why is there's already an established trend of bigger seme's who rape smaller ukes, but when there's smaller seme and bigger uke there's almost without fail rape or lack of consent involved to such a higher degree than the former? I have read literally one smaller seme/ larger uke that did not involve the uke being in a position where he could say no and if he does it's rationalized away as "cute" to forcibly take him. He's so warped with magic caused by the small seme, and the only way to help him is to also take advantage of him to solve the problem the seme created? Of course.....
I swear if this goes the cliche of he’s drunk one night and sexually assaults him “by accident” and thus begins a physical relationship. My eyes will roll back so far up my head you best be calling me Neo.
PREACH
Having finished I’m walking away from this having not liked a single character or element of this short narrative. Thank you translator and your team of course for dedication and time sharing this regardless of how I personally feel. I’m sure there were those who appreciated this plot even in the smallest of way.
I simply do not understand why the author is lamp shading at this point, Taeho’s emotional abuse. This plot has never made any sense. Why now is Taeho second guessing what he’s done? Literally the only reasonable action was to stay away from Eunwoo from the very beginning the whole issue is Taeho’s family is cursed and if Eunwoo falls in love with “you” Taeho you die. If you stayed the fuck away from him and given how the personality the author has given Eunwoo, Eunwoo would have lived a loveless life indefinitely. Instead we have this utter stupidity of emotional abuse and manipulation that’s being rationalized as some fairy tale love story waiting to conclude. The plot makes ZERO sense if you even think for a moment logically.
Ahhh. I see you’ve been surfing tvtropes.org. A friend was trying to get me into that, just the whole “tropes” thing feels ewww
Yes I agree with you. Well said!
My reply is for blueninja89!
This has to be one the most insulting things I have ever read. I know this author clearly didn’t understand the perspective of a queer man but, wow this is just truly exploitative and harmful. BL already has the problem of fetishizing and hyper sexualization the lives of queer men, but now this author has taken it upon themselves to explain their pain and trauma is just a gratuitous and poorly thought out manner. I’m honestly just shocked how offended and disgusted I am by this entire plot.
He is a homosexual author. He knows the pains and tribulations. Please reread what Miura said before that big moment, and then read the novel section I read. The two had a misunderstanding—Miura was ready to let go, but Ono made it impossible for her to due to the audience .
Honestly if he’s a gay author this makes it worse. Because of just how idealized the situation is with no sense of reality. If his intent was to spread Fujoshi’s can understand the gay/bi men they fetishize in this way makes them allies like our FL, this is even more homophobic then they had intended. Or that our MC is pitiable despite being self destructive and selfish but learns nothing other than he’s always the victim. That’s not to say some queer men do not face this reality, but the author has only painted it as just growing pains, not cause and effect. For instance using a girl to your “beard” is forgiven for him being gay when him being gay and him using and cheating on her are not mutually exclusive. There are by far better plots that utilize the queer experience and this definitely leaves a lot to be desired. I’ve recommended some on another post should you be inclined to check them out.
The purpose behind this story is none of the above...the fujoshi element may be noticeable throughout, but it was simply a way for the two to have found each other. And Jun just realized in this chapter that he can't keep being self-destructive; he can't keep waiting for somebody to save him as the tragic hero. He realized he was one-sided in the relationship and never opened up. He was behind a glass wall like Miura said. He is ready to own up for what he did and continue his life. But, there is still a couple steps before he can and the relationship between him and Miura is one. This chapter sets that up.
I think this is really a story you need to read more than once...I felt the same as you guys did initially while translating, but have grown to see more why working on it and reading the novel.
i like want to like this but this is not vibing for me at all. the omega's insistence is pure omegaverse logic sure, but there doesn't seem anything appealing about being with yet another emotional unavailable love interest at the cost of your self respect. Like what about that as a concept is in any way appealing or desirable to anyone?
Cost of their self respect? I don't think the uke has done anything that has costed that tho? How are you measuring self respect then? (them having sex was accidental and doesn't count btw). The uke is just manipulating his way into making an alpha fall for him for his own ulterior motives. The pay off is when their characters do a 180 and fall in love and go from cold manipulative strangers to soft lovers, that's what make these concepts appealing.
and that's perfectly fine if you enjoy that kind of narrative fiction. I just find it repetitive because it's the same "love" will make him change because my virginal naïveté is my defining appeal to said love interest. Due to the concept of the omegaverse his characterization is specifically tied to his sexuality and how it presents itself and interacts with narrative world. So foremost, is his how omega status influences his appeal. The same goes for the alpha counterpart, however because the omegaverse relies on the importance of its hierarchal structure as is traditional the trope our omega even with the privileges of beauty, wealth, and pedigree not afforded to many other omegaverses interpretations, he still must seek the approval of a love interest who wouldn't make any discernible changes to his life other than the fact this specific alpha is "untamable" and influences everyone around him. This alpha has everything he ever wants served to him on a silver plater and this omega is affected by this even to the point of biological nature playing a hand to make this happen. It's that the omega here is special because he's equal to the alpha in every way socioeconomically, but he's still innocent to the world so ultimately that is only thing that sets him apart from all other partners, who the alpha has tried become bored with or discarded. It's just the same basic a good woman will change a wayward/playboy man kind of plot. It's cliched. I know if you've watched the classic movie Gigi, but this is essentially the cliche's birth. But it's fine if others like that, i just personally find nothing about the actually changing the status quo in terms of omegaverse iteration. It's not bad, I just find idea unlikeable as it's so specifically fantastical.But as you've said some people like the pay off of this kind regardless.
Bruh i feel like you're asking way too much for a feel good webtoon lmao. The story ain't deep, it's shallow and is meant for easy consumption and instant gratification. It's yaoi equivalent of a romance pocket book lol. The uke being an omega from a rich family that's /not/ abusive is probably the only unique thing about it. Don't be too hard on it, deep yaoi stories aren't exactly the majority in this site anyway ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Again that’s my point there’s nothing wrong with it this it just doesn’t vibe with me because of the exact points your making. (〜￣△￣)〜
What I don’t understand is people’s annoyance when you don’t like something they like on this site. The comment section is literally the point of conveying points about a plot. And if some reads my comment and comes to the same or different conclusion than my own it doesn’t negate others experience in reading a plot.
Man, u asked what was so appealing about the plot and I answered lol. Even if it was rhetorical (bc u so clearly know why ppl like it) public comments are also subject to scrutiny and randos like me will be giving their opinion. Like hey ur free to comment, but just know that ppl are also free to comment on ur comment lol. And like, my main question in the first place was why would u say he's throwing away his self respect, what did he do to "lose" self worth exactly. But nah nvm. Anyway with that i bid thee farewell
I probably shouldn’t have used self -respect but the word agency instead. His entire agency is tied to the alpha falling in love with him because of his “ recessive heat” despite the alpha offering nothing to the omega in the usual traditional sense of social mobility and is the plot’s central obstacle in itself. That omega has to prove himself to someone who’s presence reinforces the limitations that omega’s gender causes him. Otherwise adieu.
You know who we should be really jealous of? That older lady our thicc brows was seeing before. You know he was laying pipe and sis was getting that on the regular,but she still walked away. Sis who did you find better to literally give up on this Adonis? But for real?These are the real questions I need answered, like yesterday.
She gave up on him to bond with her daughter.
She knew all along that Kang would never put her beyond his career. Given a situation that he would move to any company which give him a better offer. He didn’t even try to deny when she said so. Clearly, as a smart woman, she had to choose her daughter over an unsure relationship.
I know this is suppose to be “cute” but the hyung actually is pretty messed up in the head awful. He can’t separate his kink and reality. I actually feel bad for the MC. The hyung shouldn’t date “seriously” if he treats his partners like toys because that’s actually all he’s doing. I understand the Mc loves him to understand this just a part of the person they love, but some seriously narcissistic fetish that honestly he reaps no rewards from him to his feelings or place in their relationship.
exactly. like there's literally something wrong with him. He also kinda forces the MC into these role-plays all the time while the dude just wants a normal relationship. If someone did this to me, id break up with them cz it's creepy and boring. He doesn't even care that this might lead to a breakup...
I agree with both of you but I just look at this webtoon as a comedy so I try not to take it as seriously
Yeah I get you, like it feels like he is just in this relationship for his own likings and stuff like I feel bad for the seme guy
If this comic/manhwa/webtoon took it self seriously then I would've agreed, but clearly it doesn't. It's probably just some fun comic the author thought of to pass the time. it doesn't really it take itself and we shouldn't too ¯_(ツ)_/¯
That Onie guy is trash all the way through huh. At least he knows it.
Yeah, but only after getting confronted by others does he realize he's trash.
But yeah, I agree Ono's pretty trash. (▰˘◡˘▰)
I want him to have sex with the doctor to cure his sexual insecurities but I don’t actually want him to fall in love with the doctor. The whole thing is the doctor is objectifying him as just a sexual object rather than a person. Fetishizing him no less. And the doctor does this with all his patients it seems which while is likely helpful to their confidence actually is dehumanizing and frankly kind of gross. I don’t go around throwing the slut word around, but he’s found a profession to exploit the problems of people he helps for his own sex addiction. Plus you wouldn’t want to date someone who the instant a bigger dick is on the horizon is already spreading their legs.
Perfectly said. I hope he does not date him. He is so shallow.