What’s bothering me the most isn’t the story, it’s actually the comments. People saying McQueen was Ed’s pimp. Sure, with his glances here and there he emotionally manipulated Ed. Ed is a victim 100%. He never wanted to do porn and never actually needed the money from it.
Oh and of course all the love for Chang.... i too find it sexy when I’m backstabbed by a close friend and stuck for years paying an enormous debt. And treating me like im dog shit while they are at it.
when they ship for Chang and are mad at McQueen for pimping Ed when the reason why Ed had to do porn was to pay Chang’s debt
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I think you're doing that thing where you think being trafficked into sex is better than having a debt or a friendship betrayal (that someone tries to make up).
Also no one is shipping chang and ed, they want Mcqueen to be looked at critically. How you say "glances here and there of how he emotionally manipulated ed" and then describe chang's debt and betrayal with such strong language is scary and seems to indicate you think that trafficking someone who likes you into porn is a minor offense.
It's... not...
Ed came on his own to get a job at a porn company. And McQueen proposed to Ed to do more porn. There was literally nothing wrong in that. Wether or not he accepted only to please McQueen doesn’t matter because McQueen didn’t manipulate Ed into the porn.
It’s as if im selling jewelry, and you buy them because you like me. And then you get into debt because you couldn’t afford to buy them all. And now you are blaming me? LOL
Also the pay for anal porn was better than masturbation, and Ed is in a high need of money, so there is a high possibility he would have accepted with or without being attracted to McQueen.
As we know, he went to do prostituion because he needed money.
That's just not how consent in porn works and you can't compare it to selling jewelry, this is the problem.
Please go get educated about the topic. Also, we see Ed quitting porn before everything is paid off and we see him telling at McQueen about how he felt pumped and like garbage. Interesting that you can have such a clinical view despite the character's own statements.
*yelling / *pimped
What McQueen did to Ed can’t be considered manipulation. Just tell me what exactly he did (with chapters/pages) because i seriously have no idea where you see the manipulation.
Also, yes there are a lot of people who still likes Chang and wish he didn’t rape and gotten with Ed instead. (As if he was still a good ship before the rape)
Or people who wants a side story for him
Chapter 33, he says he has no problem shamelessly recommending people into porn and occupying their thoughts -- ie he knows he worms his way into their heads. Then he does it to Ed.
Tbh I dont want a side story of Chang, I hope these authors never touch these topics again lol. And I think the rape was brutal but also a good easy way for the author to tie up the story.
Let me know what you think of McQueen's internal monologue!
As i said, it doesn’t matter wether or not Ed was doing it for McQueen, because McQueen didn’t manipulate Ed into it.
Dude did you read? He clearly states he manipulated Ed into it
His monologue only means that he is charismatic and that it helps him recruit for porn.
Literally, he only made the proposal and then answered to Ed, confirming he would like Ed to do it. That is very far away from manipulating someone.
At that point, everything would be manipulation as long as
1. You ask for something
2. The other person says yes
3. The other person didn’t initially want to do it
Just because Ed regretted his choice of accepting McQueen’s proposal. It doesn’t mean that his consent wasn’t valid.
Bro you are really reaching here to protect McQueen -- he told Ed about the Lancer shoot after they'd had sex... have you ever had sex before????? Do you know about the vulnerability???
Also this is exactly what manipulation is !! Loool!!! Except usually manipulation like this doesn't matter but in the context of sex work it does.
Here's a definition of grooming in sex trafficking: "Grooming is the process traffickers use to control and manipulate someone into human trafficking. Although the specific actions are different, traffickers usually follow the same steps: gain the victim’s trust, provide for the victim’s needs, isolate the victim, force the victim into trafficking."
Yea and isolating/forcing the victim isn’t here at all.
Also McQueen didn’t especially try to gain Ed’s trust either.
And provide for the victim’s needs, well he is doing porn for money, i do hope he got paid.
McQueen didn’t follow these steps at all.
Yes i have had sex. And I don’t see how you can justify McQueen manipulating Ed just because they had sex.
Also, Lance was supposed to do it with Ed BEFORE McQueen did it with Ed. McQueen had to replace Lance because the plane was delayed(or something like that).
That means Ed was already agreed to be a bottom BEFORE having sex with McQueen.
I mean... i do think that Jordyn should break up with Simon and never want anything to do with Simon ever again. BUT Simon isn’t as bad as i expected him to be. He told the truth right away and even though he didn’t admit to be the one to make the move, he didn’t put the blame on Owen either.
Thats why i think he should fuck off from Jordyn’s life, but still deserve to be paired up with someone new.
After seeing so many stories with ukes cheat on seme. And they be like *omg this is the best sex ever / omg he knows all my good spot* then cheats nom stop. Eventually break up with their BF. And at the end they be like *omg turns out i actually loved my BF, lets go back to him*. I mean... just any story where they cheat but still claim to love their partner.
Atleast Simon admitted that he can’t get serious on Jordyn because he doesn’t think it’s gonna work. (We got somehow an explanation)
But he lied and said they did it lol
and what if Owen did let him have sex with him and he followed the same trope lol - not really complaining about the plot but your logic doesn’t make any sense
The trope i dislike is :
- uke cheats but claims that he love his BF despite cheating. Of course he hides it.
- After the truth is exposed, after some time the uke realize that it was a big mistake and now he realize he can only be with the seme.
Even if Owen would have fucked him, it doesn’t change the fact that 1. Simon admitted that he didn’t believe his relationship with Jordyn would last. And 2. he told Jordyn the truth right away.
I mean... technically it’s still cheating. So getting into details isn’t necessary.
In case you forgot. The MC and Seok il had been dating for 6 FUCKING YEARS.
Imagine getting a free pass to cheat and break up with your boyfriend for any crush you ever had because *you really liked them* at one point. That’s so fucking stupid. Oh and those who thinks that he needed closure with his ex, well guess what, sex isn’t the only way to get a closure.
Lol and of course the whole *i dont even care about seok il and i still love my ex* to *ok well now i choose Seok il*
Oh and of course the seme takes him back like its nothing ._.
This is such a bad turn of events.
It’s not fun when only one of them is being trash. It would be better if both of them were trash or both were good lovers.
*it hasn’t even been a week since i decided to not have sex without protection*
I’m a bit confused. So like... the uke started thinking about protection AFTER he started dating the seme??? Even though he has on’y been sleeping with the seme for quite some time??? I’m confused so if someone understand please explain :D
I am JUST as confused as you lmao
No, they were using protection before but now, they are doing it raw.
Their drama was interesting but it’s still a bit weird.
Well first of all, Pan should have said from the start that he didn’t want anything serious. Considering that he knows what he wants and wasn’t afraid to say it, idk why he didn’t say it at first.
Then it took him 30 days AFTER the *break up* to go find him and say sorry. That’s a bit long, should have been faster. That just proves that he didn’t feel he did anything wrong until a month after. People who takes that much time to realize their mistakes/feelings are problematic.
And of course, the ending, wtf was that.
The problem : Pan doesn’t believe the relationship will last.
Solution : red hair will become an accomplished adult.
Me : WTF MAN HOW IS THAT CHANGING ANYTHING???
Still, it was interesting to see their mindset and also how they were acting towards each other. I also liked how red hair realistically dealt with the situation. I’m not a fan of : ok let’s see each other in some years and everything will be solved. But overall it wasn’t bad.
The new guy isn’t that bad honestly. He was very desperate (2 years) and he pretty much only hurt Chanwoo’s pride (their relationship was at a point where they were asking MD for permission).
I know it won’t happen, but i seriously wouldn’t mind if new guy ended up with MD.
Yes!! Chanwoo is behaving like a little bi*** because of how hurt his pride is. He is a masochist who loves humiliations (from his past, toxic relationships and they obviouslydid worst than that...) and now that MD is giving him a little bit of that... Every thing is now seen wrong. The new guy seems like a capable slave.
However as a sadist... I feel the need to make Chanwoo turn and do as I say (if I was there and if I was MD). I hope MD does the same thing he did before they took a break: say the safe word and stay with the new guy (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ He obviously isn't doing this because he is jealous nor because he feels bitter. It is quite obvious that he enjoys and loves the hurt expression Chanwoo has, and wants to see him cry. Haha!
... with this i feel like i have lost all hope for Youngha to get a deserving punishment.
Even after all he did, look at what Baekyung had to do, only to make sure he won’t do even more. I wans’t satisfied by this and i don’t see how he can get a great punishment if they only want peace.
I’m kind of disgusted by the cover. Uke was raped, brutalled raped (getting raped with pieces of glads on his back). He distanced himself from everyone and had suicidal thoughts. Then the psycho tried to control the Chiwoo’s life AGAIN. He tried to destroy Chiwoo’s last hope.
AND NOW YOU PUT THAT GUY LICKING CHIWOO ON THE COVER.
Can’t the author just make him stay away from Chiwoo. And if the author is craving for a sex scene for crazy rapist, how about with someone else....
It’s kind of sad many stories are destroyed by the clichés. And i’m not feeling any good plot with this cover. Well... i hope the smut will be worth it atleast.
IKR!!!! Hope he can fck off and get some life
Please someone explain me something (INCOMING SPOILER)
Ishiaki(i think thats close to his name) is the one that hired Seiji’s company, right?
So how come did he not know about Seiji’s existence?
Seiji’s boss knew that the MC in love with Ishiaki, which is why she made Seiji look like him. Why would Ishiaki tell her about that if it wasn’t because he knew she had an employee that looked like him.
ALSO, Ishiaki claimed that he HAD to get rid of both Fujiwara AND hiroki. But then before the scandal, he proposed Hiroki to join him, why??? Why did he even need to get rid of Hiroki and why did it become important to make Hiroki his ally. Wtf happened with the plot at the end, i dont get it.
Yoshiaki probably hired Seiji through contacting his boss directly. That would explain why he doesn't know who was the specific agent the boss sent out for his request. The boss dressed up Seiji according to the info Yoshiaki gave (aka Hiroki liking him/his looks)
Yoshiaki claimed that he had to get rid of Hiroki bcs he gets in the way of his ambition (aka that monologue after sex). However, since he got dirt on Hiroki (the dna test proof) he might have wanted to use it to force/control Hiroki to obey him instead. Kind of like he wanted to get rid of him but since he seems useful and I got something to use against him, why not make him my ally instead.
Well thanks for answering but i dont see how it makes sense
Yoshiaki hiring people to spy on someome :
*i want you to look into Hiroki, this guy is in love with me so make one of your employee look like me to get the info*
You understand it’s kind of weird that he would propose something like that...
It would be more logic if he already knew about Seiji, and realizing they were like twins, suggesting the plan.
Also, when Yoshiaki proposed to Hiroki to join him. The dirt he had on Hiroki was also the dirt he had on Hiroki’s dad. And he HAD to take down his dad, so there was no way the plan could work.