percyjackson May 22, 2020 6:26 am

Lol initially by only reading the summary I was like, how do you match with a guy on social media and agree to meet while being a homophobe yourself.

After reading the first chapter: oh I see...

percyjackson May 22, 2020 4:01 am

I am so worried about Angel's mom. There's where the angst is coming righttttt??

percyjackson May 21, 2020 12:03 pm

Why do people not like Gabriel or find him annoying? I find him a victim of circumstance...

    Aya3 May 21, 2020 12:31 pm

    Right? I mean, he is being manipulated by a vampire, he was raped, he saw death of his friend as a child (not really, apparently, but he believed so) and now he's just trying his best to protect the person that he loves. What's wrong or annoying in that?

    Aya3 May 21, 2020 12:45 pm

    I mean, wouldn't it be understandable that he's the weakest? He's just a priest that didn't know anything that went on until he met Paulo. Paulo is a vampire so he's strong, which is obvious, Sailou knew that something's on since long ago and he actually has some powers, and then there are those hunters that probably have some experience dealing with stuff like this.
    Despite the situation and his weakness, I think Gabriel is doing actually better than most of the usual protagonists?

    percyjackson May 21, 2020 2:00 pm
    Right? I mean, he is being manipulated by a vampire, he was raped, he saw death of his friend as a child (not really, apparently, but he believed so) and now he's just trying his best to protect the person that... Aya3

    I find him really cute and feisty, not sure why people would think he is weak. He is a normal human (wolf but repressed memories) going against powerful supernatural beings. Like what do yoh want him to do

percyjackson May 21, 2020 3:39 am

Spoilers....
Like seriously only read if you are deciding whether to continue or drop this manhua
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I would like to say the premise of this story is really interesting and has so much potential. But...it falls into the typical I call it 'dog blood' trashy drama style. This is far from mo dao zu shi. The characters have no backstory, their motivations and goals doesn't make sense and are weak, they are very one dimensional. I've long given up on recent chinese novels, manhua or dramas because of all these annoying tropes, it was only slightly rekindled because of stories such as mo dao zu shi.
There are several problems I have with the story,
1)the Prince is overly abusive and possessive for no reason. At least give him a back story, albeit a cliche one for me to understand why he acts this way.
2)the villains are bad for... No reasons? They are just bad because they are against the mute slave. And they are stupid as hell, so I don't feel any tension while reading it.
3)the sex scenes are damn weird. But I won't comment on that since most bl novels are that way. But if you wanna compare it to good yaoi manga this will lose out.
4)the slave actually end up talking halfway through the story as the mutism is due to a trauma. I mean, it can make sense, but the whole premise of silent lover is to craft a story where you can love without words isnt it. A cruel Prince moved by a slave who is sincere and convey his feelings through his eyes and body language. But then they have to change it towards the end. Suddenly I feel like the love is really cheap.
5)so halfway through the story, the princess brother who is the king actually set a trap and create a misunderstanding to the prince where he and the Prince spend a night. The Prince got so angry and ignored the slave and found a new guy concubine(sponsored by the Princess). The slave tried to win him back and even present a red bean, symbolises love in his hometown to the Prince and the Prince destroyed it. The slave got really heartbroken and asked to get divorce, then he is captured by the king. In order to get revenge, the slave pretends to be in love with the king to anger the Prince when the Prince was in jail in the Palace for rebelling against the king. Then apparently later we will find out that the Prince knew the King's scheme all along and is purposefully ignoring the slave so that the slave can go to the King's side because... The slave is actually a descendant of the previous ancient dynasty and they hold some sort of special treasure. The palace library will have special records to help the slave find the location. The Prince have ears everywhere, he heard the location, seize the key and then attack the Palace. Now the Prince is the new king. After his grand scheme of taking over the country, he began his journey of winning the slave back. Apparently him ignoring the slave and him being with the new lover are only pretend so that he can get the throne. I am like wth? You put your lover through hell and after you trampled on his feelings, got what you want and now you want him back? Even though there are some description where the author said, oh the Prince was cruel in the beginning, he only aim for the throne but be actually liked the slave, then as his love grows, he don't even care for the treasure location anymore. But still, the way the story présent this character is way too weird and you can't feel sorry for him.
6)literally every guy will fall for the slave in the story. And every girl will hate the slave for snatching guy. Like if this is not ridiculous, idk what is.
So far the manhua is still doing okay. I hope this is an adaptation of the novel and the manhia will have major changes. Apparently in the novel the Prince broke the slaves wrist on the first day of sex, but it is omitted here. So I hope the manhua will be based lightly on the novel, and most importantly let the slave remain to be mute and frame the story better for the characters or else I will be dropping this.

    Clauwie May 23, 2020 1:26 am

    I think anyone who has been reading bl novels and manhwa at least 2-3 years would know that not every chinese historical bl will be like MDZS. It tires and annoys me that every historical bl manhwa/novel gets compared to mdzs, there have been many novels before mdzs and there will be many after it. Comparing each and every single one of them to mdzs or its standard is wrong even if the story setting is similar. They are all different stories and even those in a similar cultivation setting aren't the same

    Yameteeee May 30, 2020 11:00 am

    I'm thankful for the spoiler but please don't compare other BL novels/manhuas with MDZS. That story is on a different level of uniqueness. Comparing them will only make your standards for BL novels higher than it was supposed to be. Every novel has their own kind of story to tell, so please dont compare.

    Clauwie May 30, 2020 2:38 pm
    I'm thankful for the spoiler but please don't compare other BL novels/manhuas with MDZS. That story is on a different level of uniqueness. Comparing them will only make your standards for BL novels higher than ... Yameteeee

    Thank you, this is exactly what I was saying

    Anye1116 May 31, 2020 7:02 am
    Thank you, this is exactly what I was saying Clauwie

    The thing about MDZS is I find it's story not revolve around the relationship between lwj and wwx. Yes it's important to the story but its overall plot revolves around the sects and the misfortune of the amulet/yin iron has brought to them. It slike Romance is a part of the story. While in most of these BL romance is the bigger part of the story, not just a part. So yeah it's unfair to compare them side by side.

    But to OP, thanks for the spoiler. I'll probs read until the scheming starta and drop it if the story doesn't appeal to me anymore. I love the art lol

percyjackson May 20, 2020 3:39 pm

Ya know... You can just substitute the slave with a girl and this can flow like a good shoujo manhua. But nevertheless, I like it very much!

My interpretation is I think Chen is afraid the Prince will execute him because the doctor found out.

Also in mandarin he and she sounds the same, so you won't know the gender of a person until you write it down. According to traditional Chinese practice, the doctor can know your gender once they take your pulse, that is why the doctor found out about his gender without even touching him.

    percyjackson May 20, 2020 4:07 pm

    Okay I read the raws... And I was wrong, chen yu really believed that the Prince did not know he is a guy. I am trying to brainwash myself that this is possible...

    _simoon_ May 20, 2020 4:45 pm
    Okay I read the raws... And I was wrong, chen yu really believed that the Prince did not know he is a guy. I am trying to brainwash myself that this is possible... percyjackson

    Hey can u tell me the link for the raws please. ╥﹏╥

    rain May 20, 2020 11:12 pm
    Hey can u tell me the link for the raws please. ╥﹏╥ _simoon_

    https://www.novelupdates.com/series/silent-lover/

percyjackson May 20, 2020 9:22 am

Spoilers anyone?? I just need to know if they are gonna end up together....

    traveller May 20, 2020 10:39 am

    Oh gosh exactly.I cant tolerate anymore (/TДT)/

percyjackson May 19, 2020 11:16 am

So I take that skyler is the kind of person who goes out with girls just to make yongduk jealous?? Is he really in love with minji and Co? Seems from the convo his first and only crush is yongduk and the girlfriends are just for show. Are both of them bi?? Enlighten me please?

percyjackson May 18, 2020 4:41 pm

I need moreeeeree.... This is like the one punch man but BL

percyjackson May 18, 2020 12:40 pm

Notice the seme said, "I am surprise you actually do everything I said" and "if I am threatening someone of course I won't do this" which means the seme is just taking the picture for fun and the uke got so damn worked up. I mean who cares about someone not wearing briefs. Then also the main threat from the seme is originally the uke's picture in ch 1, but it quickly switched to the punch on the cheek which will taint the uke's school record. So the picture actually holds less value to the threat. And when the nurse ask the seme what happen to his cheek in Ch 3, he said, a ball hit him. So basically the seme is just going along with the gullible uke. And the uke is just curious, and somehow following the seme for some reason.

percyjackson May 17, 2020 7:10 am

Based on the old fashion drawings, I thought it will have some unhealthy yaoi tropes. But it turns out to be really refreshing!

    Nyay May 22, 2020 6:12 pm

    Uhh, are you implying that old bl has more problematic tropes than present-day bl? LMAO

    mewo May 31, 2020 1:14 pm

    Same ! I thought that too but now i feel like my heart is flying

    Fujoshi-sama June 1, 2020 3:09 am
    Uhh, are you implying that old bl has more problematic tropes than present-day bl? LMAO Nyay

    Exactly that's what I'm thinking. I think toxic stories are popular in the present. Some people just don't read the old fashion because they don't like the art but I think they are more refreshing.

    Nyay June 2, 2020 6:12 pm
    Exactly that's what I'm thinking. I think toxic stories are popular in the present. Some people just don't read the old fashion because they don't like the art but I think they are more refreshing. Fujoshi-sama

    Yeah problematic/toxic tropes are definitely more common right now. A whole new subgenre was even invented (omegaverse) in an attempt to romanticize rape even more.

    Which is why what the op said confused the hell out of me lmao

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