... July 29, 2019 5:18 am

Can this NOT turn romantic? PLEASE! Can this story treat these actions realistically for once? Can we stop glorifying stalker behavior and harassment? Can we stop getting characters who don't take no for an answer? Persistence is one thing but unwillingness to let go of someone is another. Don't take the perspective of "oh, he's just trying really hard. He just loves him so much. Have pity on him, he just doesn't know how to express himself. If you love someone, you can't give up." No. Unacceptable. This story makes me super uncomfortable. Somehow, it's not like Killing Stalking. In there, there was an understanding that romance was the last thing on either of their minds. This one... the story is trying to make romance a focus and that's what makes me uncomfortable... ugh, I'm going to keep reading it because this is a super interesting story.

I just was ranting about how I was uncomfortable. Honestly, if there's romance, I'd be fine with that (sorta) but I want to see the stalker work for it. I want him to change his ways. I want there to be logical and reasonable explanations from him (the uke) to explain why he has potentially forgiven and fallen in love with his stalker...

At this point I am ready for anything... end of rant lol

    Just your ordinary fujoshi Bij July 29, 2019 5:40 am

    Lol so far this story haven't turn anywhere near romance. What's your point??

    yaoianimes July 29, 2019 7:21 am

    where and when was this ever romantic tho

    pepperspray July 29, 2019 10:49 am
    where and when was this ever romantic tho yaoianimes

    the raws and ending

    ... July 29, 2019 2:23 pm

    I want to explain to those who don't see what I see. Yes, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I know others also see what I do.

    I see patterns. There have been countless yaoi manga I have read in which this harassment and stalker behavior is rewarded. I have seen many manga where the seme is soooooo persistent and creepy but magically, the uke falls deeply in love after forgiving the seme. I have seen the look on the uke's face: he blushes sometimes. You don't blush in the circumstances the uke is in! I get a sense this is somewhat taking a romance turn or take because we are getting the view and perspective of the stalker! We are given his perspective to not only see how creepy he is; we are getting his perspective to pity him and side with him! (Who of you have given him the slightest sympathy? I unfortunately have) When you get a narrative from the stalker going "I love you so much, I've done everything in my power to get you. I don't know what more you want!" There are two sides to that! One: you get the sense that he's creepy. Two: you pity him, he is given a human side, he is not just a stalker, in fact he is just like the rest of us who often have hard crushes. The second point of view is dangerous and done on purpose. The second view is done so to make us sympathize with the stalker. We wouldn't need to sympathize with him unless he was going to develop into less of a creepy character and more to a "human and normal" one. I see patterns. I can predict that this is only one of the many stories that romanticizes bad behavior in the name of love and forgiveness.

    Sorry for those who don't agree with me but I see where this might be going. I'm not going to stop reading this. But a decade of reading yaoi has not made me blind to the romanticism of bad behavior. If you can read this story without noticing these patterns, good for you. I'm only here to rant and hope that this does not follow the legacy of its predecessors. I am prepared for anything, but let me hope the story stays unique and makes a unique ending instead of following the same and nonsensical romantic take on "persistent love" aka stalking.

    I know this is fictional and I don't need to take this seriously. I have no problem with the immoral events in the story. What I do have a problem with is that the ending of this really interesting story might be mediocre. I don't care about the morals of the story. I don't care there's rape or stalking in the story; that stuff doesn't faze me anymore, I've read worse. But what I do care about is the quality of the ending.

    yaoianimes July 29, 2019 6:09 pm
    the raws and ending pepperspray

    I don’t think that’s romantic that’s a sense of guilt tripping and stockholm syndrome. you have a weird way of defining “romance” it’s never been romance it just shows the stalker won and the victim left himself be broken through

    pepperspray July 30, 2019 7:07 am
    I don’t think that’s romantic that’s a sense of guilt tripping and stockholm syndrome. you have a weird way of defining “romance” it’s never been romance it just shows the stalker won and the victi... yaoianimes

    unless the actual captions differ from the art and im just misinterpreting things, the end literally shows the two meeting at a flower shop at the past, where the stalkers love blooms for him at that moment. flowers r usually symbolized with love and happiness, good vibes. u can clearly see the victim accepting it as well. idk, u can think its realistic but to me, its pretty unrealistic. i dont think Stockholm syndrome works that way. what..some creepy guy literally invades every inch of your privacy, rapes you.. and the protagonist reacts : "well im a nice guy so im not really gonna report him or anything" . i think the only realistic part was that he turned depressed, but the ending doesnt really reflect that. you cant say it doesnt show SOME hint of romanticizing, especially with the flashback-- otherwise, why would it be necessary?

    yaoianimes July 30, 2019 9:21 am
    unless the actual captions differ from the art and im just misinterpreting things, the end literally shows the two meeting at a flower shop at the past, where the stalkers love blooms for him at that moment. fl... pepperspray

    mmmm yes and no? I mean stockholm syndrome can be different for any victim so it’s unfair to umbrella it. I have very close friends who went through the same process the story has been going so i’m a bit offended you think your stance is something that’s accurate on this concept. it’s realistic. because it’s the head of the victim thinking “it’s all good now” the way an outsider sees the relationship is flowery since this stalker is so “loving and cares about this man” of course reality wise it isn’t happy, it shows that the stalker won through all that guilt tripping and crocodile tears the victim is entranced and feels like “this is love” it’s not romantic.


    also idk maybe actually read up some experiences and cases before claiming you know stolkholm syndrome? cause a good close friend went through this and it unfortunately ended as this manhwa did. idk man open your eyes and you’ll see more perspectives

    pepperspray July 31, 2019 12:35 am
    mmmm yes and no? I mean stockholm syndrome can be different for any victim so it’s unfair to umbrella it. I have very close friends who went through the same process the story has been going so i’m a bit of... yaoianimes

    When i mean Stockholm syndrome doesnt work that way, I mean that this entire story is unrealistic.

    pepperspray July 31, 2019 12:46 am
    mmmm yes and no? I mean stockholm syndrome can be different for any victim so it’s unfair to umbrella it. I have very close friends who went through the same process the story has been going so i’m a bit of... yaoianimes

    If youve had actual friends who had someone invade every single part of their life, take pictures of them, stalk them at work, figure out their pass to their house even when they changed it, have their stalker meet up with ANOTHER relatively weird man, i sincerely hope theyre actually out of that relationship.

    pepperspray July 31, 2019 1:15 am
    mmmm yes and no? I mean stockholm syndrome can be different for any victim so it’s unfair to umbrella it. I have very close friends who went through the same process the story has been going so i’m a bit of... yaoianimes

    And ill add my final point here, excuse me for so many replies. When I say this story is unrealistic, i mean that the majority of the stalker’s actions towards the victim are almost impossible to do unless you have some extreme IQ of a brain. Are you kidding me? Did he install a camera into the wall by drilling a hole, then covering it up (?????1?1) that the victim cant see? I would get if it was a two way mirror but.. what? The stalker KNEW the passcode that was changed? If you cant tell me thats exaggerating, i dont know what is. Two) yes, i have had a friend go through an abusive relationship and continue to enable the people (theres literally two who have had stalky behavior). But the thing is, these two boys are fucking INSANE. NO sympathy has gone towards them. Other than my friend who finds it difficult to reject them, NOTHING about the boys are romanticized. If the author didnt want to romanticize the story, why the heck did they add that flower shop scene. I dont know if its a flashback or a glimpse into the future, but you can clearly see that the two look happy. Theyre blushing. They kiss. I understand where you come from: ‘well thats the point of Stockholm syndrome! You feel guilt towards the stalker and eventually fall into their captive’. But nowhere in this manga do we see another panel of him evilly smirking, or some other side. Heres something more realistic: Harada’s “color recipe”. Here, we can clearly see a VERY unhealthy relationship, where the perpetrator is shown to be a manipulative and straight up crazy person. However, after showing us his ‘pure and forgiving side’, we are then given the glimpse of another side of him. The one that is crazy and manipulative, and evil smirk, the behind the scenes of that facade, whatever! Your excuse of ‘well everything is stockholm syndrome so the author is just trying to show the realism of it’ is too generic, because you can pretty much say ANY badly written or problematic story is just ‘trying to portray a realistic side of the perpetrators view’ .

    yaoianimes July 31, 2019 2:19 am
    If youve had actual friends who had someone invade every single part of their life, take pictures of them, stalk them at work, figure out their pass to their house even when they changed it, have their stalker ... pepperspray

    fortunately they are now thanks to support, but it’s not unrealistic these things do happen

    yaoianimes July 31, 2019 2:22 am
    And ill add my final point here, excuse me for so many replies. When I say this story is unrealistic, i mean that the majority of the stalker’s actions towards the victim are almost impossible to do unless yo... pepperspray

    yeah but what i’m saying is this happens so you can’t put a guarantee it’s 100% not realistic. you don’t need to write a whole weak essay fam, just open your eyes to see there’s a perspective and possibility to what this story is doing. Harada was realistic for sure, so is this one. everyone faces different situations and we shouldn’t belittle them if you gonna compare to realism. what’s unrealistic is if an author specializes and makes them bang every time to the point where the abuse seems like a fallacy and a sexual concept to them.

    pepperspray July 31, 2019 3:10 am
    yeah but what i’m saying is this happens so you can’t put a guarantee it’s 100% not realistic. you don’t need to write a whole weak essay fam, just open your eyes to see there’s a perspective and poss... yaoianimes

    I wrote a lot because I wanted to make my points clear, is it really necessary to call it weak lol. OP made a paragraph to their original topic that basically sums up everything I was thinking. And by the way, they basically bang at the end. Victim gets a blowjob xd Unrealistic storytelling belittles actual scenarios.

... July 20, 2019 6:24 pm

Wow. I've been following this story from the start. From the awkward meeting in Dong Gun's house, to their first (and scary) sexual encounter, to MD's smutty extras, to Jiwon finally admitting his feelings, to this last chapter. I've followed this story and waited for every chapter since the beginning. It has been more than 1.5 years, maybe even two? I'm a little sad it's ending but I'm also glad it has ended this way. I don't want it to end but all things must come to an end and I'm glad it ended well. I hope a new story can come from Mingwa that brings me just as much joy as BJ Alex. Thank you to all those who put in efforts to share this story to me. Thank you to the respectful and friendly community and fujoshis/fudanshis who has made reading this story enjoyable. Wow. I'm gonna miss the feeling of reading this story for the first time.

... July 20, 2019 12:19 am

I'm glad this story ended happily. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DIDN'T STILL CRY MY EYES OUT!

Ah, I'm so glad that we were able to see everyone happy in their futures. This story is one of the few that dealt with death and the fears but also acceptance of it. It had the innocence of children (yes, they were still kids!) But with a teenage romance shoujo spin. I remember a few years ago, debating whether to continue reading this after the first chapter. I was afraid of Kira-kun dying. But inversely, that emotion is similar to Kira-kun's. Having to accept death and take life head on is a beautiful message. I try to avoid manga with inevitable death of main characters like this; it often hits too hard. But I'm glad I kept following this story ♡♡♡

... July 14, 2019 6:13 pm

This is so adorable.
The way Jian Yi holds Zhang Xi's ear while they sleep.
The way He Tian calls him Little Mo/ Xiao Mo (which is kinda endearing).
The way He Tian sees Little Mo in the room and doesn't wake him up nor carry him out.
The way He Tian just quietly moves the furniture to sleep next to Little Mo.
The way He Tian shares the blanket with Little Mo but made sure to keep Little Mo covered, even if that means He Tian only gets a small part of the blanket.
The way He Tian crawls behind Little Mo, barely touching his back.
The way He Tian folds himself to fit nicely behind Little Mo.
The way He Tian makes himself smaller in that vulnerable moment when all other times he makes sure to portray himself to be larger and more dominant over Little Mo.
The way all four of them are sleeping in the same room together.
I'm dying here... (▰˘◡˘▰)

... July 12, 2019 10:48 am

So.......... he's not... lol

I totally thought they were the same person... bwahaha

And... that also means my secret theory is out... I thought the Director might have been a vampire but since the author shared a picture of him as a vampire, that means he's probably most definitely a human... okay... lol

... July 8, 2019 4:24 pm

I feel bad for both of them...

BUT WE FINALLY HAVE A BIT OF PLOT PROGRESS! LATELY, IT'S JUST BEEN SEX SEX SEX SEX. I DON'T MIND, BUT I WANT THERE TO BE SOME PLOT! It will be a hard process to accept what has been happening to both of them but at least the next chapters will be about moving the plot along rather than being in a repetitive (and almost boring at this point) cycle.

... July 7, 2019 2:21 am

I don't own a cat, nor have I ever but stories like this make me want to have the experience of loving a cat like that!!! But honestly, I'm scared of cats in real life lol. I freeze up around pretty much all animals within a 10 feet radius of me.

On the other hand, I've come to understand what it feels like to have a pet. They are not only a pet. They are also your companion, your safe haven, your family. They may see you just the same and even more than you think they ever do. My eyes are sweaty, y'all!!! When Fukumaru calls Kanda-san "Papa", my heart melts!

... July 6, 2019 8:14 pm

I wish my family were this cute lol. My family is almost the flip-flop version of theirs. We have 10 girls and 1 boy (it seems like a lot but when we're together, it always feels like someone is missing lol). And I tell the truth when I write this, my family was not cute when we were kids ahaha. I wish.

I love stories, especially yaois that include the family in the plot. To me, family is important and it's just more emotional and heartwarming when I see a happy romantic relationship and a happy family!

    Nah Nah July 7, 2019 12:35 am

    Wow! U have even more then me! I am the second youngest and i have 7 other siblings so 4 boys and 4 girls in total. I have to say I’m jealous of the story too since we siblings keep a certain distance especially when the age gap is big. We were totally not cute, always bullying each other lol

    Artemis July 7, 2019 1:03 am
    Wow! U have even more then me! I am the second youngest and i have 7 other siblings so 4 boys and 4 girls in total. I have to say I’m jealous of the story too since we siblings keep a certain distance especia... Nah Nah

    LMAO i can totally relate, i really did wish my family members were closer, nowadays everyone is always busy with work and school and other things and we all became distant. I have tried multiple times to bring the family together but they never seem to be able to make time for these family matters, and just reading this manga brought tears to my eyes because I believe every family should be like this, happy and loving and just full of joy. :)

    Nah Nah July 7, 2019 1:37 am
    LMAO i can totally relate, i really did wish my family members were closer, nowadays everyone is always busy with work and school and other things and we all became distant. I have tried multiple times to bring... Artemis

    Same! I was thinking to just make my own family lol just kidding

    ... July 7, 2019 1:40 am
    Wow! U have even more then me! I am the second youngest and i have 7 other siblings so 4 boys and 4 girls in total. I have to say I’m jealous of the story too since we siblings keep a certain distance especia... Nah Nah

    I kinda understand that. I am the youngest with the largest age gap compared to the rest of my siblings. It sometimes feels like a completely different generation lol. But we get along. I think that looking at other families always makes us think about what we have and what we lack. Tbh, isn't being one of the younger ones more fun though? (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    ... July 7, 2019 1:45 am
    LMAO i can totally relate, i really did wish my family members were closer, nowadays everyone is always busy with work and school and other things and we all became distant. I have tried multiple times to bring... Artemis

    I understand wanting to be closer with family, especially when you are all adults and have moved to different points in your life. Fortunately for my family (and my culture), it is acceptable for unmarried children to live with their parents even after they become adults. Thus! The majority of my family still live together so we always see each other. Maybe too often lol.

    And it may be hard when comparing your family to another, especially one that you perceive to be happier. But remember that each family, though one may face more hardships than another, can still be happy! We always hear and talk about family members that we don't want to see but thinking about family we miss can definitely be heartwarming! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Nah Nah July 7, 2019 2:01 am
    I kinda understand that. I am the youngest with the largest age gap compared to the rest of my siblings. It sometimes feels like a completely different generation lol. But we get along. I think that looking at ... ...

    Totally. Honestly the benefits of being spoiled is too good to pass on but being bullied by my older siblings is a minus tho lol

    ... July 7, 2019 2:25 am
    Totally. Honestly the benefits of being spoiled is too good to pass on but being bullied by my older siblings is a minus tho lol Nah Nah

    (´⊙ω⊙`)!Finally, someone gets it! Lol.

    Now that I'm an adult, I wonder how my older siblings figured out how to adult! I mean, I have trouble just calling the bank, nevermind raising younger siblings, doing homework, learning how to adult, then teaching the younger ones how to adult!

    Nah Nah July 7, 2019 2:42 am
    (´⊙ω⊙`)!Finally, someone gets it! Lol. Now that I'm an adult, I wonder how my older siblings figured out how to adult! I mean, I have trouble just calling the bank, nevermind raising younger siblings, d... ...

    Same! I’m like ‘what are taxes?’ The anxiety of not knowing anything since my older siblings take care of that stuff all the time

    ... July 7, 2019 3:14 am
    Same! I’m like ‘what are taxes?’ The anxiety of not knowing anything since my older siblings take care of that stuff all the time Nah Nah

    o(´^`)o yep yep yep. I want to stay forever 3 years old! 3 years old was my prime!

    Nah Nah July 7, 2019 5:31 am
    o(´^`)o yep yep yep. I want to stay forever 3 years old! 3 years old was my prime! ...

    I can’t even remember my 3 years old days but yeah, it must have been the prime of our lives lol

... July 6, 2019 1:32 pm

I was so excited to read this, I did it in the car drive to work! (I got dropped off, DRIVE SAFELY EVERYONE) I'm now suffering through motion sickness (╭╮).

But it was so worth it!!!

... July 5, 2019 7:15 pm

Wow... um... that was an intense update... whoooooo. I'm excited but also scared. Lol. Lots of sex (yum eye candy lol) but there is also an interesting plot coming on. I'm looking forward to this!

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