I think Daiki meant that as in "stop having doubts as in, you have a boner, run to the bathroom and quickly solve it... don't keep hesitating to do something, when the kid could wake up any minute and see it."
Though I guess the reason why he didn't take the mc to that bathroom just to make him get a nice, quick cold shower, is still yaoi logic... ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
So, I've been trying to think about what could have Isis and Osiris talked about, when she temporarily revived him. That sure must have been one "interesting" conversation... Do you guys have any theories? Do you think Isis let him know that she knew everything? Or did she act dumb just to get what she wanted? Do you think there's any chance Osiris may have somehow managed to manipulate her into turning the blame on Seth? (and if he did, what on earth could he have said to her, to achieve that?)
The only two things I have a pretty strong hunch on are:
1) that she probably didn't really sleep with Osiris, and just made him give her his "seed", same as with Neftys... and,
2) that he somehow made her start doubting her own power, similar to what he did with Seth.
So, what do you guys think happened? Any ideas?
I have thoughts of the conversation between Osiris and Isis.
In my imagination, their conversations are filled with lies and tricks, where the goal is to outwit and deceive each other.
Yes, I think Isis told Osiris she was aware of the incident involving Osiris and Seth. Also tells how Seth treated her after Osiris's death. But, I think, Isis lied that she did not care about what happened between Osiris and Seth, nor about Osiris' feelings for Seth.
It was seen from how Osiris was no longer so secretive about his feelings to Seth, even blatantly showing it, as if he didn't care if anyone found out about it.
Then Osiris's attitude of treating Isis like a partner who has more or less the same goal. For example, Osiris gave a flower seed he developed from Seth's seed to sabotage the match between Seth and Horus, to which Isis responded by saying, how romantic, in a sarcastic manner.
Osiris also told Seth several chapters ago about the reason why he did not drag Seth directly to the Duat, because Osiris thought, at least Isis has the right to be able to get her revenge on Seth.
Regarding the theory that Isis was manipulated by Osiris, there is a possibility that it happened. But I hope not.
Indeed, with such conditions, it will reduce the hatred of readers aimed at Isis. But I really hate that possibility. Not because I want Isis to continue to be hated by readers, but for me it is a cheap way taken by an incompetent author to cultivate the characters they creates Just because they doesn't want readers to hate the characters they makes and sadly there are so many who do this .
The concept of Isis being manipulated by Osiris, will only make Isis's character collapse. Being inconsistent. It also takes away the depth and complexity of Isis' character.
So I really hope that theory doesn't happen.
1. I have the opposite assumption. Because I thought that Isis had Horus because of having sex with Osiris.
I don't look down on Isis if she does have sex with Osiris, despite everything that happened before. Because in my eyes, Osiris is like a sinful pleasure for Isis. It is the same as narcotics for an addict. Which one knows bad and destructive, but absolutely cannot stop the longing for it.
There is a comment on the story called Stockholm which is in the onimbus Joshi BL, which I forgot the name of the account, says more or less; No matter how bad a person is, there must be someone who loves them. And no matter how much a person sacrifices them loved ones, it is nothing for those who receive.
It seems to me that this sentence describes the relationship between Osiris and Isis in Ennead well.
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Regarding Neptyhys, I really wish she had sex with Osiris. No, not because I wanted to call her by a bad name and have reasons to hate her. This is because, if Neptyhys has sex with Osiris, it makes her less manipulative than if she is not having sex.
Say if Neptyhys was under the influence of Hator's mirror, that was why she had sex with Osiris. But if not then isn't the reason Neptyhys is embarrassed because she easily sacrificed her husband and children?
2. Again, I have the opposite opinion.
Osiris did not have the key to destroying Isis as he did to destroy Seth. In Seth's case, there was Neptyhys (and Anubis), but not for Isis.
And if Isis had any doubts about her strength, there was no way Isis would have a plan to drown Egypt. What usually takes one God Major (Isis) and four Minor Gods to do this.
For the reason Isis's strength is weakening, I have the assumption that reviving Osiris was the cause. Because no matter how strong Isis was, she was a Goddess of Magic, not a Goddess of Life and Death. There must have been a huge negative impact on Isis for resurrecting Osiris.
"Break up if you're actually being serious"
Me: Oh? So they are free to keep fooling around if they just say it's a 'pastime'?
Lmao, they actually think the opposite of what I'd say, "don't play with fire unless you're completely serious".
Besides, there is always a loophole even in cases like this, for effing sake. The bro and cousin, as part of the *younger* generation, should be helping them find that loophole, instead of just guilt tripping them, smh.
Perhaps, Gensuke's bro and Take-nii might as well take on those traditional roles, if they could get "adopted" by each others' families (and then the two kids can make "new names" for themselves). Or something like that... I mean, fr, there has to be *something* they can do...
Do you guys think there's any chance Isis thinks that Seth should have known that if Osiris killed Anubis, she would have been able to resurrect him (like she did with Osiris himself, later?) ....Though Osiris' own revival "failed" because he had already given himself to Duat, the thing is Isis does seem to have some sort of resurrecting powers...
Is this a possible reason why Isis also cursed Seth...?
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Like others, I've also been wondering if the author had another reason to have Isis curse Seth as well, besides the obvious.
And then I remembered this scene from chapter 59, where Horus and Anubis are talking, and Horus remembers a conversation that Ra had with his mother Isis, when he was little and Isis had taken him to Ra in order to ask for Ra's help. That's when we hear Ra say, this is the result of the four siblings ignoring a warning she had given them (either to Isis, or to all four of them):
Ra: (to Isis) "꼴이 참 우습구나. 이시스. 도와달라니, 수치도 모르고. 정말이지, 너희 남매는 인간이나 다름없구나. 넷이 모여 구질구질하게 살 때부터 알아봤지. 신이 인간을 흉내 내며 살았으니 이 사달이 난 거 아니겠느냐. 내 경고를 무시한 대가를 치룬 게다." (That's funny, Isis. You say 'help me' while knowing no shame. Really, you siblings are like humans. I've been expecting this since the four of you gathered and lived together. Gods who lived imitating humans. So this four month was born -?- You paid the price for ignoring my warnings")
My point is, while Ra's meaning is that Horus' weakness is a result of his parents having lived "the human way", her mentioning that there had been a prior warning makes me wonder whether this warning wasn't what was in Isis' mind when she briefly held that knife to kill Anubis. Back then, she thought of Anubis as "the source of destruction", which we can all agree was pretty unfair... But what if she meant it in the sense that he was the child born and raised as a result of its parents' desire to imitate human love and human families, particularly as a result of Seth's own attachment to human values? ...I mean, if Isis giving birth to a weak, human Horus is the result of living the human way ignoring Ra's warning, and if Ra is right that these four gods' insistence on having (and raising) kids that way is a violation of the proper god's "code of lifestyle", and a trigger for trouble, catastrophe, karma, devine retribution or whatever we call it.. then Seth's wish to be a father in the human way would have to have been the first violation of Ra's warning, or trigger for karma, or whatever... and that's why Isis shifted her anger from Anubis to the four of them, who brought this on themselves (if Ra is to be believed) by yielding to their "human-like" yearnings.
Anyway, this would only make sense in an Asian webtoon, definitely. In the West, we usually put an intention over its effects, so we don't normally think much of this particular (but existent) interpretation of karma as in "all actions that come to harm others will give you karma, notwithstanding your original intention"
I thought of this because we always see it in Asian fiction, how someone being "too greedy" is never a good thing, and may get you some karma. Like it's a bad idea to "want more beyond what you're given or what you're supposed to have"... I see that phrase over and over and even when a character wants things that are perfectly understandable... That's why I thought, maybe that's also the whole point of Seth's "mistep": the four of them already had Egypt to rule all by themselves, yet he had to go and "become greedy" by asking for even more than that, even in spite of knowing (if he even did?) that this was going against Ra's warning.
(⊙…⊙ ) omg this is so very interesting, ty for sharing your thoughts! lol i should be studying yet here i am reading ennead theories.
in response to your initial question: yes why not, it makes sense to me. but that means this for sure goes WAY deeper than just the hotly commented ~rapist osiris + vengeful isis + madman seth + weak nepthy~ situation we see. this is adding a meta/cosmos level layer added to this story on to top of everything else.
wow, is this intentional on behalf of mojito, or are we just reading way too deep into this? I am not familiar with any of their past works (if they have any others) so I'm not sure if they tend to go deep, or just dip in and out and stay in more mundane things like usual drama + well-drawn smut.
Yeah, I agree it sounds a bit too deep... but Horus' conversation with Anubis, Ra's "weird views" on the whole matter, as well as many other things in the story, would not make sense together, otherwise.
All I see here, all the time, is a Buddhist-like mindset applied to the setting of the Egyptian mythologycal cosmos... (that is, if it doesn't turn out Egyptian mythology is more "Buddhist-like" than we ever imagined)... Mojito makes Horus say even stuff like Seth's and Anubis's attachment to each other is undermining their respective godly powers... That wordly attachments of this kind are typical of humans, (and therefore, gods should reject them). These are all typical Buddhist ideas, and since Buddhism is one of the popular religions in Korea, I can't help but think that this may be where the author's ideas are coming from.
"Buddhist-like mindset applied to the setting of the Egyptian mythologycal cosmos" what a clever thing to come to realize. i absolutely agree, it makes sense for a korean author to regard any myth with their own world viewpoint as baseline. it's like when people nowadays make their own version of the hades & persephone story and make sure to make persephone's consent super explicit (in original hades abducts and rapes her).







You're forbidden from grinning unless get rid of your sex friend, Kubota!!
Don't play with Minjun's feelings, he's got a kid to stay strong for!