to say i use girl ma’am and sir neutrally but i understand why people would not want to be called these things.
also, we’re not going to agree on this but personally, i don’t view what happened between the two of them in these chapters rape. if jooin acted in any way like yahwi or tried to take advantage of yahwi in any way than i would immediately blame him, i’m not trying to defend him i just think this rape claim is bs.
it’s just unfair as a whole and i think it’s bold for this to be claimed rape. this whole manhwa is making me mad tho.
i do hate yahwi and i don’t wanna hear shit from yahwi fans bc fuck that dude :)
also i am neutral towards cain rn bc he hasn’t done anything huge to make me start to hate him so stfu