I know that was hot for a lot of people but that scene just confirmed what I knew already. the seme for all his “charm” his clearly your typical brutish seme with the tendency towards the extreme and a complete disregard of the autonomy of their partner. That actually grossed me out and hightlighted exactly what his friend said in the cafe that he’s never cared about the wants of his partner’s over his own and that’s saying something as his friend raped his own love interest too to gain their affection.
This plot is very predatory so I have to wonder if the author is going to be faithful to how the actual sex A.V. industry works especially in regards to gay content. The gay for pay that is straight men having gay sex only for monetary gain. Plus the misuse of power demonstrated by many studios where directors often are sexually inappropriate with models (watch King Cobra by James Franco). I’m gathering that Glen has no problem misusing his power, preying on models he deems attractive and reverting back to own time as a model as an excuse to sleep with his person of interest essentially forcing them into agreement as a guise of work related convenience or simply an unworded threat of unemployment if not compliant. It is not customary of the founder of the company to have sex with a specific model of their choosing, however this does happen on occasion depending on desires made known from their patrons in requesting specific models performs together. Of course because this is yaoi this might be completely ignored and praised simply for its multitude of sex scenes and somewhat interesting plot though.
Hmmm... Interesting, I see you are educated. That’s good
I understood half of what you said
Perhaps, maybe if the author has done her research. I might keep this in mind for future reference to evaluate this webtoon.
If ed actually attracted to glen, I see no harm in it.
by the looks of it this manwha as adult settings on it, so probably has no sexual harassment masked as a joke.
This last chapter royally pissed me off. All he did was complain and be selfish got what he wanted in the end and still won’t even compromise in letting his partner have an opportunity to top. A partner who conceded like an actual mature person. Seriously megan-kun was such a dick about their first time. I would have actually been so much happier if he’d bottomed and realized he can still pleasure his partner and then switched because of course he would let Hidaka try topping.
Plus his side comment of how he was such a great bottom and should stay that way was honestly patronizing and insulting. I know that was suppose to be “endearing” but god uke/seme dynamics can be so toxic when taken out the confines of their fictional narrative.
And of course I get downvoted because I point out the faults of a character but to each their own
I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Hidaka is selfish and inconsiderate. He didn't have the experience either, but he didn't wanna budge because of some sort of "macho" crap or whatever, like being called "cute" is insulting (but not when he calls Yoshimi that). Yoshimi, as Aki said, was being fair and way more mature that him. He didn't say "no" to bottoming, but he also wanted to have the chance to be the one om top, which is perfectly understandable and something he should be allowed experience. Now that possibility is dismissed by telling him that he has potential as a bottom (?????). What? He has never topped, how can he know if he has the ability to top too? Reversible couples are healthy, you know.
In Aki's case it's different because he prefers it that way. But Yoshimi has no way to know what he likes the most, and Hidaka won't let him have a choice.
Same lol, i’m someone who actually doesn’t like seke couples, but I thought it was extremely unfair. After hidaka topped once, he should have given yoshimi the opportunity to top.
I agree also, you got an up vote from me.
Seriously that's a douchebag thing to do Prince Noah. Even if you don't want to get married that's such a shitty thing to meet your betrothed literally after leaving a whorehouse. I get that it's the times but have some decorum you're royalty ffs.
Tbh that’s been bothering me does the author actually contribute to paying for the groceries he’s constantly mooching off on. Besides falling asleep everywhere, being a beacon of trouble, and his writing ability he’s kind of honestly not my first pick for a stable partner let alone person. I don’t mind fictional man childs but honestly how has our mc survived up until this point it’s kind of shameless how he didn’t even put up a fight when the neighbor decided to take care of all his needs, there’s at least trying to save face and attempt at being self deprecating ,humble with a refusal. instead of shamelessly thinking now there goes my free meal ticket when faced with the reality of might as well end your lease because you live at your neighbors free with all the benefits .
There's pretending to be able to read and making judgements of something you clearly don't understand and actually not being able to read. If I tell you that the reason the MC is concerned is not because he doesn't get a free meal but because he is uncomfortable with the awkward atmosphere between the two of them and that, by this point, he knows it's futile to argue and just how dangerous it is for someone with narcolepsy to be cooking (better than you do apparently), which category do you think you fall into?
ffs there's a difference between being concerned about an awkward situation and only now being mindful of being incapable of taking care of yourself as a grown man and taking it as a comedic moment over the mote point that it is. Even his own friend has commented on this, so your attempt at villainizing my comment is pointless and grasping at straws. As for your own judgement in whether or not I've read the chapter to fully grasp a medical condition and it's impact on a person's day to day activities such as cooking, you clearly cannot grasp the obvious social nicety offering to pay or give in exchange a sort of collateral for the graciousness of an otherwise stranger taking care of you. An awkward atmosphere or a preexisting medical condition doesn't negate that his neighbor does a considerable amount for him, including rescuing him from kidnappers. As for the dangers of cooking once more he didn't die eating his own cooking as a narcoleptic, what's returning to that life once more? Otherwise he'd be literally dead by now so he's owed nothing for his longevity thus far. It's rather rude to place your exaggerated discomfort over someone else's and then feel inconvenienced when your discomfort results in making the other party just uncomfortable and self-conscious. If you're going to avoid him, he as just as much right to avoid you and of course withhold the benefits of your interaction. To focus primarily on that fact you will no longer receive free meals is so childish and immature, when he should rather be focused on how he clearly insulted the man who he's inconvenienced for quite sometime, but still aids him due to concern and some uncovered connection to one another .
it's "cute" but you bought him from a blackmarket trafficking auction and proceed to have sex with a kidnapped person who's drugged which because it's yaoi logic the kidnapped of course then encourages and accepts as the logical sequence of events. Sigh both Stockholm and rape to love in less time than you can say "Well I'll be darned". The reality of it is too dark for it be neatly ended with your name means love my name means love so let's love each other.
lawls when you get downvoted for literally stating the obvious.
Dude, we all know already but who seriously cares. We all came here looking for something sexy to read, who cares about morals in porn, seriously.
i know that it's the point of the plot, but I've never really been a fan of the manipulate your dumb crush into sleeping with you under false pretenses that many yaoi mangas employ, especially with the threesome trope in addition. It somehow makes me feel uncomfortable, it's why I honestly hated Choco Strawberry I know these sort of three ways end up being happily ever afters but I just feel bad how only one character is completely manipulated but is too stupid or accepting of the situation and allows themselves to be completely taken advantage of.
Me too. I don't like manipulative characters as I tend to feel bad for the manipulated.
I’m actually surprised people are even mentioning the rape scene as Takano has in fact raped/coerced Ritsu previous times before. I admitted have long since stopped cheering for any sort of relationship between these two characters because it is utterly toxic. Ritsu is guliable and Takano while “pitiable due to his past” - sarcasm and eye roll, he is truly a disgusting case of “nice guy” that some won’t be able to distinguish beyond his moments of nicety to Ritsu. But like many who have and continue to read this my nostalgia and loyalty to one of the first mangas i had read which introduced me to yaoi has made continue to this journey. I more than want to simply just finish this manga and consider it an accomplishment, that I and others have grown past our initial acceptance of the problematic issues that plague the genre and now see for its entertainment but never as deseriable or worth encouraging even in a fictional setting. however there are others even younger than I reading this yaoi for the first time, with possible this manga being their starting point like myself and are being introduced to a relationship that justifies more than its fair share of toxicity without the knowledge of experience and healthy references. Let’s not shame people for reading this for whatever their reason, but please stop excusing fictional rape as acceptable as well as the workings of toxic relationships. while some can differentiate, fictional abuse/ violence/ sexual violence are just as influencable as any media source to say otherwise is ignorant and harmself
I find great that in this manga all the fans, the ones that like Takano and the ones that don't, find his actions equally horrible. That's not something that happens in other mangas, unfortunately, and I think that's mostly because a huge part of the fans of this manga are older, we've grown up with the story and keep on reading it because of nostalgia, as you said, but we're perfectly able to distinguish a toxic relationship when we see it
But for new yaoi readers, this is not the better start, like, at all. Specially if we're talking about teens.
You are right , beginners should try first shounen ai with lots of fluff
Yep, or at least some yaoi that aren't based on the rape trope (or mangas that don't normalize rape)
I always recommend Rutta to Kodama (by Fujitani Youko) to everyone hahaha
Cause it shows a really healthy relationship even tho it is yaoi (Ii Ko Ii Ko Shiteageru from the same autor works too).
Honestly what the hell is the timeline of this story. Now there’s cars and colonial style modern houses all of a sudden? Is the author just being lazy in being consistent
i dont know when it is, but remembers me a lot of 91 days (its an anime) and i think the time is the same, you should see it
thanks for the suggestion I'lll have to give it a watch
youre welcome! the anime is really good, but veeeery melancholic
the typical blackmail rape trope. sigh funny thing is why didn't chiaki think to blackmail his abuser with the knowledge that his abuser obviously was gay hence his ownership of a gay magazine? Then again having his photo in said magazine with sure evidence demonstrated by his unique moles would have been hard to explain.
I think the blackmail was more aimed at sending the pucture to his dad coz he put up a fight until the other guy threatened to send the pics to his father.
obviously, but it he was being blackmailed for being in a gay magazine so he theoretically could have called his bluff by revealing his abuser as gay himself by possessing said magazine. The jist of the blackmail was being possibly gay in a revealing magazine and having that be revealed to his father. Chiaki could have made others in the school aware of his blackmailers orientation because Japan his homophobic hence turning the tables, however it still remained his moles would have given him away so he'd still be at a standstill unless he somehow removed his moles.Regardless the blond ex is a piece of shit who honestly had no motivation for being a villain other than being written that way for the sake of the plot and a pitiable backstory for Chiaki.
You are working under the assumption that the ex cares about his reputation just as much as Chiaki cares about his father not knowing the truth. The blackmail works if only because Chiaki loves his father too much. I thought that much is clear, since Chiaki who seems to be perpetually chill, got really worked up at the mention of his father. The ex knew this and used it to his advantage.
As for the ex motivation, well, ask every single rapist in yaoi, and you most likely get the "I love him too much, so I rape him" scenario. What I find refreshing from this manga is Chiaki does not develop feeling for his ex, and does not end up with him, unlike the majority of yaoi out there.
You know I dont respond much because I cant form arguments or answers very well, but you just articulated perfectly what I thought but couldnt form