
threesomes are low-key hot asf and the blindfold just adds to it. ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

I'm pretty sure that at this point everyone reading this knows that all sex scenes in this manhwa are just different kinds of rape. Were aware. We continue to read it knowing what is happening. It's a distopia with all kinds of shit happening. Your high horse has no place in this discussion even more so if you're still reading it.

I am not on any high horse at all. We all know that pretty much every sex scene is rape. I come back to this book every now and then to see how it's going. Or if it ended yet. Other people read the same scenes for many reasons. This book is obviously a tragedy and apocalyptic drama and thriller. The creater(s) know what they are doing and how they are doing it. What I pointed out is how the person above who first commented was like "threesomes are hot and it's even hotter with blindfolds" and "this character is my number 1 I love them" when 1: he is obviously being raped and the blindfold was weaponized to put him in a place of submission for control and he is obviously getting very emotional about it. 2: They are glorifying a character that has also subjected the protagonist to non consensual sexual acts. They completely romanticizing it and finding his character attractive regardless of it. Not one character has been completely innocent and genuine towards the protagonist and the creater is definitely portraying that. Yeah, the person definitely has the freedom to do that, but I can also have an opinion about the person's reaction to such and despair, hopelessness and vulnerability being portrayed and played off as "hot", "sexy", and "attractive".

I normally equate "normalizing" with people who want to conflate an obvious fantasy into their reality. But that's not how I saw the comment.
To me, any smutty Manhwa, Manga, or Graphic Novel with Risky-to-Obvious non-consensual material in it is on par with our reality's fantasy roleplay. It's not real. It's a fantasy. No one is actually getting hurt. It's pretend. It's nothing more than something that adds to whatever turns you on in the first place. Therefore the initial comment made was made because it's a fantasy kink they like, not because they want it to translate into rape in the real world.

That's why stories like this are not for everyone. Some know that what's going on in the story is exclusively and completely fake within the world it's written for and won't cross that boundary, while others compare actions in the story to actions done in real life and make an "art imitates life" comparison. It triggers emotions from those with a higher sensitivity to how these things are executed even though what was read is purely fictional.
For me, if I find it to be too much I take a break and find a happy place.

somnophilia (sleeping beauty kink) is the eroticism of someone being unconscious. basically being horny because your partner is asleep and unable to control the situation. as someone with this kink, it’s the thrill of being helpless against my partner’s desires. of course, it’s extremely valid to be uncomfortable with this type of sexual activity, but i’m here to provide an explanation from those who are into it. (⌒▽⌒)

Sleeping people cant consent just like drunk people cant consent. You cant give consent to something inherently unconsensual. Enjoying the idea of being assaulted LITERALLY is something you should go to sex therapy for. Sleep play is not the same as somnophiliac sexual assault. Pretending to be asleep but actually being able to consent to the act is normal and okay, sexual assault is not. Do not let fiction warp reality, there is already a clear issue in this story with sexualising and romanticising sexual violence. Your partner touching you in your sleep is NEVER okay. Somnophilia when enacted on (as in sexually assaulting a sleeping person) becomes a predatory paraphilia that needs to be treated. Please stop trying to justify whats going on here, being okay with soemone sexually assaulting you in your sleep doesnt mean yoh are consenting to the act, sleeping people cannot consent.

sexually assaulting someone means the person being assaulted never gave consent first, regardless of them being awake or not. while it is under the category of consensual-non-consent kinks (CNC), the whole point of those types of kinks is to take control in an otherwise harmful situation. when indulging in these kinks, communication is vital. you need to have in-depth discussions on when it’s okay and when it’s not, so the topic of consent when doing somnophilia with your partner is already covered.
i never made this comment to encourage or glorify sexual assault. i’ve been assaulted before, so don’t assume that i’m just some crazy person okay-ing assault and rape. i was just informing people on why some people (not those who assault others, but use it with consent with their partners) like it.

No sexual assault is nonconsensual sexual contact, a more nuanced wording. SLEEPING people inherently cant consent. There is so concept of giving consent in advance for a state where you cannot consent, it doesnt exist.
To be clear, ive done sleep play before, actually touching a sleeping person is not cnc because the whole point of cnc is that they can actually consent to whats happening and usually theres a safe word.
Im sorry if i misinterpreted what you were saying here but you made an informative comment about sleeping beauty kinks under a chapter that contained sexual assault and never really made the distinction that what was going on in the chapter was NOT what should be taken as reference for that kink. I thought it sounded misleading especially to young readers but i mightve jumped the gun. I think everyone would appreciate it if you were extremely nuanced when trying to educate anybody on very specific kinks like this.

Thats sexual assault by pure definition, and sexual exploitation. Consent is an active concept that you must give which is why giving it in advance for something that is inherently non consensual is sexual violence. I cant control what people do but i can point out that its wrong. That is all i will do.

Hiiii just slipping in this convo. I never had any sexual contact with anyone, but I do like the idea of someone having their way with me when I'm asleep (obviously like my partner whom I trust with all my heart). I've always fantasised about it (ik I'm hella weird). Ig it's a kink but what does that actually make me? (Skksksk sorry I'm genuinely curious) ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

hey, don’t be afraid to explore and find out what you like. all i will say is to just take it slow, especially with plays and kinks that involve inherently non-consensual things. when discussing this stuff with your future partner, be sure to emphasize consent and safe words and to stand your ground with boundaries. you may think it’s interesting to try now, but wait a little until you have proper experience. you’re not weird or crazy for having these thoughts and desires. :)

no yeah, definitely. i’m sorry if my response to you was a aggressive. i do believe that cnc is a very controversial topic when it comes to sex and yes, a sleeping person cannot inherently consent. cnc to me in my experience, as well as what other people have told me, is when you give consent to sexual acts ahead of time when you are unable to consent. for some examples: sleep play, sex while intoxicated, hypnosis, etc. of course, explaining cnc to an audience that most likely has no sexual experience is a bad idea, and i regret making this comment now that i think about it. i thought i remembered a scene where was a scene from a chapter where Yikyung and Joobin talked about pleasuring the other when one is asleep, but maybe i was thinking of a different bl. i also was assuming that Yikyung liked Joobin doing it considering his inner thoughts, so that’s why i made this comment. not an excuse, just a reason for making the comment. don’t apologize for “jumping the gun”, you were responding to a somewhat ignorant comment, so thank you for bringing perspective. :)
IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOURE DOING IS STUPID, STOP BEING STUPID
i’m fuckin’ sick and tired of people who know what they’re about to do is wrong and stupid and do it anyway. i don’t care if Youngwon won’t explain, if he says i won’t be of any help outside, imma stay put. simple as that, but this dumbass is like “i DoN’t UnDerStANd whY He’S bEiNg soooooo MeAn :((((“ MAYBE JUST MAYBE IF YOU JUST LISTEN AND STAY PUT LIKE A GOOD BOY HE’LL TELL YOU
hey, Youngwon ain’t off the hook either. for fucks sake, i know you’re hot as fuck, but please just tell him. i don’t know why you’re holding back, there’s quite literally no reason. if you tell him that yall are both cursed and keep dying and- oh….
i just realized mid-typing this that the reason why Youngwon hasn’t told Hyunie is because he probably has in every reincarnation, but since Hyunie dies every time, he always forgets, so Youngwon has given up on telling him because he’s afraid of Hyunie dying and forgetting everything once again. ALSO ALSO PROBABLY THE REASON WHY HE’S IRRITATED WITH HYUNIE FOR DOING STUPID SHIT???
hohyun is a whole grown man, and not a pet. despite his key role in determining the fate of the world, he is not simply a puppet, but a human with his own thoughts, that NO ONE, not even youngwon can fully understand.
i understand where you’re coming from, but despite the help that youngwon has given him, hohyun has NO actual obligation to listen to him, especially when he’s acting like that.
If i was youngwon, i’d rather try to beg him to stay (maybe not his personality). Showing vulnerability is probably more effective than just yelling your head off, without trying to reason with the other party.
i wasn’t trying to make Hyunie out to just being a dog with no free-will, of course he can do whatever he wants and feel however he feels, but i feel like even if Youngwon is an asshole about it and is probably pent up from all the other reincarnations, Hyunie knows that he comes from a good place. i understand that Hyunie is now growing into a naturally independent person who’s getting more and more curious, but if Youngwon is *this* adamant on making him stay, maybe there’s a reason and he should maybe listen every once in a while? not all the time, but some to build trust between the two. if Youngwon can trust that Hyunie will listen to him, maybe he’ll be more willing for Hyunie to explore on his own, rather than yelling at him to either stay put or beside him.
yess i get you 100% it wasn’t really a jab to you particularly, i went on a bit of a tangent lmao!! i just think youngwon is too mean ☹ i hope they can sort it out soon