When she just stared blankly and said 'ok' I felt so called out.
Is it not shoujo-ai though?
He's a nice guy, and he took an interest in her before she lost the weight and became the belle of the ball.
It doesn't feel like he's a ml though. I think his issue is that he still thinks about the oriignal owner of the body as that person. So he's not really in love with the protag, he's in love with the original.
But I still feel bad that he's got the most genuine feelings in the manga so far and is going to get neglected. The duke just showed up when she was perfect and decided he liked her.
It's even better the second time through. I found myself stopping and scrolling back or flicking to the previous chapter to stare at the panels again. The art is so nice. The story is so nice. The FL is
Read it. Re-read it. Buy a chapter if you can. It's worth it.
The official version of the latest chapter is supposed to be out tomorrow on Tappytoon. I don't know where they're at with the Spanish versions but, while I can appreciate the effort and think it was nice of this person to upload, I have to put my vote into waiting for those releases. Considering how fast they come out, the quality, and the various elements, I don't think it benefits from the translation.
I mean we usually enter after the mc dies, but sometimes I really wish I could see some of the reactions or how things worked out.
Shuli wasn't really a bad person in the original I don't think. She was just still a child. Our Shuli here has the benefit of growing up. But that Shuli didn't.
It makes me curious about a lot of things in that original world.
Right. I'm out.
Equivocating homosexuality with abuse. I don't know if it's the authors fault or the translator's. I'd wager the authors.
You don't do that. You NEVER do that.
That is EXACTLY what saw my brothers killed. What still sees them killed today.
And before anyone starts trying to say 'oh it's not doing that, it's just saying that he was homosexual'. No. The author wrote that specifically. If they didn't think there was a correlation, they would never have mentioned his sexuality.
Well, the plot isn't exactly around that ancient prince that abused his brother and that was mentionned in one bubble and was a rumour from the past not the truth written in archive but well, if you're out, we'll still appreciate the story of our litlle girl here ╮(￣▽￣)╭
What are you talking about man?
'Well, being black, the prince wasted no time raping his white sister'?
You'd be fine with that right?
See in that situation, I'd also be out. One bubble or not.
You're right for calling it out. As a gay man, I noticed and didn't appreciate that line too. Its reeks of homophobia.
No, I won't be fine with that
It was just a stupid line, not even a fact and we don't even know what the author thinks, we're just making an assumption
And I like this story
Yeah. Lets all calm down and see how the plot is going aye? . Since we dunno if thats true or not. I hope you guys dunt drop this manhwa
Your right it had incest too but I wouldn't drop it though cause this story has nothing to do with that prince im sure they wont even talk abt him again.
I'm so glad someone else noticed that line!!! That line honestly put me into a bad mood ngl.. It was so homophobic
please stop making problems over everything, it’s not surrounded as main plot point, nor does it affect the story.
So you just said it's not ok if it's racist but it's ok because it's homophobic?
Exact same situation. One you've decided wouldn't be ok and one you've decided is ok. You would have exactly the same amount of doubt as to the author's intention.
Doesn't seem logical to me.
Then why was it included?
Since this is dragging. I'm capping this off and leaving.
If it was a part of a character, it wouldn't bug me. Homophobia can be a part of a character. It wasn't.
I think it's really funny that all I implied is that the authors view on homosexuality was not ok because people are still using that as an excuse to kill us to this very day, and people are all like 'it's only one irrelevant line'.
Racial slurs can be one word.
The author said a bad thing.
And I'm not the bad guy for saying the author said a bad thing.
The author is the bad guy for saying what they said.
If you think I'm the bad guy for saying that view is wrong, maybe you hold that view yourself. And maybe that's why I called it out in the first place.
Got no love in me for yet another default Ken doll ml who turns an interesting mc into a default Barbie fl.
I'd like to see how Ain grows up but that's the only interest I have in this.
Why hate the Duke for trying to change. Bad people can change too. Criticizing people who wanted to change or is changing for the good is just so narrow-minded. What. Never done bad things before?
Beside he grow up in that environment. Do you actually think a person who grew in a bad environment can do good things without anyone teaching them how to be good. Any person can be a villain specially those with bad parents. That's why parents are a major factor in a kids life. Psychology bro. Also, you can't expect to harvest peaches when you planted grapes.
Change? Did you read anything about change in what I wrote?
I hate that he's the generic, bullshit isekai ml, and that he turned the fl (who had potential), into the generic, bullshit isekai fl.
And separately (having nothing to do with this manga): change doesn't mean you are deserving or should expect forgiveness for the things you've done. It doesn't mean you are suddenly free of the consequences of your actions. You do something wrong, and a good person apologizes (a narcissist also apologizes if it gets them what they want, so watch out for that). If the person you are apologizing to is a good person, they will think seriously about whether what you're sorry for is something they can get past or not. Then they will answer you honestly. They will not give you the answer you want just because you want it.
Sometimes, that answer is 'fuck off'. And you get to live with that. Because the trouble or pain you caused from your actions doesn't get slurped up into the ether just because you apologize. There are things you can't be forgiven for. Things you shouldn't be forgiven for. Things that you may think you should be forgiven for or were no big deal - but the other person thinks differently. As the wronged party, they get to decide whether or not you've done damage beyond repair.
You're right. The person who was wronged can decide if you're forgiven. Was that person you? In this case, ain and fl was that person (and others) And if they decide to forgive him and be happy family. Why hate? It's not right to assume someone's feeling. Just because you think it can can't be forgiven, it still doesn't give you the right to criticize them if they wanted to change when you're not involved in the matter. You don't know there pain. Suddenly free from action? Of course not. He'll still feel guilty and regret but it doesn't mean he can't change or try to change. What. You want him to continue being a villain. Generic? Just because he developed interest to the fl. Gosh. Of course he would, the girl suddenly changed, it's suspicious too. She also showed him care, of course he too will care. If you really think about it ml is just like ain. He was ignored, abused, devoid of love. He raised ain just like how he was raised. No one told or showed him how it should be. You can't really expect him to be a good parent. About his dirty works, it's actually his job. You have to think the TIME, SETTING, POSITION of the character. I get that it's fiction but think about reality too. Don't push your ideal good and bad person. Life is cruel bro. It's not fairytale. it's not all rainbows and chocolate. You can't be a good person ALL THE TIME. You can hurt people intentionally or unintentionally. You can be hurt. You make mistakes. No one is with no sin. Certainly, you can't decide who can't be forgiven. Who can't change.
Just because YOU THINK they don't deserve it. Think about it. If you were to make mistake or hurt someone, does that mean you don't deserve to apologise, be forgiven (if they decide to), or have a life beyond that mistake. Are you supposed to wallow and focus on that mistake. Just wait for that person to forgive you, stuck in that forever. Then what.
Anyway, my point is don't judge people so easily. If you always judge then you'll unconsciously worry about being judge too. And DON'T decide who can't be forgiven unless you're the wronged one. Don't criticize people who wanted to change.
Really...
Of course I'll decide what can't be forgiven regardless of whether I'm the wronged party. A child rapist is unforgivable. Someone who tortures animals is unforgivable. All that means is that it's something I wouldn't consider forgivable. The wronged party gets to decide whether they forgive the person who harmed them, but they don't get to decide how everyone else judges them.
Choosing to change makes you exempt from none of that process. Your change affects only yourself. History also only matters to the person who seeks to change. The right to throw a punch ends at the other persons face. In other words, whatever led to your action, the action is in your control and so it's your reponsibility alone. Only bad people throw the responsibility for their actions on other people.
And, for the record, the duke is a piece of shit who doesn't deserve forgiveness. I'll remind you that he wasn't invited to her bed. She didn't want him there. He forced her. She didn't want him to be a dirty stalker, forcibly intruding on the little time she had with her son. He forced her. Knowing she was fearful and uncomfortable. He took pleasure in that. That's not the mark of a good person.
Despite that being my opinion on his character, it STILL has nothing to do with the reason I don't care about the duke. You keep insisting it does. I have cared about some good characters who are really awful people. Some who didn't even change and still did bad shit. This is a bad character who is also a really awful person. And he dragged down good characters and turned an uncommon story into a generic piece of shit.
Right now you're substituting what someone is saying for what you want them to say so you can fight a battle against things you don't fully understand.
It's not a good show of character, and one I don't have any patience for. I won't bother responding again.
Seriously, she's an adult. And I know it's hard to believe that matters when she looks young. But I want you to consider dwarfs. You don't think it's a little gross that you don't consider such people real adults?
How about 'littles'? Fully grown, consenting adults who roleplay juvenile behaviors with a caregiver dom?
Personally, I love this. I'm not a dwarf but I'm usually the shortest person in a room. The first person I dated was irresponsibly tall. So this is a nice throwback for me.
I have a relative that's like...4-foot-something.
She's not a dwarf but she is very, very short for a fully grown woman.
And like one of her laments is that growing up media made her feel like if she wasn't tall and busty, she wasn't a woman.
Ignore the yaoi tag.
This is cla-ssic Bara.
The reason why most people are finding the sex scenes boring is because they have no build-up or lead-out. 5 seconds after the mc gets horny they're fucking and 5 seconds later it's over and bye. Not uncommon for Bara, although usually the actual fucking part is longer. It's also super awful to have the cutout dicks when the webtoon is this sex-dominated. This is on Lezhin, do they have a censor dicks policy? Honestly have no idea why when they can control who reads it.
Personally, I'm enjoying it because the plot interests me. I want to know what's going to happen and where the kingdoms will end up. There's good signs that the mc will be a great father. And I'm also curious how the mc is going to handle things since he still doesn't know anything.
It could become more yaoi-like later since the mc and ml just met. But for now, you're probably going to find it jarring if you're not a fan of Bara.