Yo the emperor needs to karate chop one of the guards holding him and then kick the other guards' nuts. While the disgraced General is astonished by the turn of events, the emperor should get a sword and stick it to the general's guts.
The Emperor needs to save the male lead for a change yo.
...but that's just my imagination.
I was going to read this, but seeing all the problematic stuff pointed out by the comments, I'll just pass.
There’s some Webtoons that get hate for some stuff but end up being good idk I just wouldn’t let bad comments get to you when it’s your liking not others :)
bro give this a try i rlly dont understand why they say this is bad its actually rlly good
All the women in this story are horrible.
Dana is the worse. Imagine being so spineless when you're pushed in a corner? And then suddenly she grows balls and kisses his ex WHILE SHE'S STILL MARRIED. Like damn girl, wait at least you divorce your husband. She sleeps with Moon knowing her 1st engagement was the next day? And then she gets engaged the 2nd time right after Moon was announced dead? That's one cold b*tch.
Solhwa at least stood her ground and said fuck it, I'm not gonna marry someone I don't love. But she's also not an inspiring character at all. Her coming from the future didn't help her one bit in her time as a reincarnated girl, she's not that smart too. The author of this webtoon portrays women in such a poor light. All the girls needs to be rescued or they're evil.
Grandma is fucking evil and all the girls she tortured are too weak, the story is set up so the men shine and take all the glory by saving them, freeing them, romancing them. DAFUQ.
And readers here are saying "YASSS WHAT A STRONG FEMALE LEAD" ....WHERE? A strong female lead is someone like Pauliana in the female knight and the emperor, or duchess chloe in 'the duchess 50 tea recipes', Canaria in 'Survive as the hero's wife', Shizuko in 'Sengoku Komachi Kurou Tan!'....
I'm just reading this trash to find out how it ends, but overall, I really hate how the women in this webtoon are portrayed... Objectified as drive for men to do their ends, with no dreams or goals of their own.
omg thanks for typing it all out. i swear this dana is freaking useless and despicable. i dont think she deserves anyone and especially not moon. so disappointed since i thought she was gonna be some strong female character. what the hell is her good points?? tell me. high key feel like dropping this right now cos of her. im also reading this just because i wanna know if the village chief dude is really gonna be stupid and used or is he gonna achieve his objectives after all his sacrifices.
She’s the freaking empress. Who’s to say none of them fought back her, anyway?
Dana was abused by her father. She would get beaten by him all the time. She feared him and did what he said. Abuse victims get controlled sometimes. That isn’t her fault.
preach. cold hearted bitch or what, she's a victim. you know not every victim is 'strong'. much more if you have been abused all your life. so as the cold hearted bitch mentioned by op, she can only get engaged after moon's death
Did you forget the time frame the story is portrayed in? Men did have all of the lime light and women were weak. Or more like if they did try to stand up against men they would be killed immediately. All of the women in this story have a strength in their own way ESPECIALLY Dana. She never forgot about Moon and always loved him but she thought that he was dead so she stopped fighting her father and got engaged because the reason she was fighting her father was no longer alive or well she thought that he wasn't anyway
If they try to stand up to men they would be killed immediately?
Ellin stood up to the King, she didn't get killed?
You're romanticising female denigration by branding 'weakness' as 'strength of their own'. Have you seen Dana the whole story? She never had any character development. At first it was okay to see her so weak and undecided, but to see her as the Empress and not maneuver that power into something useful for herself, her subjects, or even for a friend (Ellin), and instead cried herself to catatonia is really disappointing and normalizes women as weak beings who needed to be cared for.
There is no strength is silently loving a man but not showing it through actions. Ellin was able to break away from marrying someone she did not love, and faced a future of solitude because she believed in the man she loved. Dana on the other hand, does not believe Moon capable of things, that's why she keeps on dropping him when the situation becomes too much. Had she truly loved Moon, she would have asked him to bring her along to where he's migrating the night they had sex. Had she trusted Moon, she would have at least waited a few days to confirm if Moon was dead instead of getting engaged again. And no, if you truly loved someone you wouldn't even EASILY say yes to your father to marrying you off to someone because you are mourning the loss of a loved one, Dana could have pretended to be ill or ran away or even negotiated with her father before getting hitched again. Her actions even turned off Moon because Dana shows she is not a loyal partner.
You can romaticize Dana's wishy washy attitude all you want, but by doing so you are supporting a sexist view that women are weak, fickle, damsels in distress. And no, they do not get killed ASAP in the ancient times, you saw what happened to Ellin -she ain't dead.
Lmao no we are not supporting a sexist view that women are weak, fickle, damsels in distress. That is such bullshit.
All we’re doing is acknowledging that abuse victims can feel entrapped. My great-grandmother would get the shit beaten out of her by her husband. He once hit her so hard she went blind in one eye. She eventually got out, but I think she was damn brave for putting up with him as long as she did. Not everyone can get away, and that doesn’t mean they’re weak. You’re acting like it’s easy to get up and leave an abuser, and it’s not. It’s not sexist to acknowledge that victims can have trouble getting away. It’s so horrible to act like domestic abuse victims are weak for being unable to get away from their abusers. We’re not being sexist. I’d say the exact same thing of Dana was a man.
Did you read the webtoon properly? Dana was not abused ALL THE TIME, if she did, don't you think Moon would notice that while they were naked having sex seeing all her flesh?
If she was abused all the time, she wouldn't even have the freedom to sneak away and flirt with Moon at all.
The only time she was shown abused was the night of her wedding where her back was full of bruises. And whose to say it was not the empress dowager who did it instead of the father? And let's not forget, Dana herself admitted that she followed whatever her dad said because she was WEAK, not because she's abused or mentally scarred. She had the audacity to sneak away and get laid by his boyfriend in ancient times, and you call her an abuse victim who doesn't have any fault? Why do you think Moon said she's given up on Dana a long time ago then? Was it not because he knew Dana could have decided to do something else for love, but instead just went along with his Dad DESPITE Dana showing that she's capable of defying her father (sneaking out to flirt, midnight fuck, telling her Dad she's not marrying the first engagement guy?)
Make it make sense.
She doesn't even have any good points, aside from looking good. Moon is just a simp. That's the sad reality.
I also want to drop reading this trash novel (which had great potential initially), I wish someone would spoil me of the ending of who dies and whatnot so I could stop feeling agonizing sexism everytime I read an update from this webtoon.
People here in the comment section trying to justify Dana's weak, cheating ass of a woman. Calling Dana strong and shit, like it's strong to cry yourself from wedding night to present chapter... The bar is real low for that hoe.
It was her father. Her father did it to her. You are absolutely insane if you think her father didn’t do it to her, and who’s to say Moon didn’t see her scars?
Abuse victims sometimes blame themselves, but it’s not her fault. She stood up to her father sometimes, but that doesn’t mean she could stand up to literally every single thing. I’m not saying she’s perfect of hasn’t done a single thing wrong like you’re implying. She has. But you’re acting like she’s a weak or something and are slut shaming her.
Moon had every right to give up on Dana. She couldn’t fight for him in the end because her father controlled her entire life. He is by no means forced to put up with that shit. Just because she was abused doesn’t mean he has to put up with her giving up on him. He has every right to leave. In the end, he “died”, she realized it was her father’s intention. The man she loved died, and she basically gave up on life. To say this story is sexist is absolute bullshit.
Keep telling yourself that, hope it makes sense with your first comment.
You are low key sickening. There are no spoilers. The story is ongoing. Just drop it if you’re gonna act like this and think it’s trash.
Like seriously, you’re grossing me out with your misogynistic bullshit.
Dana doesn't live with her father when she became an empress candidate though? How can you NOT get away from the abuser, when you're literally AWAY from the abuser the entire 'empress selection' time?
Make it make sense.
Because if she leaves she still has to put up with him? She’s still under his grasp even when she’s away from him? Go complain to the author and tell her that her work is sexist if you really think so. Give feedback to her or stop reading the story.
@okarisu thanks for blocking me so I can't reply to your hate diarrhea.
You are low key a hoe apologist. So it's okay for Dana to have sex with Moon and get engaged the next day without telling him? It's okay for Dana to kiss a man who isn't his loyal husband?
That's a cheater and you're saying it's okay cause it's romantic? Eww, have some respect for proper women portrayal.
I fucking didn’t say it’s romantic you fucking misogynistic asshole.
You have fucking homophobic shit on your list and you have the nerve to talk about proper portrayal in the media.
Pffft.... Homophobic? Giiiirl, are you blind? I read homo mangas, hetero mangas, doujinshi and webtoons... Now that you can't properly defend Dana's character, you try to find dirt about me to discredit my honest opinion? You're pathetic.
Yeah, you read a genre that exists for women to fetishize men. That’s not homophobic at all.
I’m not even fucking trying to say Dana by did nothing wrong. I’m saying she’s an abuse victim and not every single one of her actions was wrong and that you’re dismissing all victims who stay and do what their abusers say by calling them weak.
THANK YOU!!! this story has beautiful art but the FL are so terribly written...
Like Solhwa did nothing to help further the plot or even help this country at all. She did everything for HERSELF. She did not care for the suffering countries one bit.
Literally she could have made some real changes during this turbulent time with knowledge from the future but does not use it at all.
Dana is also irritating too causing so much trouble with these two brothers. Literally Moon was going to let her go, the King treated her with well and never forced her to do anything.. she sleeps with a guy knowing she has a fiance and kisses another guy while MARRIED. shes not spinless shes SELFISH!!
anyways thanks for typing out my exact thoughts
Not even saying this story has no sexism, tbh.
So is Dana a cheater or not? Can't even acknowledge it.
Being an abuse victim doesn't soften her cheating.
You're up in here sending hate diarrhea just because we have disagreeing opinions and you resort to calling me names and accusing me of shit because you can't take an opposing opinion? Go find a thread that agrees with your viewpoint, you're not even able to respond to my questions properly and blocked me so you can't have replies on your wrong comments.
Again, your actions are pathetic.
ryu, I don't mean to butt in here but u are absolutely correct this okarisu person is truly out of line.
Your opinion is something that makes sense bc this story has aspects that are LACKING with its characters. I have no idea why that person would go into your lists and 1) make assumptions/judgements 2) accuse you of things out of no where
You are so right about not excusing victims of their actions. Dana is selfish point blank period.
Just wanted to drop by and say its completely crazy what u are going through for a comment thats completely right.
Yes! That's the right term, she's not spineless she's selfish!
And the 2 brothers don't even have problems with each other, they seem like decent people despite their horrible past, and here comes selfish Dana telling Moon to kiss her and that she'll divorce his loyal husband. What the clownery is that. I'd feel offended for the King if I were Moon, that's my brother right there you're throwing away just for some ex you first threw away.
One of the worse characters ever written for a romantic novel!
I’m looking for the part where I said she didn’t do anything wrong. I have a problem that you’re being shit to abuse victims, not that you have a problem with Dana. You are accusing the author of writing misogynistic shit but god forbid I say you’re the one with sexism issues.
I genuinely apologize if I’ve said anything super hurtful (my opinion on yaoi is by no means exclusive to you, nor was my comment intended exclusively for you) cuz I honestly can’t remember half of what I wrote given how sick out of it I am right now. I didn’t block you cuz I didn’t want you responding to my comments. I blocked you because I thought I wouldn’t see this anymore. I will avoid writing comments half conscious in the future.
I know right? I don't go around here in mangago sending hate replies and calling people names because we disagree on some points.
Some people just think they can say whatever insults they want online to someone because they're anonymous. And to think this Okarisu person is personally insulting me for a piece of cartoon art.
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That’s not why I’m insulting you, and I’m sorry if you thought it was an insult. I literally thought you were insulting someone else which is why I got angry.
This is also a subject that is close to my heart.
Just because a subject is close to your heart, doesn't excuse your poor behavior online.
Anyone can have a subject close to their heart and not call people names and defamatory things just to prove a point.
ok im butting in again this is the last time lol @okarisu No worries about writing comments/opinions that you believe in! I can see how some comments are being misinterpreted, but its the accusation parts towards ryu that kind of riled me up.
I get being heated up, the comment space is for everyone, I can see your perspective too on the generalization of abuse victims and their actions.. but it gets blurry when a plot and reality align too closely. Thank you for having an open mind and still continuing the convo. To be clear I am NOT trying to sway you from your opinions either or trying to change them. They aren't wrong.
Just hoping to draw some boundaries between the commenter and the story itself.
you guys should read this at webnovel.com because the color is more vivid and the quality of the webtoon is better, kind of like this one in mangago is at 240p and the one at webnovel.com is 720p.
Also, a lot of the words here are cut but if you read it at webnovel.com, everything is complete without the words getting cut in half in some dialogues.
I always have to go to toonily website to get the latest chapters. mangago always leaves out 1 chapter that toonily has.
I suggest you guys also check this manga from there too.
do you have alink ?
i heard somewhere that the uploaders usually would upload the latest chapter, 1 or 2 weeks after its release so that the author could still earn money
type toonily.net and you can search from there.
I don't think so, the uploads in toonily coincide with mangago, except for one chapter. For example, if toonily updates chapter 1 to 10, then mangago uploads the same day for chapters 1-9, leaving one chapter missing, but they have a same day upload of mass chapters.
I couldnt find it D:<"" sorry
your loss
I'm kinda annoyed at the romance tbh.
Not because I hate Cha Hae In, but because I like a strong independent female character like Pauliana in the female knight & the emperor. But this romance in this webtoon isn't rubbing me off the right way, like, Cha Hae In was given an advantage because Beru isn't fighting in his 100% power, and instead of accepting the power difference with dignity, she goes off to keep on fighting which is kinda lame because she looks like a damsel in distress what with the MC intervening in the fight so she doesn't get seriously hurt.
Where's my strong female lead?? To me, this chapter shows that she's no smart, independent woman, because there are more OP characters out here who are handling her with kid gloves because she doesn't know when to stop. Like, definition of women being portrayed as delicate beings that don't know their limits.
Not hating on Cha Hae In, to be clear, I hated how she's portrayed here like she's a man chaser who would go to stupid lengths just to be with a man she's attracted to. This portrayal of a woman is just cringy.
Yas queen (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Oh yass
Is this possibly a case of stockholm syndrome?
I think it's great that Nakyum isn't mentally and emotionally being bothered anymore, but I wish he just ups and run away and try a little bit of living in the streets selling paintings, so he can have a little more character grit, before Seungho finds him and then try to confront him with his feelings. But oh well, I'll have to wait and see.
idk... to me it just looks like Nakyum has given up bc of his last interaction with his teacher. therefor, he has gone to seungho for some “stability”
I get what you mean, it seems like he resigned himself as a 'whore' after Inhun called him one, a self fulfilling prophecy if you will.
But I'm wondering if it could also be stockholm syndrome after Nakyum masturbates and thinks of Seungho instead of Inhun, even Nakyum is questioning himself. I can't really resolve the idea that he suddenly catches feelings for Seungho when all the past instances, Nakyum is terrorized with fear from interacting with Seungho, and to suddenly flip the coin from fear/anger to lust/love... Kind of made me wonder if it's a case of stockholm syndrome instead. But this is just a curiosity I'm entertaining, not yet sure if it's a fact.
wow, the author really fleshed out the seme pretty well.
I thought this manhwa was going to be an angst-filled drama (which I like tbh) with cliche plotline, but it turns out we, readers, are given a piece by piece reflection of who the seme is and why he acts that way.
Everyone's action weren't condemned by the author by painting them in a certain light that would make us readers think 'oh this person is so bad' ...I even feel sorry for the blonde step brother, his character is a dick but I don't hate him because his behavior is relatable -very humane.
I like this manhwa so far. Dynamic characters and simple plotline with complicated backstories.
AHH!! Sorry I met to put to put
there seems to be an original Korean novel by the same title and no one has translated it in English yet. I hope someone picks it up and translates it cause I'm dying to read (either by manhwa or novel) about what's gonna happen next.
same here! do you have the link to them on their original site?
I hope the emperor doesn't force himself although it seems like that is how this is going to be.
I'm vibing with his "I'm not Wonje" schtick, but if he pulls this clownery then he's definitely just the same as Wonje. And all that character build up would have been for nothing.
He needs to calm down and beat the meat solo.
Btw, the uke's feet (forgot his name) being uneven with the other being small makes me sad. It means his past life experiences have physical effects on his next one. Maybe that's why he has a weak constitution? Because of all the aphrodisiac overdose from his past life?
I hope the present emperor learns a thing or two about patience and kindness.