I once complained here in the comment section that I am tired to see the plot where the young awkward weird outsider girl with special abilities is getting bullied by her peers or many stupid assholes in her conservative enviroment. They unreasonably fear, hate + discriminate her for being different and scapegoating and accuse her for being cursed.
I hate seeing such innocent/decent meek girls getting destroyed for having some strange power...
Other similar examples:
Mitsuyokon Tsukumogami no Yomegoryou + Natsume Yuujinchou (Male MC & his Grandmother in flashback) + Bloody Sweet/Honey Blood (Lee Narae) + The Ancient Magus Bride.
What all these stories have all in common is that the situation of the more often female Protagonist who can see ghosts/spirits/demons can only improve for the better when powerful supernatural male entities appear in their lifes. They practically save them from their current toxic unbearable setting.
I complained that there aren't actually Western or Asian comics about a girl or a boy turning their "curse" into a blessing/useful weapon against assholes on their own and loving it... After lots of pondering, I finally remember!
I like to recommend these scary endearing girls (Dark Goddesses) who embrace their creepyness, love being different and their own abilities AND don't give a crap how most people view them.
They sure love to scare off/punish bad persons.(▰˘◡˘▰):
Sunako (Yamato Nadeshiko/Perfect Girl Evolution - NOT THE LIVE ACTION), Wednesday Addams (The Addams Family or Adult Wednesday) and Nanno (Girl From Nowhere)
Side note: Sunako starts kinda weak and very self-concious but she becomes stronger and crazier without ever losing her dark core.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5h-g3PAYCM
"Yamato Nadeshiko episode 1 eng sub"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQlB4jSy-3Q
"The Addams Family Goes To School (Full Episode) | MGM"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I0xFZ34uT4
"Wednesday Addams being a mood for 7 minutes straight."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIAhjRwOIE
"Adult Wednesday Addams s2e3 Wednesday vs Catcallers"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5X7pWbxteQ
"Adult Wednesday Addams s1e6 Planned Parenthood"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeDdVRd5KIs
"Cute but Deadly! Nanno and Her Sweet Revenge"
I think she/that crazy Bitch is able to hold a candle to Lion Queen Bitch Melissa (Beware of the Villainess), if there is no dark haired tsundere ML appearing out of nowhere and becomes obsessed with her!!!!!!!
Examples where the supposed strong FL gets bothered or undermined by the brooding dark haired Alphahole:
Doctor Elise
The Villainess Reverses the Hourglass
Shadow Queen
I Tamed a Tyrant and Ran Away
Untouchable Lady (I really like this story but the ML looks and behaves typical, not toxic)
The Reason Why Raeliana Ended up at the Duke's Mansion
Charming And The Beast
Anyone Can Becomes A Villainess.
Why She Lives As A Villainess
The Villainess Wants to Enjoy a Carefree Married Life in a Former Enemy Country in Her Seventh Loop!
etc.....
I think she/that crazy Bitch is able to hold a candle to Lion Queen Bitch Melissa (Beware of the Villainess), if there is no dark haired tsundere ML appears out of nowhere and becomes obsessed with her!!!!!!!
Examples where the supposed strong FL gets bothered or undermined by the brooding dark haired Alphahole:
Doctor Elise
The Villainess Reverses the Hourglass
Shadow Queen
I Tamed a Tyrant and Ran Away
Untouchable Lady (I really like this story but the ML looks and behaves typical, not toxic)
The Reason Why Raeliana Ended up at the Duke's Mansion
Charming And The Beast
Anyone Can Becomes A Villainess.
Why She Lives As A Villainess
The Villainess Wants to Enjoy a Carefree Married Life in a Former Enemy Country in Her Seventh Loop!
etc.....
Does CONSENT actually exit in BL/Yaoi stories??? Why it is so rare?!
I know it is a genre, fantasy and guilty pleasure etc... But I am starting to get frustrated to see sexual assault and rape as romantic expression in stories I was curious and invested ( ̄へ ̄)
The first time I ever saw a Seme ask respectfully an Uke for his consent to embrace him was in "Money makes the (Other) World Go Round: The Corporate S*ave Dragged into the Saint Summoning".
You have no idea how speechless and impressed I was by this moment(⊙…⊙ )
Please tell me other good positive Yaoi BL Stories that has no sexual abuse, rape or forced romance!
Ok I just read quickly sporadically many chapters of 'Who's baby is it?' and the ML/Seme seems decent enough.
But I am personally not keen about the whole plot and its logic.
For example: Uke gets unwillingly involved in the troubles of the priveledged Seme who is part of a very rich elite patriarchal/conservative family where there is the typical scheming, backstabbing, framing and internal power struggle over who gets what.
And Seme is so attractive and desirable that he attracts dumb evil jealous bitches and stupid envious self-proclaimed rivals or greedy enemies...
There is the trope where the Uke/FL becomes a target because of the ML/Seme who came forceful into their lifes...
Their power dynamic is not that unbalanced! They are pretty much on equal footing!
I recently discover this annoying toxic trope that I ve seen in plenty other dark BL stories:
The innocent or not innocent struggling poor Uke meets the Seme who is usually so goodlooking, charming, rich, influential and powerful but is also in truth often a bored, lonely, violent, psychotic, dangerous manchild. Alphahole becomes interested in the Uke, bullies, manhandles, mistreat, sometimes sexually assault, toys with him, stalks him, blackmails him, deceive him etc... until Asshole falls in love with him. Him being very obesessed with Uke will automatically turn in into MR HOT GENTLEMAN.
Uke initially didn't want anything to with him but was forced to by him. Evtl Seme makes a deal with Uke that he/Uke becomes his toy/plaything/lover in exchange for money and power.
After enduring the bad fuckboy for some time, we learn Seme met Uke already somewhere in the past and we are given the revealation how sad and tragic his backstory is to easily sympathize, romanticize and excuse him of all his shitty harmful behaviour towards the inferior Uke.
And there is always one or two worse scums that wronged or target the Uke that will make the Seme/ML conventiently look obviously better for us...
I noticed that many young readers are praising messed up BL webtoons about bloody Mafia like Semes because how super hot they are. They are ignoring the fact how messed up, disturbing, unhealthy, traumatic and creepy such portrayal of relationships are.
The Story KILLING STALKING was quite a wake up call for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmgqNyZ190
“Killing Stalking” and The Romancing of Abuse
Thirst may be a messy melodramatic story but I appreciate that we are following two conflicted engaging super sexy equals who are really mutually attracted to each other not because just sorley of revenge, blackmail, abuse, trauma or grand scheme!
I recently had an uncomfortable petty conversation with a commentator in their spoiler section here about the ML/Seme in Payback.
I expressed my concerns and they/this user reacted negatively.
We wasted our time by having the last word out of spite and at the end I finally apologize for peace sake + let it go.
There are these hardcore fans who likes this dangerous mafia tsundere immature ML with these very fitted hidden depths without any critical thinking... I believe they love this fantasy about a godlike looking well off bad boy getting redeemed and tamed by the Uke/FL... It's wishful self-projecting porn.
They quickly forget and accept how the superior Alphahole "harassed" the struggling Uke/FL. So no matter what these MLs did to the MC/the love of their life, they always are forgiven for having deep sympathetic reasons:
ML was in love with them some years ago, he felt for the first time these feelings of love because them and they are the only one in this world who can make feel truly better, good, alive or reformed.
It is pretty much the Beauty and The Beast Syndrome.
We should respect as good as we can the preferences of others but there are tropes that are quite questionable and problematic. I think we should talk about that openly and reasonably.
"If you don't like it, don't read it. Go read something else like shoujo..."
There is sth really too simple, cheap and patronizing about this counter argument.
I mean I ve already read it and dropped it. And sometimes you don't know which direction this story you were interested goes or how annoying bad a character really is.
Thanks for reading/listening.
This is honestly what makes this series topnotch and undeniable. There's no uke/seme qualities thrope, they characterized them both as as men as they should be. Both empowered and living theit life with that empowerment with their hands until they meet ways. And even after they met, there's no unnecessary seme saving uke or what kind of thrope. They both could stand independently as characters, so when they are put together, the world panics. They give out this indescribable yet undeniable taste. The author really stepped out their game
Tell me about it. Like I was reading big and beautiful and the semester likes to dress up as girls and I commented "who doesn't like femme boys" And this one commented people who have preference of masculine boys and im like bruh who pissed your pants and told me to use tone indicators like I'm just enjoying my day and it had to be ruined by a petty person.
Lesian was so close to hold a candle to LION QUEEN BITCH MELISSA (Beware Of The Villainess)...
But she had to become very inferior, agitated, clumsy, shy and blushed in front of this typically tsundere obsessed stalking immature dark haired ML....Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)
I didn't like how easy it was for this superior ML to dodge the FL's attack.
Now she is chasing after him to win against him...(● ̄(エ) ̄●)
The sudden Romance bond was so cliché and forced.











Do you think the Seme is too abnormal and creepy to be a bofriend/lover/life partner???
Who are you referring to?
He just has crippling loneliness
LMAOO
no
Ha Hyun-je