Viira April 1, 2018 4:16 am

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I'll never like Rogi. He's just an utter shit human being. Total garbage through and through. Even after everything, he still rapes their kid. Like fuck him forever, you can never redeem Rogi in my eyes and tbh I don't think you're even supposed to like him. But really, I can't get over that he raped their kid. I really can't. If he hadn't done that I could get over him but its too far and I think the author is minimizing it too much.

    mimi_love April 2, 2018 1:16 am

    I hate him too because of that

    genesis707 April 3, 2018 6:27 pm

    Rogi might be interesting and complex as a character but sorry I can never like selfish douchbags like Rogi no matter what. Your past does not give you the right to ruin someone else's life.

    Viira April 4, 2018 4:20 am
    Rogi might be interesting and complex as a character but sorry I can never like selfish douchbags like Rogi no matter what. Your past does not give you the right to ruin someone else's life. genesis707

    I agree with you. Its not like its not interesting to read about a person like him because people like him do exist, but people on here are going crazy for him despite the fact that if he acted like this irl people would find him disgusting and would have absolutely nothing to do with him. If they actually met a person like this, or a person like this came a fucked their husband or kid, they would not appreciate his "complexity" or rationalize his actions as a result of his past. The author's whole point is supposed to be that Rogi sucks. He's childish, selfish, and self loathing. He lies to himself and desperately chases after false "ideals" in order to not deal with his own personal issues and self loathing. He will hurt anybody in these pursuits and doesn't really care. He IS a bad person. An interesting character, but he sucks...because he's supposed to. He's not supposed to be redeemed through his past. Its an explanation, not a reason. His reasons lie within himself- his narcissism, his self loathing, his desperation for outside approval to validate himself, his selfishness, etc. He does this horrible shit not because he had a hard life, but because he chose to keep running and hurting others. There is no excuse. He made his choices and readers should be able to understand him and still hate him.

    Anonymous April 4, 2018 2:44 pm
    I agree with you. Its not like its not interesting to read about a person like him because people like him do exist, but people on here are going crazy for him despite the fact that if he acted like this irl pe... Viira

    1) Of course no one wants to deal with someone like this in real life. That's why people read books/watch movies. Do you want to join the yakuza? Of course not. But nobody makes these complaints about the myriad yakuza stories.

    2) That is NOT the whole point of the story. The point of the story is that every person has worth. You and readers like you prove the need for stories like this. I suppose it's hopeful that you're reading at all. I hope you'll check in at the end and let us know if your feelings have changed. If you are honest enough to do so.

    Viira April 5, 2018 7:55 pm
    1) Of course no one wants to deal with someone like this in real life. That's why people read books/watch movies. Do you want to join the yakuza? Of course not. But nobody makes these complaints about the myria... @Anonymous

    You need to get off your high horse. I love reading stories about human nature and especially about flawed individuals and stories that dig into the inherent negativity and depravity we all have somewhere within us as human beings. But I'm not like 14 anymore and have experienced the real world and know that no, not every person does have worth. Some people's bad outweighs their good. Some people are out there raping and murdering kids, what worth do they have in society? A lot of them are wealthy CEOs, pretty sure the economy and world would keep turning without them. I could talk to you all damn day about well written flawed characters. Unfortunately, my biggest turn off is being depraved enough to rape somebody whose damn diaper you've changed. Sorry that it makes me think about pedophila and makes me really upset...? Of course I'll probably be more into Rogi by the end once the author has pulled some strings and made me feel bad for him again. I don't have to think Rogi is a good person to enjoy this story or stories about people with hard lives and difficult decisions. But having a hard life doesn't give you an excuse to put more bad into the world. A lot of people go through hard times, suffer, and are abused and don't choose to go inflict that pain onto other people. Rogi is a slave to his whims and desires, especially in the phase of his life we're seeing in these flashbacks. He completely let go of his moral compass to try to chase any form of happiness. He's willing to do whatever he can in order to try to grasp at some form of validation from another person despite us all knowing it comes from within.(Akitora was "nice" to him--in his mind. In actuality he doesn't really give a shit about Rogi more than he does any other person or plaything he has ever had.) Too bad he doesn't realize that will never make him happy and that he could've gotten what he wanted much faster/easier if he'd just chosen to try to better himself and be healthy and happy in a way that doesn't have to drag others down. Anyway, there are tons of stories about people being major fuck ups that don't go so far as to rape their "lovers" kid. Idk go try A Separate Peace or something, stop reading so much manga that it minimizes your view on rape :/

    Anonymous April 13, 2018 3:17 am
    You need to get off your high horse. I love reading stories about human nature and especially about flawed individuals and stories that dig into the inherent negativity and depravity we all have somewhere withi... Viira

    Um please stop saying he could have chosen a different life, that is like saying he chose to be raped by Akitora. All the other points I 100% agree with, though.

    Anonymous April 13, 2018 3:20 am
    I agree with you. Its not like its not interesting to read about a person like him because people like him do exist, but people on here are going crazy for him despite the fact that if he acted like this irl pe... Viira

    Same with Akitora, then and all the rest of the characters. No characters were happy because of the happy life they had, eithet. They only chose it. Their happy life previously is irrelevant.

Viira April 1, 2018 3:56 am

This is hands down one of the best manga's I've ever read

Viira March 29, 2018 11:54 pm

This is all sorts of fucked up. I mean I've seen a lot of messed up stories, but this one is really up there. Most are fucked up in how explicit or grotesque they become...but this has all sorts of fucked up connotations about slavery, trafficking, pedophilia...on top of that they took this kid and basically made him mentally challenged/ gave him extreme brain damage then altered his body. On top of making him a sex slave, of course.They stole his humanity and trapped him in a shell, then to make it worse they take away his human rights and rape him. This shit is why Im so against sex robots being made. Its just blurs lines and lets people indulge in sexual deviancy and perversion that they wouldn't have otherwise. Don't buy into the bullshit that it will be an outlet FOR sexual deviants/rapists/pedophiles--it will only make more and degrade human social skills. It also objectifies human beings. We're making so much progress to leave a history of that behind only to take a huge step back with sex robots??

Viira March 16, 2018 3:51 am

Im embarrassed for him lol. Like he's talking to another person as if he was dating this BIRD he never even had a relationship with...and that person KNOWS IT lmao

    monsterpop March 16, 2018 4:55 am

    lmao bless you!! thought I was the only one

    bakedpotato March 16, 2018 3:46 pm

    this is like the bee movie but like a bird

    lephist March 17, 2018 12:34 am
    this is like the bee movie but like a bird bakedpotato

    bird movie

    Kiyotake March 21, 2018 7:57 am

    but in the end he is the bird and he likes him back so it's all okay hah

Viira March 8, 2018 5:54 pm

Not gonna read anymore chapters until this is fucking finished because I refuse to waste my fucking time and sanity and happiness on the manga if Shou forgives or goes easy on Fuku at all. If Fuku doesn't get fucked up by the end of this story I honestly might be done with Harada completely because she really missed the tone with her audience this time around. Even loyal Harada fans thought this would be about Fuku's suffering in the end. If things work out "peacefully" Im just done here

    latte March 8, 2018 6:31 pm

    I really like how Harada handles Nii-chan for example, and this was REALLY good up until last chapter. Harada had always been using the horror framing the whole series but suddenly they shifted the nuance halfway on the latest chapter??? It's weird.

    Viira March 12, 2018 4:23 am
    I really like how Harada handles Nii-chan for example, and this was REALLY good up until last chapter. Harada had always been using the horror framing the whole series but suddenly they shifted the nuance halfw... latte

    I think Nii-chan atmosphere shifts definitely were very present and noticeable, but I can admire the experimentation going on in her work there. She was having a lot of thoughts about what direction to take the work in and I think thats present in the work since it started off as a one shot with one kind of tone established and then she ended up deciding to take it further and didn't commit to that original tone in order to explore new things. It wasn't perfect, but it artwork never is. I wasn't super involved in that storyline as much as I was here (I mean, it feels like this story in particular has been very unique with its viewers because it feels like this is the most strongly we've felt about any of her characters so far). But because this one has been unique like that, it feels like we're getting tossed around a lot. Maybe its because we all have so many ideas about what we want the story to be this time around whereas with other stories of hers it feels like we've just been along with the ride. I think people are more deeply engaged in these characters than ones in the past so its hard to accept the different things she may be trying out.

Viira March 5, 2018 9:56 am

What a beautiful and refreshing manga. Really a nice thoughtful story that cares about its characters. Its mature and lovely. Where was this manga when a was in high school trying to figure life out!?

Viira March 4, 2018 9:30 pm

This manga is so good, I'm so excited for every new chapter. I'm looking forward to the next one especially!! Also, I hope soon we will get to see the trans child from the earlier chapters, I'm worried about them

Viira March 4, 2018 11:33 am

What an incredibly rushed ending...still, it was a fun read

Viira February 27, 2018 7:22 am

An interesting and original horror manga with beautiful art.....ugh, I'm in love with this author.

Viira February 25, 2018 9:14 pm

You're.....you're fucking telling me.....we could've had this whole thing with lesbians...? HOW COULD SHE ROB US OF THIS. WE NEVER GET ANYTHING LIKE THIS. HARIBO HOOOOOOW
whyyyyyy (/TДT)/

    Eins&Z February 25, 2018 9:30 pm

    I don't think so. She said that there's no drawing for Woojin because she doesn't know how to draw men at that time. This was probably shoujo turned to a bl webtoon

    ZenRyu February 25, 2018 10:10 pm
    I don't think so. She said that there's no drawing for Woojin because she doesn't know how to draw men at that time. This was probably shoujo turned to a bl webtoon Eins&Z

    Yep yep.. I think so too..

    Viira February 25, 2018 10:44 pm
    I don't think so. She said that there's no drawing for Woojin because she doesn't know how to draw men at that time. This was probably shoujo turned to a bl webtoon Eins&Z

    I still think it could've been really interesting to see with a mostly female cast. You never get to see stories like this, full of women. Its always a bunch of gay pretty boys written by straight women. Why not represent women being badass more often?? We always see intense shounen or bl plots but never get to see badass ladies. I still can't forgive her for taking those hot lady designs away from me ╥﹏╥

    also the few manga or manhwa with casts of badass or dominant women always actually being very successful/ popular with women, so come on ladies!! Its about freaking time we make some smut WITH women FOR women. Please ╥﹏╥

    Anonymous February 26, 2018 6:29 am
    I still think it could've been really interesting to see with a mostly female cast. You never get to see stories like this, full of women. Its always a bunch of gay pretty boys written by straight women. Why no... Viira

    omg i know!! it would've been really cool to read this with an all female cast! especially with this type of plot plus some gl?? what a missed opportunity!

    Viira February 27, 2018 7:06 am
    omg i know!! it would've been really cool to read this with an all female cast! especially with this type of plot plus some gl?? what a missed opportunity! @Anonymous

    Yes!! It really was! I'm excited for the day that some of these female creators realize they can write about cool ladies and girls will still be excited to read the stories. They'll also get a male following!! Lady creators have an awesome opportunity in this case to write women they want to read about that also portrays women that aren't like the women typically written-- they can write real and dimensional women with real urges and desires. Its good for male and female audiences alike! I've found a couple of manhwa that are starting to embrace this more so it would be really cool if this author made her next manwha with women!

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