Wow, that was disappointing. I was going to give up halfway through chapter 3 but decided to power through... that was a bad decision. OMG That is like a whole 90 minutes of my life I'll never get back!
The art is pretty good, but who wrote the story - a third grader? The only things missing were a fairy godmother and a pumpkin! Sorry to fans, but this story SUCKED. On top of all that... CHICKS IN YAOI ARE A DISGRACE TO FEMALES EVERYWHERE!!
...that the "luck goddess' son' was the uke. Wouldn't his powers have been easier to transfer through "insemination"?? Just asking...
His mother, being a woman, obviously didn't inseminate anyone, and she brought luck to everyone she dated....
You make a very valid and intriguing point. The transference of luck must have been on a more ephemeral plane than that of my "obviously meant to be a stab at crass humor" remark.
...I'm not usually into shounen ai (too much kawaii love and bunny cuddles)but there was NONE of that here. This was a well written story. Although the end seems, to others, to be "unfinished" I didn't see it that way at all. The end built from the middle and climaxed the way life for a teenager would... with more to look forward to. I mean this about the characters not the manga itself.
Excellent story... compelling and smooth to read. Though some conflicts seem unresolved, it fits with the premise of the story - how young people cope with the trials of their lives as teens. This is worth the time to read.
I really love this manga. The story is so well written, the plot and conflicts are complete and even the end (without the extra chapters) leaves a fulfilled feeling. The extra chapters make it even better.
I only had one problem with a character... Kisu's father. What a selfish, arrogant f*cktard. How could any man do that to his son and still call himself a father and a man?? The mother wasn't much better IMO. Trying to guilt trip your kids into doing things is lower than a pregnant snakes belly. Kisu was killing himself, caring for his brothers, with NO HELP from his sh*t-eating parents, by working and going to school. What right did they have to seek his help again for anything. If the twins hadn't been aboard, I'd have wished the plane would crash.
Sorry for the rant, but it is the sign of a great mangaka if they can get me to cry or be pissed off. So, thank you sensei for an incredible manga!!
Exxxcellent! After a glowing report like that, this is going onto my "Wanna Read" list, pronto.
Thanks! You made me smile.
agree with you so much! the father was a asshole! and the mother didn't have any spine to say "No! that's enough!" no wonder Kizu suffer so much, well like they say you can't choose who to born to, only deal and try to tolerate them. I wish Kizu just won't see them ever again!
This manga is fairly old so I doubt a contiuation will ever come, but it would be nice to see the MCs several years down the road, living happily ever after with the parents still in some far off country. Maybe the could go to the US and get married! What a great doujinshi that would make.
...why would you read a manga with a tied up uke and a seme with a riding crop on the cover?? Duh.
To those uninitiated into the depths of S&M...there is not a MORE POWERFUL bond of TRUST than that between S&M partners. For those of us who derive pleasure from pain - because the line between is so fine - we must trust our partner implicitly to never cross that line. "Normal" sex requires a MUCH LOWER level of trust. Anyone can partake in "normal" sex, but it takes a truly unique and gifted couple to perform and enjoy S&M properly.
I haven't read this manga yet, and I think your comment is really true. Do you think this manga does a good job portraying a BDSM relationship? I feel like a lot of stories ignore the nuances and misrepresent S&M.
This manga does a LITTLE BETTER than most, but of course the subtleties can be lost in translation and even in the original editing. This story contains some piercing and it's done well between the couple, but since the seme is a Dr. he also does it to another uke (the partner of a friend). There are some ambiguous things said that leads the Dr's uke to believe he is cheating. This scene leads to a "defining" moment for the couple (Dr. and his uke). That defining moment seems to confuse a lot of readers who are not familiar with the world of "real" S&M. So, by that, I would conclude that this manga gets closer to "real life" than others in this genre.
That said, I found the story appealing and entertaining. However, the best depiction, by far, of "real" S&M would be "Hoshi no Yakata" by Tori Maia. Nothing in the yaoi genre can compare to this manga for realism in the realm of S&M (not talking plot or characters - strictly the depiction of S&M relationships and play). IMHO
Hope I helped. Feel free to mail me here if you have any other questions or if you just want to chat.
I failed to reply to the second part of your comment. I'm sorry. I also feel that a lot (most) stories in yaoi fail to really capture the delicacies of both S&M and B&D. Most "S&M" depictions could barely pass as MILD B&D play for anyone familiar with this "lifestyle", and yet others go too far and depict cruel and inhuman torture. There just doesn't seem to be a definitive balance in this genre. Then again, a lot of readers don't understand the idea that, what is commonly defined as "rape" in this genre, is also a form of B&D known as "forced intercourse play" or "rape play". Wherein, the dominant partner uses mild force to push or pin down the passive partner, while the passive partner can either "give in" or attempts to "fight back". Depending on the dominant partner's strength and how much they are turned on by the "fight", the passive partner will increase or decrease their level of refusal. In the end, both partners are aroused and sex can be incredibly hot. This is obviously not a game to play with a stranger or even with a partner that is unaware that this game is being played. In yaoi, as in real life, sex between two men can be quite rough and indelicate. Most men are competitive, dominating and tough by nature (even the ukes - hence the tsundere uke). Therefore, seeing this type of "forced intercourse play" among men should not be so unexpected or misunderstood. Leading to my conclusion that, the subtle nuances of B&D (let alone S&M) are missed, not only by the readers, but also by the mangakas.
Sorry for what seems to be a rant. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Thanks! I think that's the central issue that is often obfuscated. To my understanding, for something to be considered true BDSM, it has to be consensual at the most basic level. After reading this manga, I felt that aspect was well portrayed.
Of the over 400 yaoi that I've read, approximately 3-4 instances have occurred where I've said "Yeah, no, that was rape...for sure." In cases of BDSM in yaoi most of the time there is initial refusal followed by arousal and implied consent. That is NOT ALWAYS the case...but is for the vast majority. Usually, the manga will be tagged with S&M and have a "little tie up" or blindfolding, but that's about it. Leaving me, personally, rather disappointed.
To say that BDSM REQUIRES consent may be a bit naive (not that you are - just the idea). To perform BDSM properly, so that all parties involved feel pleasure and satisfaction, absolutely - consent is required. Not everyone involved in this "lifestyle" adhere to this, unfortunately. Some even "get off" on the fear of an unwilling partner. I recommend steering far clear of this type of person. Trust is paramount in a "healthy" BDSM relationship, for those "unhealthy" souls, steer clear - unless you are into that kind of thing.
Crap, I keep replying to my own comments! I'm sorry, please see my reply elsewhere on this page. #－.－)
I agree with everything you said but i was just wondering are you into it or you just find it interesting as well as i do? (sorry to be so blunt lol). The manga wasn't bad though, one of the better BDSM ones i seen, even though it didn't grasp the reality of such situation
Although my master and I are no longer partners, I am still active in my local BDSM community. I am both a sadist and a defiant masochist. I enjoy inflicting or receiving pain, depending on my partner. IOW I can give as good as I get and I put up a fight when I am getting it. This means my partner (sadist) must enjoy the thrill of the refusal and overpowering their "prey".
I found this manga to be a highly romanticized version of BDSM, but still closer to "the real thing" than most can claim.
Defiant masochist...now that would certainly be an interesting manga with that theme haha. I read alot about that lifestyle (since no one around me is into it) and it fascinates me tbh so i do understand your feelings (although not quite) but thanks for the honest reply, I appreciate it.
Yaoi novel Taming Riki is closest to BDSM in my point of view...but it's kinda long and can get rapey
I'll have to check that manga out. Thanks. If you ever have any other questions on this, please feel free to contact me. Fiction can fill in some information, but there's nothing like having a friend to talk to about the real thing. (⌒▽⌒)
LOL Welcome to the "club"!!
Seeing as people are still replying can I ask you a personal question? If you dont want to answer feel free to ignore this.
Anyway, how did you find out that youre masochistic/sadistic? Im pretty curious about BDSM in general, i might have "some" tendencies but I cant say for sure if im that type or this type or if I'm plain normal, because all the info i get are based online, i cant really compare myself to others cause I dont know anyone who's into this, so its been confusing for me. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I'd be happy to share my experiences and help in any way I can. I was introduced to BDSM when I was 17. My boyfriend had lots of B&D fantasies and I agreed to play along. As we progressed in our play, he found other people who also were into BDSM and we went to parties to meet new "like minded" friends. Eventually, we attended a convention of BDSM participants. It was through these contacts that I was introduced to all the ins and outs of BDSM. Trying on different roles with people I trusted, helped me find the place that felt most comfortable for me. I am a defiant masochist. This means that, although I am in a submissive role, I do not just blindly obey. The "punishment" is my goal - I enjoy the pain - so by defying my Dom I am "rewarded". It takes a patient and kind person to be a DM's Dom. They also have to enjoy being a bit cruel without going overboard and it helps if they are aroused by the "fight" that I put up. This kind of play is not for just anybody. It actually takes a lot of self control, on both players parts, to make the game safe and fun.
I suggest starting out slow. Try B&D first. A little bondage with gentle discipline. Discipline is not always a violent act, either. No kissing for the next 30 minutes of foreplay can be a punishment for a person who loves kissing. I will tease and give loving attention to every part of your body, except the part that you enjoy most... coming close to touching it, but never quite doing so until you beg for it... also a great "gentle punishment". Play both roles and see which one appeals to you more. Or you can do what I do and switch roles all the time. I am a defiant masochist with men and a sadist or Dom with women. If you are not big, you can simply play one role in one encounter and the opposite role in the next encounter.
The most important advice I will ever give you is this: NEVER perform BDSM games with a stranger or anyone that you wouldn't trust with your life. BDSM can be very dangerous and can be used as an excuse for violent people to hurt you. BDSM is a relationship that requires the highest levels of trust. Without it, it can become abuse. Play with care.
If you have any other questions please feel free to contact me here, in mail.
Being both a masochist and a sadist is not uncommon. Might I recommend seeking a BDSM group in your area to help you find the perfect partner for your future endeavors. Best of luck and happiness to you.
...I think I would have been more "into it" if the uke didn't look like he was 12, even AFTER graduation. Loved the sister... You go Big Sis!!
All of sensei's ukes look very young ne?
yea. If you get into this mangaka it's something you'll have to get used to. Even 30 year old ukes look like toddlers in the hands of Kotetsuko sensei xD
LOL I don't "get into" mangaka, I try to diversify my reading as much as possible. That's not to say I don't have a few favorites.
I love Ayase from Okane ga Nai, so shota isn't a problem for me. I think it's because other characters appear older, but the uke remains looking like a child. Even Ayase grows a little taller over the course of Okane ga Nai and he's written as 19-22. I liked this story a lot, I guess I was expecting to see a change and was disappointed when it didn't happen.
I'm not a fan of Okane ga Nai... i've gotten used to the whole "romanticizing rape" in yaoi but I just can't seem to get into that story
The first three yaoi I ever read were Sekaiichi Hatsukoi, Junjou Romantica and Okane ga Nai. So, I have a soft spot for it. LOL I also love Ayase's clothes.
You have me there. Ayase is always dressed like a cute little angel(⌒▽⌒)... and Junjou Romantica was my first yaoi too, so I can understand having a soft spot for it.
The art is exceptional, the story seems to follow the predictable yaoi plot (this is good), and the sexy tension is high.
i agree, the confused am i lusting for another guy tension is Delicious.
oh god yes. Let's just hope the sex scenes will be just as good
...and the art is remedial at the beginning, but if you want to see how a mangaka grows and changes, this is a good manga for it. The story lines show the mangaka's evolution, as does the art. By the last story the art is more mature and detailed and the stories have much more depth.
yeah
I'm gonna go kill myself now. (j/k) How fricking depressing was that sh*t?!
This is a great "light" read. The story is quick but not rushed. The conflicts are simple and resolved sweetly. I recommend this as a "palette cleanser" after any sad or "heavy" yaoi.
My favorite part was in the "extra" when Neko threw the cat at the french guy...I laughed so hard!!
Back again after two and a half years. Can't get enough of this couple. Still find this story sweet and charming.
Another 8 months and I'm back again. LOL And the extra where Neko throws the cats still cracks me up. He responds with such aplomb! As if it were the most natural thing to do. I actually have my own neko who does this too, but mine is the furry kind. He will cuddle with me and if anyone, including my husband, gets too close he bites them and then looks at them like, "What?! You deserved it, she's mine." Oh, Baba, you naughty baka neko! LMAO