SeekingSanity November 19, 2019 2:26 pm

There is a strange troll here. Down the page I posted a comment on my opinion of this story and speculation about it's direction. Then a troll posted there dragging users for liking it. I deleted their replies because they were obviously ranting. Now they reposted my comment as "anonymous" just so they could spam it non-stop with their own rant replies. They have spammed their copy of my post with over five replies, probably more by now.

I can't prove it was them that reposted my comment as "anonymous" or if it really was a harmless anon user who didn't know better. However, the fact that they are spam replying seems like a giveaway.

I wish we could just go back to discussing the story. It's too bad that this thread is troubled with trolls. But I've always found you have to fight the trolls or it gets worse.

    Sakata Ginko November 20, 2019 6:38 am

    Just ignore it. I noticed it as well. They're spamming topics non stop, it getting really annoying.

    SeekingSanity November 20, 2019 7:35 am
    Just ignore it. I noticed it as well. They're spamming topics non stop, it getting really annoying. Sakata Ginko

    Yeah, I tried to delete this comment I wrote a couple hours later but it's still here. Oh well. But yeah, you're right.

SeekingSanity November 19, 2019 8:05 am

Can I just say that this author is amazing? No only is her art skill through the roof but so is her storytelling. From such a simple premise she weaves in so much.

I mean it's basically, "Porn addict hires his favorite porn maker to make him exclusive porn, then falls for porn maker. Drama ensues," yet somehow it's great.

Really good storytellers don't play it safe. They don't avoid an idea because some fans might not like it. They go where the story is and tell the tale that readers really want to hear. The story that keeps us wanting more.

This is a story about one moral person trapped among very immoral people. Of course, the immoral will do immoral stuff. It'd be boring if they were moral people. For one thing, if Yoon was a moral person he'd not be keeping Na Kyum captive and he wouldn't be so desperate for the Painter's porn. Yoon was never written as a good guy anymore than Hannibal Lecter was written as good.

What we really want to see is if Yoon can be changed. If the Painter's influence can turn him from the rotten scum he is now into someone halfway human. The author gives us glimpses of what a good Yoon would look like, but it's ten steps backward and one step forward. We keep hoping he's not beyond redemption, but our hopes get dashed everytime so far.

When faced with a moral choice, Yoon chooses to be immoral. Yet slowly, we get a hint here and there that maybe he wants to rejoin humanity. That maybe he does want to be someone who is worthy of being loved. Unfortunately, yet again he smashes painter's face into the floor and our hopes of his redemption are once more put back on the shelf.

The author teases this hope out of us. This is what makes for masterful fiction. We keep hoping that maybe, just maybe, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

We'll see.

    JUNna November 19, 2019 10:59 am

    I like your analysis on this manhwa. Yes, I love the storytelling.

    'The author gives us glimpses of what a good Yoon would look like'

    If you don't mind, could please elaborate which part do you think Yoon showed some goodness.

    My favorite part is when he patted sleeping Na-kyum in chapter 2. He had a concerned look.

    Anonymous November 19, 2019 11:12 am
    I like your analysis on this manhwa. Yes, I love the storytelling.'The author gives us glimpses of what a good Yoon would look like'If you don't mind, could please elaborate which part do you think Yoon showed ... @JUNna

    He patted sleeping Nakyum on ch 2 is also one of my favorite, but all my friends have missed that. Hahaha when I told them about it, they all went back and was... "Whoaaa! He patted the painter like the painter is so soft."

    SeekingSanity November 19, 2019 11:39 am
    I like your analysis on this manhwa. Yes, I love the storytelling.'The author gives us glimpses of what a good Yoon would look like'If you don't mind, could please elaborate which part do you think Yoon showed ... @JUNna

    I think Yoon showed potential in how he confronted the teacher. He sees right through the teacher. The Painter has a nasty habit of trusting the wrong people. The Painter didn't see the threat when the redhead brought him snacks. He doesn't seem able to read people or recognize the warning signs that they intend to harm him.

    The Painter idolizes his teacher. He grew up in a brothel, yet can't recognize scum when he sees it. The owner of the brothel must've sheltered him a lot from the clientele that traffics those places for the Painter to end up so innocent.

    Yoon grew up in a privileged world, but surrounded by vipers. It was eat or be eaten. Trust no one. Hurt them before they hurt you. That's how the world is. No one is nice without an agenda.

    I think Yoon is baffled by the innocence and naiveté of the Painter. If you grow up among liars, a truly honest person would be confusing. You'd assume they're just a really good liar or a complete idiot.

    Yoon can see as clear as day that the teacher is an absolute snake. He knows because they share that trait. The Painter is just a little bunny hopping around, trusting the vipers not to hurt him.

    Yoon's is very intelligent and far more learned than the teacher and he knows how to play the game. If he used his talent for more than just destruction and getting off, he could be an incredible force for good. He could really save the Painter from that shady teacher.

    I think Yoon wants to believe in goodness and I think he wants to stop being a monster, but he has no faith in that kind of thinking. Good people get devoured. That's the world to him. I think he felt nothing wrong with killing or destroying other people because they were all as rotten as him. But it's different with the Painter.

    That's my take.

    JUNna November 19, 2019 11:58 am
    I think Yoon showed potential in how he confronted the teacher. He sees right through the teacher. The Painter has a nasty habit of trusting the wrong people. The Painter didn't see the threat when the redhead ... SeekingSanity

    Thank you for the long reply. I always wonder what kind life Na-kyum had gone through in the brothel. Who knows he might meet his biological parents later in this story.

    Anonymous November 19, 2019 12:27 pm
    This reply was deleted by the author of the post @Anonymous

    Get lost...We don't need a woke person here.

    SeekingSanity November 19, 2019 12:28 pm
    This reply was deleted by the author of the post @Anonymous

    Why are you reading something you hate? That's silly. That's like complaining, "Ugh, these tropes about villains in movies are so overused and absurd!"

    No one is making you read it. Instead you waste your time reading something just to whine and moan.

    Stop being such a baby. There are plenty of non-yaoi stories out there that you can read since you clearly hate the genre so much.

    SeekingSanity November 19, 2019 12:31 pm
    Why are you reading something you hate? That's silly. That's like complaining, "Ugh, these tropes about villains in movies are so overused and absurd!" No one is making you read it. Instead you waste your time ... SeekingSanity

    Oops. Ignore this last post. There was a mistake in where this reply was posted.

SeekingSanity November 17, 2019 12:34 am

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I saw 33. I can't help but feel that the MC is not quite prepared for how wild his alpha will go during his rut. But he wants to try anyway so big kudos to the MC for being so daring.

SeekingSanity November 15, 2019 2:26 pm

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I think what set Seungho off in the latest was when Na-Kyum (if I understand correctly) said something along the lines of "It can't be you!"

Seungho's ego can't handle being rejected by a peasant of all people. As far as he sees things, it's a privilege to get to sleep with him. He can't handle Na-Kyum's rejection.

I don't think he actually raped Na-kyum in this scene. I think the author made it look like he did with Na-Kyum being left naked with only his jacket on him. I think Seungho wanted to do that, but it'll turn out in the next chapter that he stopped short of that.

From his expression in the bath, he does seem to be showing some regret (still doesn't justify slamming Na-Kyum's face in the floor).

Seungho has gotten mostly everything he wanted. The author seems to be setting up that Seungho has everything the teacher wants, yet the teacher has the one thing that Seungho is starting to want very badly.

This will probably motivate Na-Kyum to help spy for the teacher.

    Anonymous November 15, 2019 2:42 pm

    Oh thank you. So yoon can’t take his rejection and I also noticed about the two men wanting what the other has

    xMorfium November 15, 2019 3:01 pm

    There’s actually a part when he grabs the painter by the hips and do him for behind...

    Anonymous November 15, 2019 3:08 pm
    There’s actually a part when he grabs the painter by the hips and do him for behind... xMorfium

    and he's also naked when the servant found him

    SeekingSanity November 15, 2019 11:46 pm
    and he's also naked when the servant found him @Anonymous

    Yes, it means he stripped him but we don't know yet what went on. The author is a very skilled trickster. It's a common trick in a story. Show a character about to murder someone. Then flash to someone lying on the ground looking like they've been stabbed (but they are covered with someone to hide any sight of a wound) only to reveal in the next chapter that the person didn't stab them. Only came close.

    It's a trick to keep the readers hooked and reading. I am not saying whether it did or didn't. My opinion is that it didn't. This chapter showed Yoon pull the kid against his hips but not actual penetration. It does a lot to really really make us think it happened without showing that it happened.

    This author has never shied from the graphic details of sex before, yet now is leaving it ambiguous? That likely means it didn't go that far but she wants her readers to keep reading to find out the truth.

    So my opinion is that it didn't. Next chapter will reveal who got it right. So place your bet!

SeekingSanity November 10, 2019 1:26 pm

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So minhoon had Gunchan coming along with him to Europe and Father didn't like that but couldn't admit it. But he's pissed because he wants Gunchan to stay close, not be dragged off by Minhoon. He also doesn't want to admit how much he wants Gunchan by his side, yet he clearly his like, "Minhoon, you b***. How dare you take my Gunchan with you!"

SeekingSanity November 9, 2019 2:24 pm

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So why did the Shady Teacher need to drag the painter into an alley for a rushed conversation? Why not just wait till they're back at the mansion like before.

I suspect the reason is because of Yoon. Notice how fast the servant tracked down the Painter and dragged him away from the Teacher, looking very miffed they'd been alone.

Yoon has probably told the servant to make sure to keep those two apart. Yoon doesn't want the teacher and Painter meeting alone. So the teacher had to do that to talk in private with the Painter when servants weren't spying on them. There are ears everywhere in the mansion.

Then of chapter 24 jumped a little ahead in time to give a cliffhanger. No doubt ch25 will be a flashback to what led to Yoon tying up the painter like that.

It's very clear Yoon lusts for the Painter. He doesn't want the teacher interfering, but he can't send him away since that's his leverage over the Painter. Instead he relies now on the servant to make sure those two aren't alone.

    milocchi November 9, 2019 3:37 pm

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    Thank you for always brighten my mind!

    The cliffhanger is exactly the same as my mind! Ch 25 will explain what happens. It's a slow pace but in good way. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

SeekingSanity November 3, 2019 2:58 am

I wish the author had made one set of brothers' dark haired and one blond. That would've made more sense and been easier to follow. Flipping them is just more confusing.

    大口 November 3, 2019 3:20 am

    Blonde hair is omega, black hair is alpha.

    TinyTokyo22 November 3, 2019 1:07 pm
    Blonde hair is omega, black hair is alpha. 大口

    Not true, Matthew the friend is an alpha and he has blonde hair.

    YaoiReader November 3, 2019 1:55 pm

    Same ahahahha

    大口 November 3, 2019 5:13 pm
    Not true, Matthew the friend is an alpha and he has blonde hair. TinyTokyo22

    No , i didn't type" every " blond is omega. I just tells about ian and miho is the omega one with blond hair . And the black hair is alph(jaeho and jihwan). Because these guy is the confusing one .

    大口 November 3, 2019 5:20 pm
    No , i didn't type" every " blond is omega. I just tells about ian and miho is the omega one with blond hair . And the black hair is alph(jaeho and jihwan). Because these guy is the confusing one . 大口

    I'm confused too , jihwan and ian is a family but has different hair colour and so the other side family . And everytime i read this , i always think jihwan and ian is to be pair , i always mistook him with jaeho .

SeekingSanity November 1, 2019 1:15 pm

So...

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Heaven is being locked up in a windowless room, made to have sex even if its hurting, having your requests ignored in favor of what your sex partner says will really make you happy because "HE knows best". Sure.

The MC is mistaking comfort as great. But eventually all that is boring. Does he do anything else? He can't even use the internet. Does he get a TV? It seems rather boring and lonely.

I'd say its like being locked in a Gilded Cage. It's eventually a hell.

I think the MC will get stockholm syndrome eventually. That seems to be his "owner's" goal. He wants to make his canary obey and won't let him go until he signs away his freedom.

The writer is really, really trying to push that the MC is just so chill that he takes all this like "..." It makes no sense.

Just the sheer hours of boredom would make most miserable. And humans need sunlight!

    T-Chan lol November 1, 2019 2:38 pm

    Stockholm Syndrom is when you fall in love while being held captive etc. but it would also bore me to death. (๑・◡・๑)

    Slurp November 1, 2019 4:18 pm

    Well, people are willing to do stuff for the one they love and since he truly loves him, even if he can't ever date him, he feels that having sex with him and seeing him everyday is enough for him. That's why he feels like he's in heaven. Because he loves him.

SeekingSanity October 26, 2019 7:07 am

"There's poison in it".

*He drinks it all and says, "I did it for you."*

Canaria: Did you need to drink it... all? How about just a gulp and then discretely spit out in a plant?

*Prince, "..." "... sh*t".

    Nara-Chan October 26, 2019 12:42 pm

    Exactly

    Linni October 26, 2019 1:07 pm

    Probably needed a legit reaction XD

SeekingSanity October 26, 2019 6:53 am

So Yama set it up to leave Eun Joo wide open for Hwan.

Hwan will try to eat the MC.

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However, I do think Yama will send those reapers. I mean he wants Hwan. If he just lets the MC get eaten, Hwan will become incredibly strong and be impossible to capture. He likely wanted to leave the MC completely open to push Hwan to come out.

He doesn't care if the MC dies, as long as they can catch Hwan. But the reapers will come. There's no point in wasting the only real bait they have for Hwan.

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