MangaAnger9 May 15, 2021 3:41 pm

You can already see or guess this is a typical glamourized soapy story about how beautiful the innocent FL is and where everyone (rich powerful jerks) is starting to become obesessed with her.
And let's not forget the romantized tsundere bad boy her ML who won't let her go no matter what....

    Anon May 15, 2021 4:00 pm

    Most of the stories are like that but there are some exceptions

MangaAnger9 May 14, 2021 1:57 pm

But why does a bully victim has to turn into pretentious tyrannical villain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1geZagL73k

How Hollywood Vilifies Bully Victims | Cheyenne Lin

I rather deal with Carmilla (Castlevania) than Yohan that narcissist

    IWantFood0_ May 14, 2021 2:02 pm

    So true, Yohan is a little fucker, Carmilla was at least a fucking badass

    MangaAnger9 May 14, 2021 2:16 pm
    So true, Yohan is a little fucker, Carmilla was at least a fucking badass IWantFood0_

    I didn't like that the author has to make the villain/antagonist a former helpless bully victim.

    There is also the possibility that Yohan get the same sympathetic treatment as Kylo Ren...
    SOAPY LOGIC

    pruple_royal May 14, 2021 5:41 pm
    I didn't like that the author has to make the villain/antagonist a former helpless bully victim. There is also the possibility that Yohan get the same sympathetic treatment as Kylo Ren...SOAPY LOGIC MangaAnger9

    I actually like what the author did because it just says that because your weak or a victim before doesn't automatically make you a good person.
    It also says that because you were hurt by others in the past doesn't mean if you got the chance you would be any different from them.
    What this guy wants is just power, he wants to be able to control everything and be the strongest so no one would ever be able to look down on him and he doesn't care what he has to do to get there.
    Yohan also doesn't want to be betrayed by those around him so he kills them off, just like what he said to Baal that he saved his life but Baal wants to kill him now. Our victim yohan killed the one that saved his own life, he is not a good person and there is no reason you can give to make what he is currently doing ok.
    Sorry for the rant.

    MangaAnger9 May 14, 2021 6:00 pm
    I actually like what the author did because it just says that because your weak or a victim before doesn't automatically make you a good person.It also says that because you were hurt by others in the past does... pruple_royal

    Good point

    MangaAnger9 May 14, 2021 7:10 pm
    I actually like what the author did because it just says that because your weak or a victim before doesn't automatically make you a good person.It also says that because you were hurt by others in the past does... pruple_royal

    But personally I am tired of seeing this trope of the victim turning into the ultimate villain.

    IWantFood0_ May 14, 2021 7:40 pm
    But personally I am tired of seeing this trope of the victim turning into the ultimate villain. MangaAnger9

    It's kinda realistic though, some victims turn evil due to trauma. Well Yohan deserves a slow painful ride to hell

    MangaAnger9 May 14, 2021 7:58 pm
    It's kinda realistic though, some victims turn evil due to trauma. Well Yohan deserves a slow painful ride to hell IWantFood0_

    But many victims don't. I am also a bully victim and I spent years to recover from my traumas. Of course, I have still murderous rage but only towards all kinds of bullies.

    It is refreshing for me to see the character Issac in Castlevania Netflix.
    Once a tortured dark skinned slave, then a devoted follower of Dracula due to their shared hatred towards humanity and finally a ruling happy king who wants to move forward and build sth more peaceful sustainanable.

    MangaAnger9 May 14, 2021 8:07 pm
    So true, Yohan is a little fucker, Carmilla was at least a fucking badass IWantFood0_

    I felt kinda sad for Carmilla's death. (I was actually more sad about Lenore's suicide)
    I really understood/sympathize with her and her motives.
    But she became too unreasonable and mad. I guess she forgot her limits and got too stucked in the past.
    At least she died as a hardass queen on her own term.

    How come I like and relate more to Carmilla than the shitbag Yohan even though I am male, was bullied, neglected and never raped...?

MangaAnger9 May 13, 2021 7:19 am

Is the Brainless witch the most bizarre sympathetic character you ve ever seen?

    Spoopy ┐(´(エ)`)┌ May 13, 2021 1:56 pm

    Yes ngl I haven't seen a character like her so far maybe a bit similar, but not as this interesting

MangaAnger9 May 9, 2021 8:13 am

Novel Chapter 236
Jeannie and Robbenin met after 10 years but Robbenin couldn't recognise her.Jeannie became popular by summoning high rank spirit Underior.It is the water dragon spirit.Everyone praise her and call her a saint but Robbenin called her fake.He told her she is weak.This irritate Jeannie.She was going to start a fight with him but Ash step in and stop them.Robbenin told Ash that Jeannie is fake saint and deciving them.Even Jeannie's laugh is wicked.Robbenin also said he should have killed undine.Jeannie use Ray as whip and try to hit Robbenin but Ash stop her and injured himself.Ash was holding Robbenin's sword.Jeannie decided to remove the sword and then fight Robbenin.Ray eat Robbenin's sword.But Jeannie didn't knew that it was Pedrey family's hairloom.When Ray eat the sword Ash begged Jeannie to bring the sword back and Robbenin was shocked.
Chapter 431
I don't know what happened in previous chapters but I guess Robbenin and Jeannie had a big fight.Both of them almost died from that fight.Jennie's water dragon spirit save her by giving her super rare spirit egg.When Jeannie woke up she saw Ray in front of her.Jeannie look outside of the window and thought about her and Robbenin's fight.Whenever she saw Robbenin she gets angry and wanted to kill him.She thinks god send her to this world to kill Robbenin.She even almost kill herself while fighting with Robbenin.To Jeannie her life is precious but she don't understand why things go that way when she saw Robbenin.She thinks it's her punishment for not forgetting her previous life.
I think most of this novel is about Jeannie and Robbenin (the sword master).When she was 10 she got motivation from Robbenin (she want to defeat Robbenin).Even after they met 10 years later they still fight and Jeannie still can't defeat him.Robbenin is super talented and powerful and the only one that can compete against him is Jeannie.Thats why he irritate her.Jeannie make the goal of her life to kill Robbenin.On the other hand Ash is warm and pure.Jeannie is also warm towards him.I don't know who is the male lead but given by these circumstances I think it's going to be Robbenin since Jeannie spend most of her time thinking about him and most of the time rough ml wins again sweet ml.

Robenin and Jeannie
Actually, Robbenin IS Jeanie’s fated one (not romantically, though)
Jeanie met god [of something]. God explained about Jeanie's spirits but I don’t really remember what it is about haha. It's something about how Ador (The lightning spirit) is Jennie’s spirit because Jennie is afraid of the dark (This may refer to when Jennie is trapped in the tunnel where she died before, but I’m not sure). God also explained about Ray but, again, I don't remember the explanation :blobdead:
Then god said that Jeanie has a fated person. He said Jeanie already knows this person. He also revealed that this person has golden eyes
Jeanie was like, “Oh, is it Ash? Well, it’s not bad!”
But then god said that that person also has red hair :blobjoy:
Jeanie realized god meant Robbenin and thought she doesn’t want any disgusting relationship with Robbenin
She thinks about Robbenin's little brother and decided that she will find him and confess her love to him (It couldn't be him because Robbenin’s brother has green eyes) :blobjoy:
At the end of the chapter, god said Jeanie's and her fated person's relationship doesn’t have to be in a romantic sense
(I think I remember the MTL translated it as “a fated opponent”)

    ninanana May 9, 2021 8:23 am

    I really hope Ash is the ML I do not like that red head arrogant dude who harmed undine aggghhh

    aces bae May 9, 2021 8:36 am

    Wtf that red hair bitch (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸

    MangaAnger9 May 9, 2021 10:00 am
    I really hope Ash is the ML I do not like that red head arrogant dude who harmed undine aggghhh ninanana

    Based on the NovelUpdate Spoilers he is the ML for Jeannie

    MK♡♡♡ May 9, 2021 10:00 am
    Based on the NovelUpdate Spoilers he is the ML for Jeannie MangaAnger9

    That's great to hear!(▰˘◡˘▰)

    maiii May 9, 2021 10:46 am

    why is he being such an ass and continue annoying the shit outta us ( ̄∇ ̄") he’s the one who insisted to fight with her the first time! now he’s acting like a big shot smh

    MangaAnger9 May 9, 2021 10:51 am
    why is he being such an ass and continue annoying the shit outta us ( ̄∇ ̄") he’s the one who insisted to fight with her the first time! now he’s acting like a big shot smh maiii

    Archetype/Stock Character: A prideful careless super talented war crazy fighting asshole who sleeps around and wants to be the strongest warrior in the world.

    You see this type in any many shonen, martial arts, action or fantasy mangas, manhwas or manhuas. They are quite annoying.

    7812 May 9, 2021 1:32 pm

    I fucking hate that red head

    EMang3 May 9, 2021 1:50 pm
    I fucking hate that red head 7812

    So glad everyone here feels this way cus other people have said they liked the red hair guy and it’s like... where have you been? Don’t you see how much Jeanie hates him and how much he’s hurt her. He’s an asshole

    7812 May 9, 2021 2:04 pm
    So glad everyone here feels this way cus other people have said they liked the red hair guy and it’s like... where have you been? Don’t you see how much Jeanie hates him and how much he’s hurt her. He’s... EMang3

    EXACTLY people love abusive asshole men...

    Anne May 9, 2021 2:26 pm

    ash and jeannie kiss soo....

MangaAnger9 May 9, 2021 7:57 am

Majo To Kiketsu No Kishi is the first manga that actually portrays witches as very powerful and smart.
In most mangas, manhwas and manhuas about witches they are often very restricted, helpless, fragile and victimized.

MangaAnger9 May 9, 2021 6:16 am

We see in chapter 5 that the witch MC can transform wood into a golemlike monster....

But why was she portrayed so helpless in the 1st chapter???

I think it is a rule that the FL is always weak in front of the dark haired ML in the genre.

    Your Random Manga Reader May 9, 2021 6:17 am

    The start of 1st chap is in the future soo she could have lost her powers or somethin

    Your Random Manga Reader May 9, 2021 6:19 am
    The start of 1st chap is in the future soo she could have lost her powers or somethin Your Random Manga Reader

    Plus shes trying to not do bad things so her being a witch wont be known and since they didnt use magic restraining cuffs so they prob dont knoe shes a witch so no need to use magic

    MangaAnger9 May 9, 2021 6:48 am
    Plus shes trying to not do bad things so her being a witch wont be known and since they didnt use magic restraining cuffs so they prob dont knoe shes a witch so no need to use magic Your Random Manga Reader

    Good point.

    Since reading Claymore, Absolute Witch and Majo To Kiketsu No Kishi I prefer seeing very strong witches who are very strong and more bold.

    MangaAnger9 May 9, 2021 6:50 am
    Good point.Since reading Claymore, Absolute Witch and Majo To Kiketsu No Kishi I prefer seeing very strong witches who are very strong and more bold. MangaAnger9

    who are scary and more bold.

    Brainless Witch

MangaAnger9 May 8, 2021 5:40 pm

The cursed multitalented bloodthirsty tortured tyrant prince...

This is the last title of this genre I will tolerate.

If I see the word tyrant once again in a new story I won't bother reading the first chapter/page.

MangaAnger9 May 7, 2021 7:35 pm

If you prefer stronger chubbbier FLs:

Webtoon BIG JO
TV show: SHRILL

MangaAnger9 May 7, 2021 7:21 pm

I wish Queen Bitch Melissa and snob maid Yona (BEWARE OF THE VILLAINESS) would beat the shit out of red haired angry cocky violent bad boy Ren.
I resent the very likely outcome that he will fall in love with the FL whom he bullies and she in turn starts to care for him as a dear close one after she sees an unexpected good soft side of him... That is such a classic toxic trope...
I don't care about his messed up upbringing or sad backstory. He is a bully who likes to intimidate, frighten or threaten powerless people.
And it is obviously that the crown prince is the ML who was not smart enough to communicate or be honest with the FL...
That revealation or plot twist has been overused as an excuse for a shitty ML since the Abandoned Empress.

The misunderstood verbally (sometimes physically) abusive cruel or neglectful ML who is misunderstood because he had no guts/backbone and was incapable of doing smart decisions in the first timeline...

MangaAnger9 May 7, 2021 3:41 pm

The overused basic idea/premise about manhua/novel stories about Chinese Cinderellas or priveledged rich girls being targeted by everyone for being so beautiful and not like the other girls...

Is there actually a manhua story about a very unconvential FL who doesn't get pushed around by immature alphaholes or being easily harrassed by dumb evil jealous bitches??? A Chinese plot that doesn't center about girls/women stupidily fighting over rich violent jerks???

    Tea May 7, 2021 3:52 pm

    To my knowledge most mangas that are Chinese are really cliche and have similar art. It's kinda sad

    MangaAnger9 May 7, 2021 7:31 pm
    To my knowledge most mangas that are Chinese are really cliche and have similar art. It's kinda sad Tea

    What I find sad about is they are written by women who don't mind romanticization of any form of abuse.

    Shahnoosh May 21, 2021 7:05 pm

    Not to mention it can't have effect on some readers .
    Boys being over-protective or over-controlling is not cute and romantic nor hot and charming

    Tomasakinkie July 23, 2021 1:18 am

    Read Quick Transmigration Cannon Fodder’s Record of Counterattacks novel

    Or

    Cheating Men Must Die manga

    MangaAnger9 July 23, 2021 4:01 am
    Read Quick Transmigration Cannon Fodder’s Record of Counterattacks novelOr Cheating Men Must Die manga Tomasakinkie

    CMMD is so meta and the best ^^

    Tomasakinkie July 23, 2021 4:57 am
    CMMD is so meta and the best ^^ MangaAnger9

    Ikr? MC is very badarse, she doesn’t take anything from those who oppose her and I live for that (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

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