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Nobody said Harukawa's actions were right-- I don't even find comments defending his actions.

You're saying don't judge the ex but you're putting words into our mouths saying we likely never had to experience it. BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DID, I for one did, so you too do not have the right to tell us otherwise.

The thing is, fear, anxiety, backlash, it's normal we get it. He (the ex) was immature-- BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S OKAY. So we just go "oh he's young and scared, so it's okay that he inflicted PTSD on matsuri"? That's not how it works.

Young or not, he NEEDS to know that his actions brought negative consequences, and he needs closure with Matsukawa to heal, else, it will forever retain a negative memory on both parties.

Realistic, but it's not what you'd brush of and say "It's okay". It's not, this kind of adandonment messes you up.

...I specifically said: "...of a situation you have MOST LIKELY never had to experience." Note the CAPS. And as a bi woman, who was literally kicked out of my home on Christmas when I came out, and faced YEARS of being bullied and abused, I absolutely have the right to comment. So hypocritical and insulting of you to assume my LGBTQ status and tell me I have no right to comment. I am part of that "US", so check yourself.
I also did not say that the ex shouldn't have regrets or to understand what he did. I can guarantee he does. Its not like walking away from someone you like is a fun activity. What is wrong, is all the mean wishes readers are leaving. He is most likely tortured enough. He can't be himself, he has to hide his sexuality, he had to abandon the guy he liked because of the negativity he received for being gay.
Instead of the mean wishes towards him, a VICTIM, the mean comments should be focused on those who caused him to feel he had to behave that way. It should be focused on the f'ed up society we live in that people can't love who they love. There are no comments about wishing for them to have closure, which would be good for both of them. The comments are focused on wishing more negativity and punishment on the ex, which is so wrong. Or what, would you feel better if he ignored his abusive classmates, came out, continued dating Matsuri and possibly ended up killing himself? Heres some facts for you: LGBTQ youth seriously contemplate suicide at almost three times the rate of heterosexual youth and LGBTQ youth are almost five times as likely to have attempted suicide compared to heterosexual youth.
I have not read any negative comments about Harukawa's behavior, which is my point. He did the same thing as the ex, yet ya'll are happy that he was chased after and gets a happy ending. Its hypocritical and lacks empathy. Matsuri even seems to acknowledge why he was 'abandoned'. Stop blaming victims.

I can't even begin to express how close mided you are.

You say you are part? THEN ACT LIKE IT. Victim blaming is slandering one party that was a clear victim-- in this case you seriously don't think the ex didn't do anything wrong? Then what about Matsuri who was left in the dust with no closure? Forgive and forget 'cuz he has no choice but to understand?

I don't hate the ex nor am I slandering him, and I'm not stopping you from commenting lmfao, I NEVER SAID THAT. I said that you have no right to put words into our mouth and assume things. Gods, you really should stop putting words into other people's mouths, it's not an effective arguement.

I can epathize on what happened to you, really. It's not easy being a queer, but I'm not seeing you point on where the fuck did I ever demean queer people? You stating "facts" on what LGBT people experience is more insulting for someone like me who actually tried doing so. Stop blindly "educating" people when you don't even understand the message.

I'm not blaming him, I'M CALLING HIM OUT ON HIS BAD DECISION. That's different. If he really did experience what you "think" based on your experience (all the scenarios you labelled wasn't even shown or a known fact IN THE MANGA), then that really is unfortunate-- but nonetheless, he handled it poorly and hurt someone and gave themselves both traumas.

THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT OKAY. IT SHOULDN'T BE LEFT AS IS AND IT NEEDS CLOSURE.

Just 'cuz you're a victim doesn't mean you don't need to correct and try to fix things.

With all the unfortunate shit you've experienced, YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT.

And that's what I want to happen to Matsuri and his ex. CLOSURE. THAT IS NOT victim blaming. If the ex exhibits the same mindset you give on his actions, it's nothing but pride and blame pushing. The ex was a victim of consequences, while Matsuri was a victim of his ex's abandonment-- and both need to come in peace with what happened to HEAL.

Which you know SHOULD be the PRIORITY for people who experienced jackshit.

And I'm not even saying that I'm happy the two main characters got together and got a happy ending. I couldn't care less if they end up together or not, since they got their closure. That's what maters.

Rather, I even said that I will only mark this a happy end if Matsuri gets his closure.

So there you go again, putting words onto people's mouths.

I'm not angry or tryna negate everything say tho. It's my two cents on the situation and how I think it should be dealt with-- irl or fiction.

Hope you're doing okay now, as I am. See you around.

Please knock this shit the fuck off. The drama is unbelievably annoying when you’re trying to glance through for raws.You’re young, and a kid. Haven’t been through shit yet to be judging. Just take a breath.

I'm not understanding your response? I'm an adult who's trying to have a civilized discussion.

And I've been through plenty, thank you. So maybe take a look at yourself and stop being a hypocrite on "judging".

Have a nice day, and maybe take the time to breathe, yourself.

funny how you're the one doing the real judging in this discussion

I can't begin to express how immature you are and honestly don't have to as your posts speak for themselves. It's obvious you have been hurt and continue to carry around your trauma. But blaming someone who is a victim themselves is not how you get over it. I really hope that you figure that out and can come to terms with your demons sometime soon. Best of luck.

It's either you didn't read the response, or actually didn't understand it.

I'd like you to pry apart where exactly I claimed that everything was the ex's fault? And there you go again putting words onto people's mouths.

But nevermind, as it seems that no matter how civilized I try to get things across, it seems to be of no use.

To each his own-- I will stand where I am now. I, and the people who brought me back knows that I am fine now. Thanks, but I don't need your disrespectful and sarcastic wish of luck.

That was an infuriating turn of things. You do you, so I'm out.

Y'all need to stop projecting so hard on fictional characters.

But adding to, being part of an oppressed group is not an excuse to be a shitty person, just fyi. So, people can comment on shitty actions. Victim complex is not a pretty trait.

lmao wtf are u talking about. none of what youre tying to get across was actually said nor is happening.

stop trying too hard hun. youre making yourself look dumb.

Wow so if get shit on by life, i can fuck other people up now?

Nice logic there bigot.

Not projecting, simply showing both sides of the situation, applying empathy and hoping it results in others not being this judgmental to real life persons in a similar situation. The ex wasn't a shitty person. He was, again, a KID who got scared and chose to hide who he was. He didn't bully Matsuri, he didn't talk bad about him, he simply removed himself from it. That isn't a 'shitty person' or 'shitty actions', its self protective behavior.

He did what was best for him, yes.
He hurt other people, that's why his actions are shitty.
he can do whatever he needs to do and live his best life but people gonna call out shitty behavior that affected other negatively.
No one here is real, wtf are you on? And if someone did this maybe they should reflect on their actions instead of shielding on being oppressed and a victim lol. That's how you grow up, owning to your shit.

I don't feel explaining stuff is gonna make any difference to you and it's a yaoi manga, so this is it from me.

I'll ask that question back to you (is it good shit?), or is it that you lack reading comprehension? Calling out and wishing someone pain are two opposite things and not what someone who is grown would do. Someone who is a codependent child holding onto their trauma like a security blanket on the other hand...
You're right though, it isn't going to make a difference to me because your understanding of right and wrong and what growing up is, is clearly limited. Not interested in having a discussion with someone who plays the vengeful victim. Good luck with that whole growing up bit.

Not everyone is going to be in a right state of mind to own up to anything, especially if they’re kids and in a society where LGBT isn’t accepted.

Unfortunately this is reality, which is why OP mentioned about real life. A lot of us here are fortunate enough to never experience what others in similar situations to these characters are going through. So we can’t just push our ideologies onto situations like this.

In our eyes, yes, the ex should reflect on their actions. But we need to consider their position as well. You guys are only looking at it from one perspective.

Indeed. Just because u are tough enough to deal shit doesn't mean others can do it too or also force themselves to do it too. We all had shits in life and we had weaknesses, people have ways dealing those and just think of growing up in a society where LGBTQ+ we're still not fully granted acceptance and respect was a real horror. Think of how scared and traumatized was he of how the world will change just by one thing that he's gay.

Good for you (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ you had deserved someone better! Though I can understand why some people hesitate when it comes to dating someone younger, but I'll trust your word

Ugh I really need to start to look at guys younger than me. All the guys I’ve dated are older than I am ( T﹏T )

Still be picky and discerning, of course. But it seems the younger generation has more respect for women. They understand consent. They are more 'woke'. And, at least for me, they have all felt very lucky to be given my attention as an older, attractive and accomplished woman. For reference, I am 32 and they have all been 26. The two that have been the best were both originally from the Midwest, but we didn't live there while dating.

I KNOW RIGHT! THE HYPOCRISY.

FOR REAL! I don’t see anything wrong with age gap. As a matter of fact, i love it! Specially when the women’s older.
I’ve read this manga where the guy is 31 yo and the girl is like 12 i think, (forgot the title), but I didn’t see this much hate there and criticism.

Isn’t that pedophilia??? (⊙…⊙ )

IKR hahaha. But he did wait for the girl to reach adulthood sooo

Thank you. There’s a lot about this couple

May the heavens bless you

Im also waiting for that action ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

oh hell yeah!!ヾ(☆▽☆)

Me too(▰˘◡˘▰)

The fact that this post have nearly 50 likes is horrifying.

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Right lmao. People hating on it clearly don’t know how BDSM works much less been in a sub dom relationship

OMFG. BDSM is about FULL CONSENT, SAFETY AND OLEASURE, SATISFACTION of both partners. Did you see anything like that in the play with other sub? Did you?

Oh so 'manipulation' is a part of this BDSM reality? New info. They had a mutual agreement to seperate their private lives and their sexual relationship. MD did what he did because he has ulterior motives. He intentionally placed someone in an uncomfortable situation just to push his ideals on chanwoo. Whatever the reason is doing something that you know will hurt another person is wrong. Im not commenting on the slap or the play they do, rather the situation that MD created. Get off your high horse and stop thinking that you know whats best for another person. I just hope you wont be intentionally hurting someone just because you think they need a lesson or that they deserved it.

Lmfaoooo why tf are u blaming him for getting beat on by his ex bf ur disgusting

Yep. I did. Safe words are there for a reason sweetheart. If it was past the point of comfort for the sub, he was capable of saying the word/phrase at anytime to stop.

Him and his partner were Not in a bdsm relationship, I’m not talking abt MD, I’m talking abt his ex that gave him bruises

this post is too true! Chan show he can go against MD and say the safe word, he just never did! and it's annoying me to no end! and the fact Chan dare to show off his new "bf" was fucking low from his part and shameless! he got what he needed and there is no reason to make Chan into a baby that can't decide things for himself.
shame the trolls will still whine how the baby can even decide shit now.

Your pov is toxic and ignorant I have no words.

Wasn’t talking to you dear. Try to keep up. In response to your earlier comment:
Radical honesty can be tough on the feeble minded. I’m an abuse survivor, one that is lucky to be alive and my experiences have shown me that there is a point where you have fault. Never said it was deserved, abuse is never deserved, but there is fault when the person continues to get into those relationships.
If you get beat up (in a non-consenting way) and continue to go back to them or seek out partners with the same qualities there is an issue with you. And if you fail to address it, work on it, identify past traumas and reasons why you continue to get into abusive relationships, you have blame. Again, doesn’t mean you deserve it or it is right, but you have a responsibility to check yourself when you continuously wind up in the same fucked up situation.

Good. Don't let the door hit you on the way out :)

The other comments didn’t load dipshit, you said it like he was the only one to blame, if he has a cycle of bad relationships, the fault is not entirely his, I think we can both agree but the way you said it made it seem that way.

Also plss do some research on bdsm, I’ve been into it and this had different motives, they both know it was wrong which is why MD apologized.

Seriously I feel like crying while going through this comment section.

If you don’t know what bdsm is, stop trying to propagate your misunderstandings smfh especially since you clearly don’t know jack shit about bdsm lmaoooo

Keep reading your 50 Shades doll.

Chan isn't a victim if he chooses to stay!! IT WAS HIS CHOICE!! if you don't get what responsibility means on your actions! you too young to read this. STOP READING if you too young for this.

Go back to reading your 50 Shades doll.

Like... It looks like you based your "knowledge" on such positions.

I hope you are too young because this ignorance would be worrying if you are above 20.

It’s more dangerous that people like you walk around with rose colored blinders.

I actually based my knowledge on being part of local BDSM chapters, attending seminars, actively participating in dom/sub relationships as both roles and having close friendships with many others in the community. Where do you get your “knowledge” from sweety?

Bruh, you’re not fooling anybody here. Don’t you have multiplication hw to do?

Either you are lying or they are misinformed and ignorants. I'm med student hon. In two years I will be a doctor. And I have seen more humble professors of medicine who could admit to mistake than you.
Sorry but with this pov you will either hurt your partner or you will be hurt.

And I'm especially sensitive about uneducated and irresponsible/unsafe BDSM plays because I had doubtful pleasure to see the results of such plays.

Lmao, what does being in medicine have to do with BDSM? You just admitted to having zero knowledge. Please sit the fuck down.

"And I'm especially sensitive about uneducated and irresponsible/unsafe BDSM plays because I had doubtful pleasure to see the results of such plays".
It's the continuation. And I used to be interested in the topic...but man it's even a common sense. Simple, logical common sense and empathy. You seriously don't understand the base. Elementar roles.

I’m not trying to fool anyone though? :) My homework consists more of node.js and .NET, having an understanding of maths helps though.
Bruh, does calling someone a bruh make you feel like a big boy, bruh?

And it was example that even people with titles who has worked in some field for years can be mistaken and misinformed... And you are acting like holy truth.

You are such specialist you can't even see a clear coercion. Clap clap I'm impressed.

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Same. At first I was enjoying the back and forth. But now I’m tiring at the ignorance. It’s gotten to where I don’t even want to push your buttons anymore :( Sadly, this play session is done on my end. Do continue to moan to your hearts content though.

You are just uneducated and ignorant who will most likely get hurt or hurt someone else. I can only feel sympathy for your supposedly partners.

I don’t wanna challenge ur ignorant, hurtful views but the FIRST thing you learn abt bdsm is consent and boundaries, Also telling ppl to go back to reading 50 shades ain’t doing shit, UR BASICALLY READING THE SAME THING, Imma go now, ur clearly either underage or insanely dumb

is it realistic? It doesn't seem to be that much realistic to me

It's more realistic than most i have read

oof how can i make it into a reality??

its realistic,,
i meet my husband his 34 and im 17
his single he has stable job
and im glad that i meet him
we are now 10 years together

Same goes to me. Met my husband when I am 18 and he's 33.

10 years and ongoing with 3 lovable brats (´∀｀)♡

Did you guys ever feel reluctant to get into a relationship with someone much older? I sometimes feel awkward talking with people a few years younger thinking we're both mentally too different

My father married a woman 13 years younger... XD

yes it is
my bf is 46 and me 27

dude its not bad to date older us lobg us his single and his not married
never underistamate older guy when it come to sex

Omg all of you guys sound like you have such loving and cute relationship!!! im so happy for you all congratulations and for more to come for your relationship <33 i want to meet someone like that someday too! Also being 46 and 27 is so close to the age in the manga lmaoo

At my country, celebrity also got together even though with long age gap..such as the girl was 37 and the man was 21..also few got married with such age gap

yup lmao but im not a sales lady our his my neighbor when u was elementary i had secret crush on him
but he never get married becouse his firts love chested on her when he go to abroad

I'm sorry to hear about his first love.. but that's so cute, having a crush on him during elementary and ending up actually dating him in the future (≧∀≦)

yup dream come true lol
his already madly inlove with me now lol
and thank to that bicth his mine now haha

WHAT

What I'm happy about reading alp your replies to each other is that even if you're adults with your own kids, you still read manga. That's what I'm happy about.ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

I prefer older guys too. Guys at my age just want to have fun and play around. I hope I can find a older guy. But I think it will be difficult as most men treat me like a little sister.(´°ω°｀)