Yes redhair ! You doing it right! Sort out what you want to be, focus on yourself for now. You made your intentions clear, now it’s pan‘s turn.
Honestly I think it’s quite realistic and I do like that they have this distance right now. Both weren’t ready for a relationship. Red hair is not mature enough and was never in love and pan has been „single“ for a longer period of time, not to mention the obvious age gap they have. They are at different stages in their life and that’s why they have to somehow overcome those stages a bit. Pan has been very hurtful to red hair but it must be pretty frightening for him too and I guess now he has to realize whether or not he wants him as a boyfriend, whether or not they are ready to commit. It’s not about moving in, it’s about the fact that he doesn’t even know what qui studies. So they should first clear the basic levels before even thinking of getting together
right. i really think this distance was needed :)
Okay i have to say something for this manga: I think this plot is obviously nothing normal and nothing we can relate to, since that’s not the average life and plot and we have to keep that in mind. I think asami and Akihito have come a long way. We all know that when it all started this was a mess, toxic and also non-consentful. But that was like the first few times (If this was a normal manga I’d obviously cut the camera with this manga but it’s not and that’s why this whole situations went down differently). They pretty quickly developed a mutual trust and started to really care for one another since they started living together and stuff and obviously their relationship turned consentful. And even though they still haven’t confessed to each other they basically said that they can’t live without each other like probably midway through the manga. So it has been a while since they established that and now the last 10 -15 chapters you really see it, and feel that they love each other. It’s incredible and I have to say that they definitely have a healthier relationship than probably most of the fluff/normal daily life mangas and that’s why I’m counting this manga to one of my favourites. I’m waiting for the day in which they literally (not just shown through actions like now) confess their love.
Really like this comment, I really love them and loved watching their development, this is amazing, they're amazing!
i completely agree! im not one to preach, but i was about to drop the manga but damn, i freaking LOVE THEIR RELATIONSHIP NOW! so good ヾ(☆▽☆)
One great example of the subtle change in their relationship is that extra chapter where they celebrate Akihito birthday. Aki was looking for a suit for one of his job and then Asami offered to buy him one tailored one... he told him it's almost Children's day celebration anyways. Meaning, it's his gift for Akihito birthday (which happens to be the same day as Children's day). He got him a fancy suit, took him for dinner in an exclusively booked fancy restaurant while keep teasing him about Children's day. Akihito gets all shy knowing that Asami is actually doing all that for his birthday although he actually never mentioned it. Aki tells him that a simple game would have been enough for him. Asami takes him then to Macau on his private jet to have fun at a Casino, lol. At the very end, when they are both in bed in their hotel room, hugging each other, Asami takes a discreet look at a sleeping Akihito and whispers : Happy birthday Akihito. My whole point is that their love is undeniably present but it's shown exclusively through their actions and never through confessions or words. Ironically, that makes their story more believable. They are still consistent with their true nature and I love it so much more that way! I don't mind if I never see them confessing their love. How they treat each other now worths thousand times those I Love You words...
I definitely agree with you!! Their love really shines through all of those little moments, details and actions and I’m 100% here for it. I also think that it’s not necessary to say these words to see that they love each other and I guess momentarily this also would be kind of out of character, but yeah I wouldn’t mind it at the end of the manga or something like this. And not as a confirmation, no we all know that they love each other, it doesn’t need confirmation. The I love you would be more of a bonus I guess. There are some things I just want to see to see their reactions. And a confession is one of those things. Another would be asami blushing or getting flustered. It’s not a must but more for my own satisfaction ;)
I couldn't agree more! I am actually dying to see Asami blushing! Haha! How cute it will be *-* And by the way, I loved your post! Thanks for sharing some meaningful stuff here. This comment section was all flooded by trolls lately. Glad to see there are still normal fans around here^^
Double thumbs up!!
I meant to upvote orz
Sudo the creepy crazy ass is gonna rape aki. Wait next chapter
Thank you :) I can also give that compliment back to you!! ^^
I love how this convo turned out.. Sorry guys, but I just can't help joining in this thread since we all love asami and aki for sure. I've been a fan of these two since forever and I'm glad that there are still loads of people who love them as much as I do. From the anime, and now to manga and up to this chapter. The hate-to-love relationship was just inevitable given their two different worlds.. As Aki said, he's falling in deeper with asami, not just in the underworld but also head over heels of love for him. Aki's sense of justice is really too damn strong, but he's weakened when it comes to Asami.. I love how their characters evolved and how they slowly fall in love with each other.. Even if both of them don't admit it verbally, we can feel their love through and through.. I love those scenes where Aki shows his 'tsundere' personality to Asami, but once he's kissed by Asami, he just becomes too damn adorable that sometimes, even I can't resist.. ~pinch cheeks~ They both totally are from different worlds but they are absolutely united with love... ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
That was one of the best moments... at the end of the birthday extra when Akihito said he feels like he’s dreaming and Asami quietly says Happy Birthday Akihito. It was just so... blissful. <3
Also I love that sensei always includes a lot of panels of Asami just watching Akihito like when they were stranded on the island, there were many panels of Asami watching and indulging in Akihito’s bright smile.
Wonderful how sudo raped him. His ass is irresistible!
well, i was about to drop it after first episode because it was just to much toxicity for me but since i read what you said i will give it a try once more and finish the first volume. The story apparently seems worth it and i really am looking for a long and nice manga(〜￣△￣)〜
Another shipper of this duo here! I can't get enough of them. And just like you said, a lot of us probably were expecting Akihito (the uke) to fall deeply and quickly in love with Asami since it's the usual cliche in Yaoi. But it actually was not as sudden as we thought. Aki resisted all the way and he is still resisting because of his integrity and sense of justice, stubbornness and honesty. He once told Asami (after surrendering to him): I will never be your ally. Aki is now head to toe into Asami. He might risk his life for him. But if it comes to justice somehow, he won't submit to him. I love that aspect so much. I also like that Asami softened very gradually and is not the typical sexual addict/sadistic nor the lovey dovey kind of Seme. He is just perfect and makes me melt at almost all his latest interactions with Akihito. Sensei did such a wonderful job with the relationship of these two and I hope she will keep going the same way.
True! I loved every single panel of that chapter. Asami admiring Aki was so lovely! I don't know if you remember, but he did the same in the chapter where they both celebrated a Japanese festival (I don't remember the name). Aki wanted to watch the fireworks and he told Asami to get home early so they could watch it together. Aki ended up being stuck at work and couldn't make it on time. He arrived home all sad only to find Asami dressed in traditional Japanese outfit waiting for him to celebrate together. Aki put in the outfit, all happy to watch the fireworks. He was smiling and drinking champagne... Asami deeply looked at him. Get him closer and kissed him *-*
In the chapter where they celebrated Akihito birthday.. they were doing it in the bathtub in front of the window, Akihito was contemplating the view and said: "it's so beautiful". At that same moment, Asami was actually looking at Akihito and replied: It's beautiful indeed"!! Soo cute *-*
oohhh nice...good to hear that you had a change of heart... ლ(´ڡ`ლ) I would recommend you read it together with the blcds.. its just really good. Aki's pants and screams were just aahhhh.... heaven... (▰˘◡˘▰)
aaaahhhh my thoughts exactly!! tsktsktsk..... like they said, great minds think alike ^_^ there are a lot of yaois out there, but this is definitely one of my faves.. I can't wait once Sensei releases a chapter where Asami blushes or gets flustered coz of Aki.. Coz we just usually see him calm and quiet, the actions-speak-louder-than words type of guy.. I mean, I can barely imagine how he looks like... the hottest seme of all time acting such a baby...(▰˘◡˘▰) I think he is way cuter than Aki when that happens ^_^
When sudo raped him?
Who is Sudo?
Oh I agree! Cause even though aki is in love with asami, he still stands behind his ideals and justice. Actually because of that he makes asami more of a „human“ person. At least I think since he met Akihito he’s a lot less ruthless and coldhearted and is also able to show his „casual“ self.
Oh yes I love moments like this!! Just seeing asami in another perspective and another side of him. Even though he’s still this cold ass person,kinda sadistic too, you definitely see the difference a lot, which I enjoy seeing. Like he basically went from thinking that Akihito is an interesting person he can occasionally toy with, to thinking he’s so important that he can’t do without him anymore. That’s major. And sensei did that in such an authentic way because it seems believable and not out of character
oh no... what I meant the blcds from the start of the manga.. Aki and Asami's scenes I mean.. sorry if that was misunderstood ^_^
Haha I didn’t even realize how many bad situations this manga had before the uke said it himself : cousins,age gap, teacher/student you name it -they got it
Okay i like the Story because of the mangaka and the art and I also liked the premise.
I personally highly disagree with the uke’s behavior of the past, betraying your brother like that is capital A asshole behavior and for me a no go. He and the boyfriend are to blame for that and both are bitches for doing that honestly and I totally get that the aniki cut both of them off.
For me cheating is something that is just an absolute no go for a relationship and destroys it forever. The trust that is once broken can’t be repaired so of course people that cheat don’t deserve a second chance in the same relationship. When they get one. Lucky, I personally wouldn’t be like that.
And esp if a constellation like that would be the case: partner cheats with Brother/Sister, Mother/father, best friend or anyone really close to you.
the boyfriend of the aniki seduced him, so that makes him the slightly bigger asshole in this constellation. But that doesn’t mean that the uke isn’t to blame. Since everything went consentful soo... that’s just my support for the uke aniki.
But that doesn’t mean that the uke doesn’t deserve a second chance of love with another guy. Cause he does. It was a mistake but as long as he doesn’t cheat on the seme now it’s okay for him to be happy.
And since they both genuinely care for one another I’m happy when they’re happy. But one thing, it could’ve been less forcing from the uke. He had like one sentence that was really rapey but since they both are kinda aggressive I guess I’m okay with it for this couple
I think the uke was in middle school at the time, so while he’s also at fault, I think him being underdeveloped/(immature/a little kid) also explains his behavior.
Stop uploading this on here this fast! At least wait a bit so that people also purchase it on lezhin.
At least have the decency to not be completely egoistic. At least let the mangaka earn money with her own work.
Yeah you might think: "huh but I'm already reading on here" or "you're already reading on here". That might be true, but just because we already do something that is problematic in itself, it doesn't mean we have to be the maximum assholes about it. And to read a chapter the same day, the next day, or the same week in which it was officially published, on a site which doesn't help the author in any shape, type or form, that is indeed maximum asshole behavior, because you just shit on the fact, that this is the weeks work of a person, for which she doesn't get paid because people read it here immediately
Edit: lol people disliking this: either you honestly still didn’t realize that what we do here is not okay at all or you just see this comment as a nuisance to your peace because you don’t want to be confronted with the FACT that authors like Mingwa don’t get their weeks worth of work paid and therefore just ignore the fact to feel better about doing it and disliking this comment because it exactly interrupts your “ peace “
Honestly even though it makes me sad, why natori is an m, cause honestly a lot of it stems from him being not self confident (disclaimer: I don’t think that every m is someone that has no confidence whatsoever, probably most of the time they are very confident, like chanwoo from bj Alex), I do really think their relationship is healthy and wholesome. He suffered so much and it’s so nice to see how rui is helping him through all this and helping him get better. I really hope that in the future he’ll be able to think of himself as a good person deserving of love! Really like this couple and story
This is an example of non consenting almost rape, this is a person being completely knocked out: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/warai_hitsuji_to_naki_ookami/uu/warai_hitsuji_to_naki_ookami-chapter-1
Soowha was drunk, couldn’t walk but he sobered up. Maybe not portrayed realistically but thats the authors fault. He was in a state in which he could identify where he was, with whom he was and what he was doing. Soowha was able to decide. He ACTIVELY choose to say: don’t stop and let’s continue. So I don’t understand why people think, he can’t be reliable for his actions. We didn’t get any indication whatsoever of him not being able to consent because he’s completely out of it/ not awake and we also didn’t see him struggling to get away in any kind of way (physically/mentally/verbally). Like what more do you want. I get you don’t think this ideal and I agree it’s not. PEOPLE SHOULDNT JUST COPY THIS BEHAVIOR! (For me it’s self explanatory but for safety reasons, I have to say this). In this specific couple in this manga, this is okay. This is a couple, that is having a healthy and loving relationship. Both of them like having sex with each other. They are horny af, which isn’t realistic either but yaoi logic. In fact they wanted to have it that day. Soowha was able to actively say, he’s doesn’t want to stop and yohan stopped and waited to continue after being told that he should continue. Yeah his reasons “for punishing” was also not appealing for me either. But I think the author honestly didn’t want to portray it that way. Would kinda be atypical for this couple.
There are couples that do have drunk actions like that and for real life purposes you need to clear things up with your partner and don’t just assume it. Because yes taking advantage over someone thats out of it, is a thing and that should be avoided at all cost
But yeah here it’s honestly not rape. Gray area yes, rape not
I don't think you can assert that he knew where he was or was conscious enough to consent. It's difficult because it's a story, but I do community education on sexual assault, and given the fact that he literally could not walk, determine that he was home until he saw/heard Yohan, and didn't respond to prompts but instead just kept repeating "my butt hurts" would suggest to me that he could not consent to sex. While I agree they love each other and to a degree have a form of pre-consent for situations like this, and while Soowha comes to and isn't upset with the situation, nor was it as violent as is portrayed in other BL stories. At the end of the day, legally speaking for a majority of places, this is sexual assault aka rape.
This also wouldn't be the first time that they have assaulted each other while the other is unconscious in this comic alone. They literally assault each other without consent all the time.
Yeah that’s the part which is not logical to me and that’s why I at least think that the authors intention was to show a very drunk soowha at the beginning (when he was carried home) and when they sleep together he’s sobered up to an extent in which he was able to do all the things I’ve said about and also give consent. Since you can’t take a situation before as a time to give consent, but the time when they have sex. I know it’s definitely not realistic to sober up this quickly in real life. But this manga isn’t realistic in a lot of ways and I honestly believe that the author didn’t want to make it into one of these “punishing the partner rape” stories. Like I said I think it’s a gray area and soowha actively consented when yohan stopped to wait for him to say: continue or stop.
But I do absolutely agree and like I said, this manga or any bl really shouldn’t be taken a guide for any relationship or being made into an example for how it’s supposed to be (apart from the very few that actually are 0,00% problematic). I also agree that this scene they had, could be potentially considered as rape. If you change just a few „little“ things in this situation we could have had another „Dakaretai Otoko Ichii Ni Odosarete Imasu“ chapter 25. I’m still raging about that one chapter.
But yeah here with soowha and yohan I would say it’s a gray area which honestly could And should have been avoided, but i don’t think it’s rape. It could have been if some factors were different.
sorry I’ve yet to read the whole story :! But honestly this isn’t the story that is intended to be without consent in the sex. There are these couple that have these kind of set rules for i guess situations like that, which is are then verified again when actually being in this situation. That still doesn’t mean real life is like that or other mangas with scenes like that, are like that - this is all individual and obviously can’t be assumed for everything and everyone
lol I’m coming back today to see if I’m honestly the only one not liking this story. I came back to see if I’m the only one criticizing the fact that the uke wanted to sleep with a person not awake, basically sleeping with a person not being able to give consent, then being saved by the fact that the seme was waking up and having sex with him ( still a big gray area, at least in other manga featuring this “drunk situations” people are adamant to call it rape, even though those people were couples and consenting and here you have strangers and one of them is blacked out, thinking of the dude as his girlfriend and drunk (And the uke IS using that fact for his advantage) but since the seme is drunk and the uke not, everything is Gucci and we don’t need to worry about lack of consent, the seme has given, isn’t it.) And if that whole situation isn’t enough, he’s fooling the seme and acting as if it’s the Fault of the seme the next day. Giving him a guilty conscience and yes he redeems himself and the rest is fluff but obviously he never admits what happened in this night, soo maybe I’m the only one that doesn’t see this lie as a harmless prank. because lying about something like that in real life could potentially lead to a person being charged for rape, even though they are innocent, but hey, it’s fiction we ignore it. I wouldn’t even complain about this if people seriously would see this as a problem, but here I am reading a comment about how this story was so fluff and a very warm welcome after all the romanticized rape Yaois. If you want to read pure and wholesome manga there are a few, but this is just a fluff which saved itself in the last second from being such a yaoi story like the above. Not judging anyone liking it, but I am judging the fact that I don’t see any not even one comment about it. Just : “he redeemed himself” - he did regarding his personality but not about this lie
yea I couldn't go on after i read the first chapter it was just ugh, I enjoy drunk sex with my boyfriend but we're together and he knows that I like having sex when drunk buuuuuut in this manga he raped someone that he knew was straight, totally drunk and started to have sex with him only because he tought it was his girlfriend,
like yea immagine waking up in the morning with a stranger(rapist) and being told that you assaulted them when it's the other way around I'd beat them to death not go out with them
I agree, delete the first chapter and it's actually a really cute story. But I don't like how uke took advantage of the drunk seme
He wasn't going to though, he literally says 'too bad I'm not interested in a passed out drunk' but then the drunk dude is persistent. Even though he definitely had ulterior motives from the beginning, and absolutely he gave in easily to said drunk mans advances, he very clearly wasn't expecting or enthusiastic about being on the receiving end, said several times that it was too fast, rough etc.... like I'm not condoning drunk sex with a stranger, but also how tf do you be so drunk you don't notice a dick? And the uke didn't say he was forced, he said it was so rough he was aching, which is believable. He didn't demand anything from their 'relationship' and after impulsively kissing him reset the relationship to friends himself. Also, he DID tell the truth, when he broke it off so the seme wouldn't get fired for turning down the proposal.
Again, I'm not condoning sleeping with a drunk stranger, i just feel like if you're going to have an issue with the story you should pay attention to the details first is all.
wow well the thing that you seem to miss is that he was so drunk that he literally didn't notice he was with a Man he tought he was with his girlfriend,
have you ever been SO drunk that you didn't recognize the people around you? that nearly always happen, and not only that but you literally can't really think or reason
so saying that he was rough is laughable because he wasn't in himself since hello... he was pissed drunk its like been really high on drugs
and the uke was going to have sex with him he just wanted to have a shower first, and saying that the seme give in fast is ridiculous HE TOUGHT HE WAS WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND, and he wasn't in himself
from the way you talk you seem to never have been really drunk and not remembering what you did the day before
Agreed
Yep, after reading the first chapter I'm bailing, I hate this stuff.
Not sure if you’re just ridiculous or just a kid.
Liking rape tropes doesn't make you mature.
I kinda hate how smug pan is. Like don’t act as if nothing has happened and as if you’re in the right. Like please. I want to root for you but not if you don’t apologize the right way and earnestly. I can’t stand when people get things their way even though they barely did anything. (Kinda like the seme from miwaku shikake - ugh I hate that bitch). Pan is obviously not nearly as bad but it still doesn’t sit well with me.