Can ya'll stop the bitching already?
No one is glorifying anything. No one is reading this and going "OMG RAPE IS SO COOL ALSKDAS I WANT TO RAPE SOMEONE LIKE THIS!!" If anything, those of you who take this shit too seriously are the sus ones. If you can't keep your fiction apart from your non-fiction then we need to have a talk lol
Finally someone with more than 2 brain cells on this website
It's just weird that they can't keep the two apart for me. Like, I've read all sorts of shit since I was younger and I never once thought this way? It's fictional. It's a fantasy. No one is being harmed and if it's triggering then just don't read it?
It's like when people go into fandoms and bitch about people shipping certain characters or drawing certain scenarios that don't fit within their morally tight guidelines. Don't step into someone else's house and bitch about how they decorate or how they choose to live if it's not hurting anyone lol If you don't like it-- leave.
You drop this
I absolutely agree with you. Funny thing is it didn't use to be that way when I first became a yaoi fan (a decade ago) . It's in the recent years that people become this toxic. For example up until a couple of years ago no one cares if you shipped celebrities and you get death threats if you so much mention that someone looks cute with someone else they aren't dating or doesn't fit their type. Like wtf people should mind their own damn business and stfu.
To jump to the uke's defense because for some reason ya'll have this "UwU cinnamon roll uke" mentality lol They were both in the wrong but let's not forget that Naruse was warned about Yanagi and even had a prior entanglement with him before Asumi came and saved his ass the second time. He's acting like an ignorant child thinking "oh he couldn't be after me! I'm a single parent and those are undesirable!" yet he gets felt up not once but TWICE after getting intoxicated AND THEN HAS THE BALLS TO SAY HIS LOVER LOOKS LIKE THE GUY THAT LITERALLY WAS LIKE "YEAH I WOULDN'T MIND BONING HIM EVEN IF HE HAD A LOVER AND IT WAS SEXUAL ASSAULT."
Ya'll some blind ass, dumb ass, head empty ass people on here lol Asumi needs to control his temper but I don't blame him for lashing out after Naruse deliberately keeps getting himself into trouble WITH THE SAME GUY HE KEEPS WARNING HIM ABOUT.
Couldn’t of said it better myself
You don't blame someone that they RAPED someone they love because they were angry? For real?
Naruse is whole grown adult man. His only "mistake" was being naive and gullible. Asumi didn't have any right to what he did. It's starting to get ridiculous.
If the rape thing was still an issue Naruse woulda addressed it by now. If anything Asumi still feels like shit about what he did which is why initially he wasn't trying to be too obsessive/controlling of Naruse's life DESPITE knowing that Yanagi could spell trouble.
And yeah, Naruse is a whole ass adult WHICH CONFUSES ME AS TO WHY HE ONCE AGAIN GOT HIMSELF INTO A SITUATION WHERE HE COULD BE RAPED. If Asumi and his friend hadn't stepped in Yanagi woulda gotten his ass whether or not he consented. NARUSE KNEW YANAGI WAS TROUBLE but proceeded to be a naive GROWN ASS MAN and decided to go drinking with him ALONE.
If I was in Asumi's shoes I woulda left Naruse after that second time. If he's gonna be all "they don't see me that way" DESPITE BEING MOLESTED/FELT UP TWICE WHILE INTOXICATED then he's just being an inconsiderate idiot at that point. That'd be like me going "huh this guy/girl felt me up the last time we were together despite me telling them I'm not interested... HOW ABOUT WE THROW IN EVEN MORE ALCOHOL AND BE ALONE TOGETHER THIS TIME." At that point I have no one to blame but myself and I sure as hell wouldn't get mad at anyone who would get onto my ass for being such a dipshit despite the warning signs.
Asumi did what he did 'cause Naruse lied to him, didn't listen to him, SAID YANAGI AND ASUMI LOOK ALIKE (WHICH BTW IS A HUGE FUCKIN' NO-NO) AND THEN PROCEEDED TO ACT ALL HURT EVEN THO HE'S THE ONE WHO TRAMPLED ALL OVER ASUMI'S FEELINGS. Asumi backed off after that 'cause he knew it was only to get worse if they didn't cool their heads. He could've been more persistent and more possessive but he didn't. Yeah, he fucked up and nothing excuses rape but to say Naruse is completely innocent in all this is sheer stupidity.
I'm just tired of people shoving all the blame onto the seme AND WATCH. SEVERAL CHAPTERS LATER ASUMI WILL REDEEM HIMSELF AND PEOPLE WILL BE LIKE "OMG THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS PERFECT <3 THE SEME IS SUCH AN IDEAL PARTNER" lol Shit gets on my nerves and I know I should keep my ass outta the comment section 'cause I get a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle too heated over fictional romance lol
Lol ya'll can eat my whole asshole on this. I'm tired of ya'll being so goddamned biased and blind to shit when it comes to BL/yaoi. It's never the uke's fault no matter how much of a saint or piece of shit the seme is. The seme could literally do nothing wrong the entire series and then mess up one time 'CAUSE THE UKE KEPT PUSHING BUTTONS OR SCREWING SHIT UP and it'd STILL be the seme's fault. Gtfo my face with that shit lol
Not me, I never forgive rapists ;3
First calm down.
Secondly "Asumi did what he did 'cause" you are literally excusing rapist. No there is no BECAUSE.
He should have left him if he doesn't agree with Naruse's lifestyle whatever. Nothing excuse rape.
Firstly he raped him, then changed to fingers because Naruse was crying it hurts and then he stopped because he has been KICKED forcefully.
Nothing. Literally nothing excuse rape.
Being naive is not a crime. Being rape can cost you a life sentence.
So now maybe Naruse should ask permission to do anything and if not Asumi will rape him? Smh.
"If the rape thing was still an issue Naruse woulda addressed it by now" & oh you know it's the old poor writting and normalisation of rape in yaoi. Nothing new.
Naruse's character is also poorly written but it's clearly shown he is very naive and gullible person. Also lol you should feel SAFE in civilised world. No one has a right to take advantage of you. What's more he was deceived in getting more drunk.
Was he acting too naive and irresponsible? Yes. But it's nothing in comparison to Asumi's actions.
Oh poor semes. Their bottoms were pushed so he just raped someone. Poor baby boys.
or not but this manga is making no goddamn sense anymore lol
I love it so I keep reading but like-- there's points where I feel like the chapters are jumbled up and nothing makes any sense. I'm used to long running manga series but I don't remember ever being this confused reading Elektel Delusion or Hidoku Shinaide or even Given after only 7 chapters.
I've read both lol I've been reading since the first chapter dropped but it just feels like it's increasingly not making any sense anymore.
Yes, this one definitely feels more chaotic and less clear in focus than the original. I trust the creator knows where it's headed and am now just going along for the ride, but it's not one where the plot and purpose feels as tight and refined as some.
if he's that adamant about the whole "single father" look for some reason. He could just tell Yanagi straight up "there's no one special but I'm also not looking for anyone. I really don't want to date or be in a relationship." lol
Also, why couldn't he have just heeded Asumi's warning to be more on guard around Yanagi? He's already put his hands on you once and got in your personal space and you are STILL gonna go drinking with him? I swear most of these ukes are dumb af. //sighs
Sorry I meant to agree
lol you gucci. I fat thumb the like/dislike all the time x'D
But that first lil spat Toya and Kazu had was totally on Kazu. He didn't voice his insecurities and literally told Toya to his face "you can sleep with women if you want to" despite the fact that Toya had told him his feelings lol All that just 'cause he let Ono get under his skin. He trampled on Toya's pride and heart. I also feel like their second spat was partially Kazu's fault as well 'cause let's be honest-- if I caught the person I was dating hanging around someone who had caused us grief in the past I would be upset as well. Toya coulda handled it better but he was being influenced by his little brother AND the fact that Kazu was around someone he told him to be wary of AND was being comforted by that same person. Of course there was going to be a misunderstanding lol Them getting mad and throwing fits over it wasn't going to resolve anything.
It's easy to point fingers and place blame when it comes to fiction but if you put yourself in that scenario it becomes a totally different matter.
I said the same thing. Toya has acted stupid but Toya also has been carrying Kazu emotionally this whole manga while Kazu has not been communicating, he also lied and then let the YOUNGER brother bully him, he didnt stand up for himself or their relationship and Toya is the one always being direct, communicating and chasing after him. Kazu is kind of annoying and kinda weak.
THANK YOU LOL
Like, I always get so upset when one of them is like "if you want you can have sex with other people." You are trampling all over the other person's feelings when you say shit like that. AND TO ADD you are also saying that you are not good enough for them even tho they have clearly chosen you over everyone else. They love you with all their heart and you wanna step on that not once but TWICE with a single sentence.
And the thing with the younger brother as well. Toya TOLD him to speak up if Yuta was causing issues but he insisted on not saying anything. Instead, he runs off, bumps into Ono, starts crying in front of Ono then gets angry when Toya gets upset that Ono is ONCE AGAIN trying to interfere with their relationship-- whether intentional or not. Yeah Toya was gonna misunderstand when he sees his lover crying and the guy that PREVIOUSLY TRIED TO NOT ONLY SPLIT THEM UP BUT MOLEST KAZU is comforting him.
People really be stickin' to the uke's side in all this 'cause they always see them as "precious must be protected" but sometimes these lil bottom bitches be sippin' that dumb bitch juice the whole series lol
Yessssss, bruh where you been at in these comments?! because you get it! These comments are simpin soo hard for their "cinnamon roll" uke - like his behavour isnt problematic! Then act like the 1 or 2 times toya gets mad he's the only one wrong? How sway? Like shit, im already tired for toya just after reading how much he has to hold kazu up and carry him along. I know every uke can't be strong but constantly making seme's like toya extra possessive and extra strong just to constantly carry and save these ukes is tired at this point. Kazu needs some character development so he can be a better match for toya because while he's a little cute or whateva he's still a fuckin weenie lol
I've been in hiding 'cause my ass has a bad habit of not staying out the comment section and gettin' in trouble LOL
And I totally understand what you're gettin' at. Toya has had to prove himself time and again when Kazu gets a free pass just 'cause he either cries or gets emotional. Like, yeah, Toya is possessive but he's having to be that way 'cause Kazu is defenseless as shit. If he hadn't stepped in the first time he met Ono he probably woulda gotten molested then 'cause Kazu wouldn't open his mouth and tell him straight up "no, I'm dating someone" or put up more resistance. AND AFTER THAT HE STILL DOESN'T PUT HIS FOOT DOWN WITH ONO which is why Toya is so possessive/assertive with Kazu over that shit. Geeeeeez.
That part right there ->"kazu wouldnt open his mouth" and then followed by a sex scene lol - common thread throughout this whole manga. And now we're moving on to the punkass little brother and Ono who still gets a side eye cuz he's creepy and bitter although he does have some common sense about not over complicating shit that isnt that deep ironically lol
B l e s s //claps hands together
Tbh I feel awkward tension with Ono still being in the picture. Like, he was there to add some sort of tension but now he's just kinda there and being a good guy now? We gonna forget he tried to sexually assault someone in a public setting then got mad 'cause he was interrupted? AND HE WAS DOING IT FOR REVENGE REASONS???? HELLO?? And now people want him as a love interest for Yuta and I honestly can't follow. Like, I get it, Ono has a different side but to slap him with a extremely prejudice het guy who is DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE COUPLE HE TRIED TO FUCK OVER is just too much imo lol
Agreed, its a plot development thats obvious but trying way too hard. A new character could have been introduced for Ono to help him heal from his issues but instead he's probably going to just assertively assert himself directly up Yuta's butt lol. Tho not gonna lie, i dislike Yuta more than Ono, Even though i dont like Ono either lol
Chill.
This artist's other work features a younger looking, smaller seme that's an adult.
That and I wonder how ya'll react to young af lookin' adults. I'm damn near 30 years old and get told all the time I need to quit skippin' high school by strangers lol
He ain't even all that short-- Gozu is just MASSIVE which is what plays into the whole buff uke and small seme schtick this artist loves so much lol
For another omegaverse couple. Could never be me lol