I know people don't like Yuna but I honestly do. She is so cute and an incredibly loyal person. Pure hearted to a fault. It's easy to see why all these women are falling for her.
I am so lost on how Ripley getting kidnapped is her causing trouble for others? Is there something I am missing? Did she organize her own kidnapping or didn't she just follow a maid in her own household?
It’s because they don’t know she’s been kidnapped. Ripley is known for like sneaking out and running away. So like Ripley going out by herself and getting kidnapped is “the maid’s” fault since she is always the only in on her plans.
Its because the duke asks Silvia to keep her eyes on Ingrid. So if Ingrid is missing it will be likely the Duke will blame Silvia
My statement is actually contradicting itself oml. Ignore the first statement. This is just my opinion for all we know they could be faking the dramatic scene with the maid to lure her in a false sense of security and capture uer
But Ripley has never run away from home? She tried to end the Duke's engagement but none of that involved her disappearing from home. I really don't see how this can make the Duke think Ripley is avoiding him. Furthermore, before, Ripley had never told the Duke how she felt. But now, she has confessed. So the situation before is very different from now.
I guess we will see how it pans out. I just get a bit confused as to how she is being blamed for being kidnapped. There is also the fact that she is being blamed for refusing the Duke's marriage before. It is like people are against a woman saying no.
The duke asked Silvia to keep an eye on Ripley so she doesnt escape and go to work on her business project with Etoile instead of preparing for the wedding. Silvia even said to Ripley "you can leave if you dont care that i get my throat slit" because the duke has been pressuring both Ripley and Silvia.
Now Ripley has been kidnapped but nobody saw her/know that (it was night and it was a unknown maid who baited her). So it is possible that the duke is gonna think that Ripkey went to work and Silvia failed to keep her from going to work thus failing her mission to keep an eye on Ripley thus risking to get her "throat slit".
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...that Estrella died, then I love this story all the more. It makes sense that a baby that was abandoned after birth would not be able to survive by itself. This story is panning out much better than I thought. I love it.
I just know my heart is going to be broken. The main character never picks the second lead. Joy is so much better for her. I am not a fan of unrequited love who only learns to return your feelings when someone else values you.
But it is a running trope in all stories from Manga, novels and movies. I was counting on the fact that she kissed Joy first that maybe, just maybe she is the end game.
Dahye's habit of dragging men into their meetings is what makes me not support her. Even when you are platonic girlfriends, friends who do that usually suck.
Anyway, I suspect our Joy is gonna be left in the dust.
Yuna, you are not letting that hotness go because of freaking Dahye! Leave that man lover and get into the car.
I swear if she chooses Dahye, imma scream.
Someone said the endgame is Dahye, leaving joy broke TT,I WISH IT'S NOT TRUE.Joy seem she really likes Yuna
Omg I'm so sorry i meant to upvote
Story is still on-going, so Yuna could still end up with anyone.
Yeah, I am not liking it. It does not sit well with my spirit when men try to dominate partners they presume as having more ego than them. He is using his own insecurities as a Beta against Chowon who is a dominant Omega. Semes in this manga seem to think with their dick except for Dojun.
Wait, Judas is not a father figure but the ML? Alright folks, I am out of here! Don't bash people who are not onboard with this. It's weird that such a young girl, 14 is introduced to such an older ML who raises her then proceeds to date her. It's weird. Might not be grooming by Judas, but it is active grooming by the author. The author has no business introducing such a young girl to a parent figure then casting the parental figure as a romance interest. It's wrong and holds the same energy as marrying off 10-16 year old girls to old men like the old days.
There is grooming. But by the author.
yes ure totally right
and i accidentally dislike sorry
Wdym he's the ml, thats messed up bro ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
it's gross
I was just reading the summary and he called a 14yo a vixen?? how?? she's just being her normal adorable self. it's weird and irresponsible to market this as harmless. you're right but unfortunately
Vixen??
Thats...
Right?? Like really, I can't see Judas as a love interest moreover, any of the males so far, Idel has children, Antioch is married and Judas just looks and acts like the typical cold but gets sweeter tyrant dad
I don't know what is it but the large age gap plus the fact that Judas is the guardian of the FL, and she sees him as a parent just rubs me wrong
Right?? Like really, I can't see Judas as a love interest moreover, any of the males so far, Idel has children, Antioch is married and Judas just looks and acts like the typical cold but gets sweeter tyrant dad
I don't know what is it but the large age gap plus the fact that Judas is the guardian of the FL, and she sees him as a parent and they're both supposed to be a couple just rubs me wrong
I don't think he is the ML all I feel is that the "love" she shows him is not the kind of love in like a relationship but more as a person who shows a caring side towards her or as one of the only people who have shown her kindness. Not all stories like this have to have a ML or be a romantic story but more of a slice of life story
Also it wasn't uncommon in times like this in the past to have big age gaps in marriages because they were all political. And it's still to early in the story to even say he's the Male lead.
Just out of curiosity, how do y'all feel about The Tyrant's Guardian Is an Evil Witch? It's kind of a similar relationship except the guardian is a woman instead (and vice versa)? Just asking cause I don't see many comments like these about that work.
personally I stopped reading it when it became evident that he was the ML.
if I had to guess, I would say people are more partial to pairings with omnipotent/supernatural lovers like in the title you've suggested.
to add on nobody really talked about The Ancient Magus' Bride, Twilight etc. to me people seem to be fine as long as the lover in the pairing is supernatural
If that's the case then since he seems to be "supernatural" because he's not human doesn't that mean it would also apply? If you apply it to one thing it shouldn't it apply to other's that are similar?
It should apply. These 100 or even 1000 year old fossils have no business creeping on teenage girls. From Twilight to Vampire Diaries. These are 100 year old adults. Age is more than appearance. It is a lived experience, years. You are 100 or 1000 whether you look 16 or otherwise. It is all wrong. I feel like the fiction world, be it film or writing likes taking advantage of teenage girls.
But how has her uncle in any way been weird like that? Yes age gaps may be weird to you but lots of relationships are like that, I don't with underage kids being eith older people but we also have to take in the fact that this is based on an era where this was common.
But how has her uncle in any way been weird like that? Yes age gaps may be weird to you but lots of relationships are like that, I don't agree with underage kids being with older people but we also have to take in the fact that this is based on an era where this was common
It is exactly like you said. Her uncle. He should not be her romantic interest. That is what I have seen the spoilers say. That he ends up as her romantic partner. If that is the case, the author is grooming the girl. Nobody should raise a kid then later on date them.
You say she's grooming her when this is a work of fiction, nothing in this is real and like I've said it was common for this sort of thing in the past doesn't make it right. Now a days you see it a lot in shows that do the same yet no one speaks on that, if your going to call this grooming then what of shows that do the same but also involve living, breathing people? Not characters that only exist on paper or in writing? A lot of people argue that it effects how people think and to be honest if something like a fake story can make actual people actually try grooming then they already had something wrong with them. If your not comfortable with it then that's fine, just don't bash people for liking or reading it because they know that it's fiction and they know that it stays fiction. Also please don't think I'm trying to be rude I'm just speaking my mind and have nothing against those who dislike it.
no pls ikr i don’t read it because i felt uncomfortable with how the route was going
Where have I bashed people for liking it? My initial comment said 'don't bash people for not liking it'. Also, what an incredible argument. You think we shouldn't complain about this because there are other shows/movies that people don't complain about? How do you know I am not complaining about them? This is a manga site. I will air my views about the manga I am currently reading at the site the manga is at. The logic that because someone is doing something bad or worse out there that we should let it slide is so weird to me.
Second, fiction does not make it removed from reality. Fiction shapes the world. When something is portrayed in fiction, people in irl can internalize that. For example, black people were portrayed in Hollywood as violent for decades. This led to the believe that black people are indeed violent hence antiblackness intensified around the world.
The author groomed that girl. Introduced her to a parent figure, sets the parent figure to date her eventually. That is sick. There are no two ways about it.
Just like who rape in yaoi is normalized, young teen girls partnering with old men is also normalized. Hence Twilight, Vampire Diaries. These are the consequences of a patriarchal world.
Trust me we will not see this on a movie and think, oh that's okay. Wherever I meet the story, I will have an issue with it. I am not selective. Whether boy or girl, no parental figure should be romantically involved with a kid they raise.
If you enjoy it that's on you. So many others are enjoying it as well. I for one thought it was going to be a cute father-daughter/guardian-daughter relationship before finding out the spoilers.
purr the fact people don’t see issue with it shows how much they’re desensitized to it because of how much they consume those bs in name of fiction, the fact u feel comfortable with shipping a literal child ( idgaf abt time skip she looks like a child ) with a man who has this parent-daughter dynamics says enough. It hasn’t even been confirmed if he’s the ml, so I’m not bashing the author rather people who want judas to be ml. if the author does take that route i’ll drop it, and rate it low both here and the actual place.
Honestly, I don't trust Tristan. Maybe he fell in love with Gaspal and is being used. However, a suspicious part of me thinks he is not loyal. I feel like if Ivona takes him in, he will try to seduce the duke.
Obvioulsy he isnt to be trusted did you not read the chapter about the past.
Gaspal is stupid, too stupid to use Tristan.
Tristan is the "smart" one. He praised and fawned over gaspal, who wanted to be praised, recognized and idolized by everyone. Tristan tried to use ivona to make gaspal the golden summoner so Gaspal could become (a puppet) emperor while tristan wielded all the power. Practically whispering in the emperor's ear what he wants to happen.
I am looking at it from the perspective of the present. As in he could be desperate because he wanted attention and maybe if given any he might not turn out such a bad person. This is also in response to another comment by a reader wondering if Tristan is actually bad or just influenced by Gaspal and circumstances.
Obviously, I did read the past, but this is the present. So things could take a different turn. That's what I was questioning. Ended up concluding he might not be a victim of circumstances.
idk if you have read painter of the night...but it is almost like the nobleman there...just staying behind the scenes so someone else becomes the villain....I think Tristan is doing the same
I don't think that anwser is straightforward. Tristan is obsessed with become an influential person since he came from a poor family while his uncle was stupid and wealthy. He didn't understand why his father who was a better or smarter person couldn't inherit the title. He himself wants to climb the ranks as much as possible. He's pretty smart and instead of showing of his talents he decides to remain in the shadow and try to climb the ranks by trying to gain favor with the two candidates for the throne but Agentine is never interested in anything so he chose Gaspal. He probably has a lot of insecurities too, so when Ivona praised him he was genuinely happy. I think he will stop at nothing to prove himself and to climb the ranks so whether it's good or bad he will go for what is most beneficial to him.
Yeah it's similar. I think he smart and cunning enough to use people but I'm don't think he's exceptionally smart.
he just sees the present benefits...so he is kind of dumb
That why I was saying he will end up seducing the duke. The whole thought process was examining whether he was an actual villain or not. That's why I came to the conclusion that he wasn't exactly a victim of circumstances but someone who could take advantage of others while posing as weak. Basically my original point. 'He might attempt to seduce the Duke if Ivona takes him in'. Whatever plan she has.
That could be possible.
The spoilers that were given have changed the story so much for me. I still love it. It is just kinda...
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...sad to think that this is all a dream or wish after she died at 45. Like some sort of wishful thinking of how her life might have been. That the 'dreams' are her actual life.
WHAT NO WAY
Is this for real??????? Omg that's so sad ಥ_ಥ
I hate myself for reading this bs(´༎Д༎`)
But srsly,,, is this truuu????(｡•︿•｡)
Fr?
but that’s not true though. it’s really left for interpretation of whether you think god turned back time for them to be together to unite the two or it was a dream since they are beings that can’t dream
No- omg you’re lying.. I was told it was a happy ending.. don’t this to me
This is her first life not presently.God give her chances to dream (live) again for her to have a new nice beginning with Kuhn
ah... so that's why it's titled the great wish?
Yep the god let her see(dream) about her future in another dimension. Means like alternate dimension~
You know who made me a princess have that side story where Lucas go to another dimension
Which Diana alive with claude and athy
Or dimension where athy and ijekiel get marry
Idk how to explain sorry.
But if you read Lucia novel you will understand a little bit what I meant.
Cus the author are the same who wrote Lucia.
no, pretty sure its like a second life/alt dimension. She wished for a dream, but the gods did allow her a renewed life.
Yeah it's like a "turn back time" kind of story aexcept she doesn't know that she turned back time and all she remembers from her prev life are the memories of that one day.God gave her one last wish before dying and she wished she could go back in time and make everything right so that happened.