My heart ya’ll I am not stable enough for the shit the author is pulling in the raws but damn I can’t stop reading
Spoil me please senpaiii
Please tell me the mother's coming back alive and that Theo is not gonna be drugged and raped by that shit bastard or something
okayyy DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU DONT WANT SPOILERS
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Seth comes back to fight with Theo and gets shot by the Prince who then tries to finish off Theo. Baby daddy ain’t having it so he barbecues the Prince and his army while the other Prince/older blonde guy??? Runs away back to the emperor. (Don’t worry mommy catches him on the way back because she’s doesn’t know where he thinks he’s going??? What a queen.) Seth is dying in his dragon form and Theo is crying because he’s like “are you too tired? You’re just gonna nap right?” Then the little baby bubbies (protective sprites) come in and do their little dancey dance and turn into Seth’s parents? So Theo hits the bargaining stage of grief at a speed run because he assumes these are angels coming to take his dead soulmate but instead mommy number two is like “do you remember me? I blessed yall being together when I was alive because I can see the future” and he’s like biiiiitch? Jump skip through a flashback and dragon Seth and Theo do a little goodbye because dragon is gone now, disintegrates.
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Don’t worry, Seth is alive. The dragon who inhabited him or spiritually carried onto him via bloodline gave its life to keep Seth alive just as the original dragon gave its life to keep the planet alive. The dragons love humans and tend to die for them. The chapter ends with Seth and Theo clinging to each other Notebook style and the emperor being confronted by mommy number one’s hot best friend and the SURPRISE hidden heir to the throne (hot blonde alert) they thought they killed off. It’s a coup! The emperor thought he was one step ahead but was three steps behind.
Hope this did it for you! Let me know if you have questions, I tried haha.
You're the best
Thank you ! I guess i can sleep in peace now
I wonder if her blood is a key component to neutralizing the poison in the family bloodline? I know they were always wondering what role she played and why she always survived, it must have something to do with her on a genetic level. Or maybe she remembered something from her past life medicinally/herbally that was the key.
I wonder if there’s more to the hyung’s reincarnation. I know in the beginning they mentioned more than just spirits, there’s ghosts and ghouls as well. His eyes are unique with the deep red inner ring and the way he ascended the throne with what could be considered an immense sacrifice of blood is interesting. I fully believe he was reincarnated with his memories intact which is why he’s subtly trying to dissuade the marriage from happening but knew they’d be together regardless. Excited to see how it plays out.
I keep reminding myself that the seme isn’t just a “villain” he’s a complex character. He’s mentioned how when he was younger he was thrown into the battlefield in a “kill or be killed”, “fight to the top” sort of situation where he works to weed out corruption on his own terms. But he needs power and influence (fear) behind him to enact change. I have no doubt once the story progresses we’ll see how the ukes family was either framed (seme may have had no knowledge or part in this) or rightfully caught up in something bad but obviously from the perspective of someone whose family was killed regardless of if they committed a treasonous or illegal act you’d look at the executioner as the enemy. But there’s always two sides to every story and the uke is what we call an unreliable narrator. This is all excluding the uke and semes personalities which I find slightly abysmal on both parts but we’re starting to see character development. This story is so slow going it feels like it hasn’t truly begun unraveling yet.
This is the most media literacy I've seen on this site in months
Yep. Which is why I love this story so much. The background politics and motivations is surprisingly more entertaining to me than the smut.
Right? I'm amazed. People read historical webtoon or stories and then expect everyone to not act like they are products of their time period.
That’s one of the things I hate the most about some readers.
Thank you haha I tend to read at 3 am and wax philosophical. But on a serious note, there’s a lot of people hating on the seme one sidedly in the comments so I was wondering if we were all reading the same manga lol
Yes, I LOVE a juicy plot and dynamic characters!
Genuinely, like we aren’t necessarily supposed to relate to it and they aren’t meant to do what we’d do if it’s historically accurate. If we were them, we’d probably be dead for some etiquette transgression haha
We'd definitely be dead. Korea of this time period had very strict class system. I actually find it very interesting and admirable that the ML was able to reach his station.
As for the MC it is totally possible that his family was either doing something wrong deliberately or just too powerful during a tumultuous time. It doesn't make it right but Emperors did this to Nobel families time to time when they grew too powerful. Infact the MC should be angry with the Emperor, if it hadn't been ML than it would have been someone else.
Moreover a nobel family like his has likely done all kinds of "problematic stuff" as well. For all we know his father might have led to other people's death and pain the way ML has led to his.
Maybe I've just watched too many Chinese historical dramas or read novels with this kind of setting because I just let the story unfold. Of course I feel for the characters but I try to see it for what it is rather than what I want it to be.
Half of these readers won't be able to watch shows like The Story of Minglan (highly recommend the show if you like historical settings. It has low melodrama, interesting and varied female characters and sympathetic but complicated MC and ML, one of the few historical pieces that feel realistic).
Man, I find it so refreshing when people have such an accurate take on their reading material. Comments like these should be pinned so every reader gets to see it and maybe deepen their own understanding of the story.
I agree +1000
Incredibly well said
Oh Thank you. Finding your comments in this cesspool was amazing for me as well. It's so nice to meet readers actually engaging with the story!
Thanks! And thank you for engaging in this discussion as well. It was so nice to read comments from like minded readers!
The white cat that SO flirts with (green and yellow eyes) is the defector/traitor (whatever classification the rebel systems went by) that the creator world god became alerted to originally. I believe they briefly mentioned rebels or something of that nature. You see it pop up in multiple worlds because it’s part of the bugs and a grander scheme of what’s happening I’m sure, they showed his humanoid form in one of the chapters though.
Wait, which chapter was it human?
If I remember correct ch114
It seems it wasn't, is it from the current arc?
I’m sorry I remember one chapter early, it’s on ch115 on page 3, and yes it’s from the current arc, although shown only briefly
Ohhhh, I'm impressed you actually managed to infer such a thing, considering that chapters come up once a week. I start forgetting the details
In this case it’s because I referenced my other comment and at the time I was really fixated in getting my evidence in.. although I do probably have a hyper fixated on stories to the point i sometimes dream about it
I do wonder if it only appears in the worldline that SO is in due to it knowing about what he is doing and knowing that he is being rather lenient in checking and keeping the world in line, and what they did can be seen as a disturbance in what the main cast is trying to do but it also helped in dragging the higher out of the way but is it just me or does the white cat seems kinda disappointed or annoyed? maybe like it predicted something like this will happen. Also wondering if SO knows about the white cat since he seems fond of it, though unlikely .....
No I think the whatever the white cat system is definitely is aware of SO but not vice versa, at least not for now. Remember, so originally wanted nothing to do with the white cat because “he doesn’t involve himself with the beings/cats in the settings” but thought the cat was cute. But I think it’s either part of the white cats camoflauge, prerogative, mission or something to be around them so hence here we are. But it keeps dragging the attention of the main creator system to our MC and ML being outliers as well.
Since it’s a hot topic, has the mangaka specifically mentioned anywhere that they don’t code couples to be switches? Because this couple gives me that vibe. Also, just because their ancient era selves may be one way doesn’t mean their modern era selves couldn’t be another. Because for one reason the ancient era version of themselves had children which the deity could birth and this modern boss could not hence taking away a potential need for him to be the bottom and allowing opportunity for enjoyment and exploration as a top. Or maybe both versions explored being switches as many couples do! It’s a story, we should be happy they leave room for interpretation
on fucking god, like everytime i read a chapter of this and i am all laughing then i check the comments arguing who is top or bottom and then my entire mood goes like wtf
like girl this story is hillarious, and thats all u could pick from it? talk abt fetishizing
But if your read again chapter 50.
When they talk about marriage
The deity ask sammuk "who'll have the pups?" And sammuk asked he will do it. Because the deity said he can't.
I already know the deity is a top from that line.
Sammuk was also a literal dog at one point so makes sense he’d know nothing about how conception works but remember they point out the tattoo on the deities body stands for how many children he has? Could also be a reference to being the carrier. Just saying if the author doesn’t explicitly state it it’s up to the readers interpretation and not something to argue about, it’s just a fun little read. I personally love the idea that they trust and love each other enough to explore pleasure beyond strict roles given to them by societal standards. :)
I really never thought about it until I got to the comments and then I was like oh, is it that deep? I was more into the gut wrenching angst haha
exactly
I really feel like Doha is going to end up being a final boss and/ or that Bada (who is having memory issues) originated in the game as an NPC who became self aware but has the storyline of BELIEVING they are stuck in a horror game.
nahhh ur literally a genius this would be top tier writing
So the fact that Matt did this to Jin made me just as wildly upset as everyone else but I’d like to just point something out that my psychologist says to me. “Just because we think about something or think about doing something doesn’t make us a bad person. Having the self control and awareness to know that we shouldn’t do it and the people around us don’t deserve to experience our internal turmoil is what separates us from the monsters we feel like.” (I call myself a monster a lot for context) So all the one sided Matt blaming… we gotta remember dude was drugged and had ZERO control of choosing what he got to show of himself. In real life yall defend rape victims for having alcohol in their systems because they aren’t able to consent so why is Matt any different bro is completely out of it. If roles were reversed I’d even wager yall would go hard defending babygirl Jin lol let’s just have some no bias here.
I completely agree with this comment! The fact that Matthew was drugged without his consent and was forced to think it was a dream because of it is what made him like this! Plus he was frustrated and angry because of the happenings and the stuff that dude said to him about Jin, please try to understand it in that way. He thought it was a dream ffs we know Matthew won't do that while sober.
"In real life yall defend rape victims for having alcohol in their systems because they aren’t able to consent " for this line your logic is flawed.
In real life situation people defend the rape victim because it's wrong to take advantage of drunk person first of all and the carelessness done by the victim getting them drunk result is that they got hurt themselve in this situation.
But if someone is drunk and do rape you, you will not take their side because they are not the one who get hurt . You will not going to defend them like oh it's ok you are drunk so I will not going to report you.The situation is totally different.
There is a difference If you are drunk and got yourself hurt while driving. And you are drunk but you got into accident which cause the other person death .
No, poor phrasing, so sorry! Thank you for pointing that out. My point wasn’t on general rape so I didn’t extrapolate enough. Rape is rape regardless. I was saying that anyone under the influence isn’t able to consent on either side. Just because Matt is the top doesn’t mean he’s able to consent to this or has the wherewithal to know whether what he’s doing is a dream or not. Jin mentions this multiple times. Doesn’t justify or excuse his actions but does explain them. And as we learn, he does in fact get hurt as a result of his actions. He’s anguished when he comes to. An actual rapist would not be remorseful and I would never defend one, I’m a fan of castration and these hands being caught. Also, he’s not behind the wheel of a car so I can’t really go toe to toe with you on that example because that’s not relevant to this story lol. The point is that substances affect inhibitions that’s a fact and while we can be blamed for the choices that led us there if we CHOSE to take those substances, being drugged in this particular case was not Matt’s fault. That was my point. I hope I’m making more sense!
Blamed was not the right word, I meant held accountable oh my gosh I’m not wording at the highest caliber today
Yeah I got your point about the drug situation that Mathew was in.
But his messed up thought even he drugged about his love interest is just crazy it's shows how negative feelings he holding until now that's more problematic . I know he will regret it after he become sober.
It's not about the top or bottom as both can force other in this type of situation but more about the control, as matthew is physical more powerful then Jin . Jin thought that he was strong enough to push matthew but situation got out of hand. And I just here for healthy discussion , don't take me wrong I am not attacking you about your comment.
No no! I didn’t think you were attacking at all I appreciated the discourse :)
And you’re right this is a super valid comment!
I’m gonna call him A because the names keep switching in the novel and the adaptation Arlock Alec who even knows what his name is but he has his freaking memories from the first life so he knew he’s encounter financial difficulties ahead of time so how did he let himself fall into financial ruin all over again that always bothered me when I read the novel. Because then K (Klopp Clough whatever the fuck) gets to lord over him with his stupid superiority complex and ego that only gets exacerbated when A becomes an Omega so I’m just like. Come on brethren. At least use your one advantage. Okay sorry rant over. I just want to root for A so bad and he makes it so hard.
Aeroc really sucks with money. It’s really a problem of kids who come from old money, you didn’t work for that money, so you don’t understand its value. Even his dad had his own financial advisor, the guy just retired after the dad died. So Aelock didn’t know how to manage it after. And honestly, he was so broken during season 1 I doubt he retained any information that could help him financially in this new life.
The goals are simple, don’t get involved with Klopp. He can look but it must be from a distance. The sitting arrangement made that clear. He did hirer someone else, unfortunately that financial advisor didn’t help. And everyone is probably telling him, why not hirer Klopp, he is really good at his job. So now, we are back at Klopp. So the goal now is, hirer Klopp but still keep a distance.
And Aelock was never interested in money. He likes spending it, but his not interested in managing it. It’s frustrating hahaha but if you’re not talented at something no matter how much you try, just pawn the work off. Aelock did just that. If he can pass that problem of managing to Klopp, all the better. It was a day of ridicule and he can do whatever he wants after Klopp leaves, he was living life, enjoying the company of fellow musicians, reading books and buying whatever. He did annoy Klopp, I’m not sure if it was intentional, but it was still funny.
It did get frustrating when Aeroc did turn into an omega and Klopp found out. But Aeroc was devious in some ways, the bridal training was like him getting back at Klopp. Og Klopp ridiculed his favorite books, so he purposely made Klopp read it all. And that smut he made Klopp read, I got mixed reactions from that ‘History of Suffering’ was basically book 1. I think he really wanted to get back at Klopp in small ways hahaha
So more mischievous than devious is what awroc sounds like
Yeah, mischievous is the right word not devious. Thank you! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
But Aelock is really more decent than Klopp. When Martha was hired in his estate, he didn’t do anything to antagonize her.
He could have used the imprint to get back at Klopp. He had every reason to make Klopp’s life a living hell, but instead he chose to move forward and be happy. And I think part of Aelock knows that this Klopp was different, but he did take the opportunity to be pampered hahaha. Love how he makes Klopp cook for him and so on!
I just don't like one thing is that Aeroc turns Omega in this one . Its like even nature is forcing him to be with Klopp . And to top it off Klopp finds it and uses it . So he has to be with him he just can't avoid can't run away can't say no. (TT)
Yeah, it feels like his trapped to be with Klopp. I know that the story wanted them to be together no matter what, but how it happen really sucks. I didn’t really like that he coerced Aelock into a relationship, I know Klopp makes up for it after, but the start really sucks.
Yep that coercion
I know Winter was just writing it according to how Klopp would react to finding out, making it clear that’s his the ultimate asshole. To show us that Klopp was really the problem but... It wouldn’t hurt to court Aelock!
We all know he really wanted Aelock from the start, but it was so horrible. I hated how he simply thought of marrying and having a baby with aelock was all that needed to happen. If you want a good relationship and marriage, there is more work asshole! Not just, will solve it along the way. Wth dudeeeee!
He did see his error, but he could have thought about it. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
(I’m replying en masse to all of you) You make sense, because so much was going on that it’s understandable that history would repeat itself to some extent. He wasn’t exactly skill building in his first life. It’s just like, I viewed it as a second chance so I thought “surely he’d think about all the ways he could make the best of this life including, avoiding K because that went terribly terribly wrong and was ABUSIVE” but hey what do I know I’m just the observer lol. But I agree with y'all that the most frustrating part of this particular arc was the forced Omega courtship (if you could call it that) because my god K just acts like a total tool (until the end) and basically calls A his property in different fonts I had to keep putting my phone down. Not to mention he takes over A’s entire life because “Omegas can’t have this and you’re mine now” like Jesus fucking Christ I’d dollywhop you sir. I’m getting heated all over again and it’s literally the new year I’m gonna stop thinking about this hahaha but thank ya’ll for the solid points!
He becomes omega again? Ugh man
I think he was really going to mutate… the doctor in v5 sort of explained it. Aelock mutates even in Klopp’s return. It’s really tough to explain with the rough google translation. But some people look like alphas or omegas but aren’t really one, some differentiate late in life.
Pretty sure the reason why Judith is possessed and Luca is on his second life cycle is because when all was said and done he had the opportunity to make a wish as the heir to Winterwald. If you went through life the way he did in the first cycle (unloved, ridiculed, heavy expectation and heavier failures, endless bloodshed, no one to trust) what would you wish for? I know I’d certainly not be thinking of materialistic ideals. I DO have a feeling anyone would ask to be given a life where they are happy and cared for. That sure seems like what the wish gave him with just one single transmigrator and the butterfly effect.