MangaAnger9 May 24, 2021 6:47 pm

I ve read the novel update spoilers and I still have a dislike for Dion:

"Dion wishes to become a scar that will never be erased from Roxana's heart. It'll probably be hard to understand through this small text but I advise you to wait til the manwha covers this part.

Dion struggles to fill the emptiness he has inside him; the loneliness from everything he and Roxana had to endure alone back in Agriche. It was a place where they couldn't survive without being strong. Both of them needed each other and it wasn't a feeling that can be simply expressed. It was something they both went through together and unconsciously understood each other."

"Yeppp dats correct after the fall everyones gonna think deon's dead so he keeps wandering and then tries to annoy FL(still wants to see her cry) while jeremy tries to fix up the family after roxana destroyed it so that she could have a home that MAYBE she would go back to. With living in pedelian, after Lant ageriche dies, she wanted to end her life there cause everything she worked for was finished. Casis picked her up and brought her to the annex of their mansion. The family was really warm despite them being enemies and his sister really liked roxana. They also spent their first night(it was described as being stuck in the room for 3 days) and other stuff there."

"From the day she saw Roxana’s tears four years ago, it remained a stupid question in his heart.
”If he dies, will someone be so sad?” No.”If he dies, will someone cry for him like that?” That too… … . No.
Yes, Sierra was right. He couldn’t kill Roxana. Then he wanted to die at her hand. I wanted to become a scar that would never be erased from her. Then this deep void seemed to be filled."

ch204
In the first place he never wanted Roxana’s forgiveness. Rather, if he could remain within her with a hate that would never disappear, Deon would rather be pleased with it.

“So Deon, you can’t die yet.” Now Deon seemed to know that this was neither a dream nor an illusion. Such a sharp pain could not be a dream. The conclusions drawn were clear. In the end, Deon was not killed by Roxana’s hands that day. And it was clear that she was thinking of putting her leash on him again and leaving him out of sight. Until Deon dies alone outside her sight. “So you don’t deserve to die yet.” Her voice was as cold as her eyes. “I… … .” However, for Deon, the word was accepted with permission to be by her side.

Ending

"Honestly, the ending feels kind of incomplete. The main storyline ends at chapter 209, which is when the Nyx doll escaped. Roxana, Cassis, and Jeremy go to chase him down, a few quotes appear, then bam, the end. The second side story does continue from this point, but I find it weird that it's a side story and not part of the main story. Nevertheless, it does give a better closure...sort of lol.

So in the end, Roxana goes back to Agriche to co-lead it with Jeremy. Cassis does have to return to Pedalian so the two of them are currently in a long-distance relationship. Dion remains as Roxana's slave, dog, whatever you want to call him. There's no marriage or children. The author has confirmed to release more short stories but for now, this is pretty much it."

Sidestories

"Apparently, Deon is expressionless since childhood but he originally has a fairly neural good relationship with Asil. He didn't particularly like him but Asil seems closer to him than other half-brothers of that time, he even eat Asil's candy that was given to him (although at first, he threw any candy Asil gave to him, calling it trash). But suprise and not surprisingly, he became cold when Landt caught Deon passing an adult level obstacle uninjured when helping Roxie (No one realize Roxie entered the maze). Since then, he was trained to become who he is now and because of his sudden drop in performance when helping Roxanne, He and Asil was never allowed to meet each other since then."

"It also mentioned in side story that Landt actually ask Deon's oppinion on Asil but his answer led Landt to issue the first kill order to Deon. Roxanna originally thought Deon is someone she can still try and get along despite his direct involvement in the execution (she suspect the maze insident from those years back), but when servants tell how it is issued, she shut herself from ever attempt to get close to Deon or any other half-siblings ever again (except our border-sadist cinnamonroll Jeremy of course). This is why Roxanna can't truly forgive Deon nor does Deon at that time care how his words affect the outcome."

To me, Dion is a fucked up broken creep who has some incestuous feelings vibes. But he is the lesser evil than patriarch father Lant, still.
By the way, that scum Lant gets killed by Cassis's hand :)
And despite knowing Dion's background story, I don't feel sorry or care about this dark alphahole at all. He should be gone for good!

Why are there people Villainsimping for him after everything he did? They even want to ship him and Roxanna so badly...
For example: Killing in cold blood Asil, throwing Roxanna's mother in danger and killing Cassil's men who were just trying to find him.
Would they still adore Dion, if he doesn't look like the typical ideal good looking novel/drama bad boy? I don't think so.
I think he got off a little way to easy.
There is no question of accountability or restoritive justice.
Redemption just happened to him due to Roxanna who never gave up her humanity or crossed a line.

Of all Roxanna's siblings it is Jeremy who do lots of atonement, reforming and rebuilding.
Dion is just hanging around and still bothering obsesively his sister /the FL.

Videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7oi-4iDplg
Why Are We So Obsessed With Characters Being Redeemed?

MangaAnger9 May 24, 2021 12:26 am

For once, I am glad that the scheming powerful manchild emperor isn't the ML for the badass FL who doesn't develop any romantic feelings for him like a shaken naive intimitated maiden. She is a queen.

About Yugi being Yesuh's ML... Why not? It is very subversive.
While I would have prefered Hahae, he would have been also the convential attractive masculine ML with high power status.
If you think about it: AHHON AND HAHAE are the typically overused alphaholes type.

MangaAnger9 May 22, 2021 10:18 pm

Who is tired of seeing modern ordinary Korean woman reincarnating as a beautiful skinny priveledge light skinned virgirnal princess who is targeted by any assholes and bitches?!(/TДT)/

    mzonia May 22, 2021 11:24 pm

    there are some good ones but generally they are all the same, though we all will keep reading them no matter how shitty they are, no?

    littlewolf1022 May 23, 2021 5:09 am
    there are some good ones but generally they are all the same, though we all will keep reading them no matter how shitty they are, no? mzonia

    I beg to differ, though most of these stories are cliche but theyre definitely not shitty. If anything, these korean manhwas are better. Chinese manhua that romanticizes rape-thats my definition of shitty
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    mzonia May 23, 2021 6:50 am
    I beg to differ, though most of these stories are cliche but theyre definitely not shitty. If anything, these korean manhwas are better. Chinese manhua that romanticizes rape-thats my definition of shitty ╮(... littlewolf1022

    i'm not calling the cliche ones shitty, don't get me wrong bestie. i'm trying to say no matter how basic and boring they get we will keep reading them. and manhuas? some of them are good but generally all of them are the same and has the same artsyle to the point majes me wonder if there is a program called "manhua creator"

    MangaAnger9 May 23, 2021 7:01 am
    i'm not calling the cliche ones shitty, don't get me wrong bestie. i'm trying to say no matter how basic and boring they get we will keep reading them. and manhuas? some of them are good but generally all of th... mzonia

    Eventually some people will get tired of it or outgrown it.

    Cee May 24, 2021 1:02 am

    I love it more when people tells their own stories and keep it original. It's because I want people to try to be themselves, show what they want to tell. At least that's what I want.

MangaAnger9 May 22, 2021 10:13 pm

A character with obvious strong powers to struggle mentally against her own pathetic smug evil parent...

That is why I enjoy these FLs in The Monster Duchess and the Contract Princess, Cheerful Countess Sister, The Way to Protect the Female Lead's Older Brother and Untouchable Lady who can almost single handedly destroy their shitty family especially the scum father without the help of an annoying arrogant ML!

Well healthy kind MLs are actually involved but the FLs are the driving fearless force.

MangaAnger9 May 20, 2021 3:10 pm

Another tsundere manchild abusing his power to torture/mistreat the struggling FL...

And she has to fall in love for the bloody asshole she wants to escape/get away from...

https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/i-became-the-secretary-of-a-tyrant.94530/
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MangaAnger9 May 20, 2021 4:54 am

I have a very hard time to like, forgive or sympathize with John...

I think he kinda got off easy when you fought against Sera who was still quite soft on him. He was quite very entitled, sadistic and whiny.
So you keep hurting others just because you feel so guilty and unworthy etc...
He is a violent manchild who didn't realize and admit his own mistake until the FL saves with him with her empathy/emotional labor.
And let's not forget he has a very smart and loving father in his life...

Let's see how he is going to atone for his shit actions.

    bl00dyn0se May 21, 2021 10:42 am

    I feel like he was brainwashed by the police or smth, and that made him act and feel those strong emotions that pushed em to do it. I don’t condone his actions, and I fr agree with you, just theorizing

    MangaAnger9 May 21, 2021 12:38 pm
    I feel like he was brainwashed by the police or smth, and that made him act and feel those strong emotions that pushed em to do it. I don’t condone his actions, and I fr agree with you, just theorizing bl00dyn0se

    My guess is that the officials just broke him psychologically to make him feel more guilty more harmless which of course didn't last long.

    John deliberately make himself in public a cripple to punish himself...
    It was a very stupid decision because at the end he became everyone's target and a ticking time bomb.

    Alenira June 10, 2021 3:04 am
    My guess is that the officials just broke him psychologically to make him feel more guilty more harmless which of course didn't last long.John deliberately make himself in public a cripple to punish himself...I... MangaAnger9

    I wouldnt call it a dumb desision, it was his way to making amends for all the ppl he had hurt. He made himself a target and was fine with it.
    He only broke when Seraphin became a target to, because the ppl that should have had her back.. traight up abandoned her.. Arlo. for one..
    Alro knew John had powers but was hiding them and yet he pushed and pushed. Then the Seraphine kidnaping happend and she needed ppl to protect her, yet Arlo was like "john has power, he sould do it on his own".. Bur Arlo She IS also Your friend.. yet you abandoned her to John and then complain of him going mental..
    Also the "corectional officer" definetly messed with Johns mind.. he not only showed him instances of him hurting ppl but also physicaly punished him for it for months.. and he nit picked the "bad" behavior and memories and has supressed the good or better ones.. He wasnt rehabilitating John.. he was making a Time Bomb..

MangaAnger9 May 19, 2021 11:02 pm

That evil god is of the few most likeable, grounded and modest isekai protagonist I ve ever seen!
I personally feel more invested in his motivation/goal compared to the other already popular male isekai characters.
Rooting for the villains knowing that the outside world/the human world is full of assholes... Another example: Maou no Hisho

Power Fantasy Stories like Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken and Overlord are about former lonely miserable salarymen being reincarnated as very op deities - They both have this larger than life ruler vibes - One is a noble hero and the other is a priveledged villain.
One of the differences between these two op MCs is that Rimu had to gain experiences and train to become unbeatable but still very blessed with special cheats and powerful allies (Dragon, skimpy Demon God Girl) while Ainz has already everything he needs to easily conquer the world and brutally mercilessly defeats his opponents who are not all evil jerks.
And I wish both of these stories would have less sexualized female character designs and not the trope "more than one devoted girl being crazy about the isekai hero".

    fuku May 27, 2021 6:55 am

    his simple kind personality makes it all the more interesting tbh imo he's somehow kinda hard to read which makes the moment where he just shows his apathetic side regarding cruel actions like a natural disaster makes you think he really is an evil god

MangaAnger9 May 19, 2021 10:27 pm

Of all dark isekai or fantasy stories about the MC being a Skeleton this is my favourite.

I really prefer this Skeleton Soldier over Ainz Ooal Gown/Overlord.

To be frank, I can't really sympathize with the character Ainz at all because he is a former bored lonely miserable salaryman who suddenly becomes an already invincible deity and is given an overpowered status, abilities, kingdom and army. And he has two devoted/obsessive crazy demonic girls always fighting over him.
Now he spend his time behaving like a terrifying mighty villain, conquering the whole New World, enslaving all races and making his followers and mostly unlikable generals happy...
The only character I liked in this story is the demon butler Sebas Tian.

I relate more to the motivations and portrayal of the characters in
Maou no Hisho and Isekai Apocalypse MYNOGHRA.

MangaAnger9 May 18, 2021 4:45 am

I also find it creepy that the Uke in the first chapter short story is 16 years old...

Just why?

MangaAnger9 May 15, 2021 3:50 pm

How would you describe this Seme/ML?

I think there is a fitting term for his kind... I don't know of...

He is not a nice guy, playboy, fuckboy, badboy or tsundere jerk.

But he is definitively damaged, toxic and obsessive...

So what is he?

    FanGirl♡ May 15, 2021 3:51 pm

    Obsessive and obviously dominant?

    Maya-kun May 15, 2021 3:53 pm

    I believe their relationship is toxic for them...

    MangaAnger9 May 15, 2021 3:54 pm
    Obsessive and obviously dominant? FanGirl♡

    And emotionally too dependant on the Uke.
    He has no self love for himself.

    Xion May 15, 2021 4:13 pm

    Possessive is also a good way to describe him

    FanGirl♡ May 15, 2021 9:17 pm

    They all sound about correct

    MangaAnger9 May 15, 2021 9:25 pm
    They all sound about correct FanGirl♡

    Would you say he is also very psychotic?

    FanGirl♡ May 15, 2021 9:43 pm
    Would you say he is also very psychotic? MangaAnger9

    I think that will depend on what's actually happening behind that secret door, like what the hell they are doing in there

    Maya-kun May 16, 2021 12:15 am
    Would you say he is also very psychotic? MangaAnger9

    No, not me. U know, love can make u do many stupide things, and he happens to have grown up in a toxic environnement. He is just craving for affection and love, so when he sees the first person (his hyung) of his lifz giving him affection, then he does everything and anything not to lose it.

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