MangaThinker's Topics (942)

I saw it as when you see professional, you think of males. Like when I think of professional artists I think of old men; meanwhile when I think of someone with the hobby with drawing is a female. Just like cleaning, you think of someone who professionally cleans they’re a male & someone who’s “suppose” to clean is the women.

I dont rlly consider it as "friendly", i just think she has conscience. You know someone is being friendly to you then of course she shouldnt be rude right? And she cannot really cut them off in her life because her string of fate is entangled with their's. You cannot really change the fact that u will interact and socialize with them when you are in a NOVEL and holds a significant character. Maybe not as planned in the novel, they will and certainly meet and bump into each other.


So bottomline, she just have conscience and she's in a novel and holds a significant role.

Personally, i would do the same as Melissa just for entertainment

Good point!

I didn't start yet but thanks for the heads up. It says there's an anime tho so imma be there

I didn't read the comments and just finished reading it...

so sad ;;

Well it’s fiction you can’t really apply irl logic to it. Plus it’s also a matter of preference, it obvious since you don’t like such tropes- to just avoid them and read something else instead rather than waste time trying to read something you don’t like

she remembers but they dont also i dont think theres any other options but to accept atleast 1 of those love requests cause if she ignores all of them she’d still die, just she’ll die peacefully like planned probably

Sis please also include Abandoned Empress worst FL and ML everrrrヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

Ikr

I know, You right. But even though it is fiction tropes can be really harmful for the audience in real life especially those who takes it too seriously.
How many years did it take for me too realize that romantized rape, abuse and toxix Alphaholes are not ok in Yaoi, Shoujo, Josei or any Romance Novel.

Here is a channel I like to recommend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEKNFX7LWRk&list=PLY8-JHLY9yDPIaO3VhNdSN9Axbsw4WzVD
All The Tropes - The Take

to be fair, this isnt great literature. I just treat it like the trashy novel that it is and read it out of bordeom.

What a hellish nightmare.
I can't believe she has it far more worse than "Death is the only Ending for the Villainess".

Or Lady To Queen. What a wimp ass weak coward.

Yeahhh well I think that’s just a personal issue for everyone else. It really depends on people’s ownselves to differentiate reality and fiction. I mean not everyone who watches/reads murder stories think it’s okay to become a murderer
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I’m gucci tho, I make sure to never mix reality and fiction together and obviously know what id only like in stories and wouldn’t like irl. It’s not really anyone else’s jobs to make sure how everyone thinks is normal or has morals. That’s their guardians/parents job, just focus on whatever you think and like and you should be good rather than worry

I won't argue on the "it's just fiction" part since others have already elaborated on it but, the problem with these villainess reincarnated/transmigrator stories is that the summary always baits the reader into thinking the MC will actually get her revenge or straight up leave and have everyone wallowing in regret.... this nearly never happens *insert never as advertised meme here* Personally, I keep holding out for a true runaway FL which it why I torture myself with all these. I always tell myself to read just up to the part where the ML (and possibly her family) beg for forgiveness but EVERY FRICKIN TIME, FL suffers faaaarr more than anyone else. Some of these are honestly horror stories imo

That is so true.

For instance, Actually, I was the Real One + The Young Lady is A Royal Chef + Suddenly Became a Princess One Day and other stories about the FL suffering under a neglectful abusive murderous Tyrant father and his accomplices... She always forgives and sympathize with them despite knowing they have mistreated the original host very badly!
I also don't like the male characters in "When The Villainess Loves". MC is basically the ideal sweet positive happy to go luck saint that makes every asshole who looked down on the misunderstood Villainess interested in her (╬￣皿￣)凸

Rare badass exceptions where the FL does succeed her own agency and not forgive (unless her opponents are really down):

Beware Of The Villainess + The Pet Of The Villainess + Slow Prison Life (novel/webtoon) + Untouchable Lady (Novelupdate) + Death is the only Ending for the Villainess (Very painful to read) + Daisy - How to Become the Duke's Fiancée (Plain FL very competent)

I do not like pathetic titles like "Please Throw Me Awya" + "Your Majesty, Please Don't Kill Me Again"Σ( ￣□￣||)

Suddenly became a princess, claude didnt hate her without a reason, but the reason isnt revealed yet so we’ll have to wait and see, also When The Villainess Loves, i dont think she actually realizes that shes giving off that vibe to the others and she doesnt actually realize their feelings for her she just takes them lightly i guess, and the story doesnt have anything wrong with it, not every story has to have a badass fl and litia isnt an airheaded wimpo either

Well Claude did threaten and tried to kill her more than one time. And I can't stand the fact other characters didn't do anything how Claude mistreated his daughter.
She was blamed by him for her mother's death - His only great love. Very typical hate reason.
We can already guess that he was secretly mindcontrolled by someone else. The late perfect excuse that a goodlooking tortured cruel soul like Claude can't be accountable for his actions. Let's be real: Would you still root for him, if he wasn't portrayed that shiny handsome and subtily sympathetic?

I think everyone should explore their inner rage especially allowing Female Rage against men.

Of course the MC in WTVL isn't self-aware because she is the unintentional Harem princess after all. It is debatable that she isn't a lucky airhead.
Everyone has its own definition of badass and my problem with many FLs is that they never really fullfil/succeed their initial plan/goal because at the end they get tenderized/undermined by irresistable jerks/MLs...

Royal chef... I have real beef with that one. To have the MC forgive that sh*t family on behalf of the og FL is going too far! She's not the one that suffered their neglect and abuse! It doesn't matter if she is an abuse victim herself（/TДT)/ that's not how it works!

Also, about Suddenly Became a Princess, we get a side story where MC meets up with the original FL in a different timeline and after telling everything that happened; why her father treats her like that, the original storyline, etc. FL decides not to forgive her father, becomes Empress, and rules wisely. What. A. QUEEN!!!

Also also, Beware the Villainess *chef's kiss* perfection MWAH

As for Pls Throw Me Away, I kinda want you to rethink reading that one. Both FL and ML are both victims of longtime child abuse and come to find comfort and solstice in each other. They both respect and rely on one another and it's honestly pretty wholesome.

I hate it that every character in Royal Chef brushes off the mental illness and suicide attemps of the original host so easily as it was nothing but childish... （￣へ￣）

Forgive me, but Are you sure that the FL Athanasia doesn't forgive CLAUDE at the end?
Because the webtoon shows clearly that she still currently running after and taking care the Dad ML... And many official illustrations show them both as endgame.
Please spoil me more in detail about Claude and his older scum brother ending. (⊙…⊙ )

In Please Throw Me Away FL isn't capable at all to liberate herself on her own despite getting access to powerful magic. It is the sympathetic dark knight who comes to save her more often. They are really both great for each other but she is helpless without him.
That sucks.
Now when you compare Adele with Daisy(Lisabel)... They are not much different from each other when it comes to very miserable circumstances.
The main difference is that Daisy embrace actively more of her inner Female Rage to become more competent on her own. Her ML is a calculated bonus.
Adele on the other hand is more slow, passive and relies more on luck considering things just keep happen to her.

I identify more with Daisy because my inner rage and radical self-realization helped me to free myself successfully from my toxic family.

Ah sry maybe I worded it poorly. Our MC forgives Claude but in the novel side stories, she uses magic to meet up with the original Athy from the book and tells her about future events to save her. I don't remember it clearly since it was a while back but the original FL ascends the throne in that timeline and chooses not to forgive Claude. As for spoilers... the amnesia arc is already different from the novel so idk what will happen also. Lucas was supposed to hit Claude in the head with the world tree branch legit the second he returns and bam his memories return author decided to change it up *sigh* the "brother" isn't even the real brother anymore apparently...

As for Please Throw Me, I haven't seen raws or read the novel but I feel it's alluding to her becoming super op and badass. I'll be completely disappointed if she doesn't.

So it was the original Athy! Thanks.
Fantasy Novels like this gets more unneccessary convoluted far-fetched and too conspiratorial.

the other mls ?? apart from blondie dont seem like jerks though, maybe litia wont end up with them and they’ll just lover her till their deaths or ANOTHER guy appears and they end up tgt instead? big heartbreaking moment if that actually happens