I've always enjoyed "The New World" but when I heard that solo in that Sound Euphonium episode it took on a new resonance for me. Always a pleasure to see it crop up anywhere.
I'm so sad that Ruri-kun's musical aspirations were cut short because the school admin was so short sighted. I hope the story rights that wrong, somehow.
Weee are the champions, my friiiiend.
And we'll keep on fighting, till the eeeeend.
This feels like the most hard won confession in the history of BL. Camilo, I salute you.
How was that student not suspended, *at least*, if not expelled, as a well known repeat offender? Gross.
Right!! I mean it's clearly not his first time pulling something like that and almost everyone seem to know about.
Cuz it’s college. There’s not that much of an interaction between the professors and the students, so there’s nothing much to do.
More jamaicans.. I feel at home already
i can only think about two reasons either they didn't report it to the school(which is very unlikely) or they just gave him a restriction order, which means you can't be anywhere close to that person that you have been told by the restriction order not to be around them - i know very long but ye maybe thats why???? idk maybe it was because of another reason either way i done want him to touch our baby
dont*
Except in the classes every day, and tutorials, various societies, student government etc? Plus, there's a whole school administration body. Doesn't have to involve professors. I think Mystical Fire has better explanations as to why. And I can think of more myself. I'm just disgusted and annoyed>:(.
Yeah. It's so clear that the guy is not at all repentant and it grosses me out that he's running free. These sort of problems are getting a lot of media attention in some places so I'm especially sensitive about it. This happens too often in real life.
I hope that at least there's a restriction order in effect. At least!
Jamaicans inna every ting <3
I know right but then again I forgot where the story supposedly takes place so who knows maybe in the place where it is set the deal with it differently???
They*
kiki,do you love me?
Raay nuh tru
me too
I go to college, and if it’s done in the halls and no one with a high rank sees, it’s just as if it hadn’t happened. At least here.
then again it depends what type of college you go to because depending where you go they will pay more or less attention because from what I've heard private colleges tend to be more stricter and tend to care more since its a smaller group so yeah
or sometimes they won't report it cause it could ruin the schools image and some colleges care more about their image than about the actual students
are you riding? say you never ever leave from my side yeah cause I want you and I need you
I go to a private college and I insist, it’s not like that
ohh ok
I find Jiyoon suspicious even though I'm not sure why but I can't stand persons like Eunbyl who agree to a no-strings-attached physical relationship abut get pushy and possessive when their partner is romantically interested in someone else.
Who am I supposed to like ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
for our cutie DG. This was the opportunity! I usually love kissing but all of those panels should have been replaced with DG's dick in his mouth. We know that after he wakes up he's gonna be an absolute nightmare and crush DG's emotions so I just wanted him to at least have the BJ Alex experience.
I guess we can't have everything in life.
It would be good if some of us stepped back and remembered that the omegaverse itself--this idea of humans going into heat, having uncontrollable hormones, alpha/omega biological nonsense etc--is rape culture. It's the very foundation, columns, walls and roof in this world building. Right?
The idea that persons can't control their sexual urge, it's just natural "sexual drive"; that the women "came on to them"; how pregnancy is then used to control because men are natural leaders/providers/caretakers/dominant--all of this are actual lies people use in real life to justify and excuse rape. The omegaverse makes the lies "come true" on the page.
And I use women deliberately. Even though the omegaverse features same sex couples the creators went out of their way to imagine a system in which only one of the partners can reproduce and in which that partner asserts power through their sexuality because they have limited resources. The group that's richer, influential, more political power etc is the other, the man/alpha. And omegas get stereotyped the same way women do IRL with the same roles: mother/slut who is said to bang her way to the top/arch schemer out to "catch men" by having their children etc. It's inherently misogynistic.
Idk that it makes a lot of sense to "pick sides" or at leasthot how I see it argued here. Consent as we (ought to) understand it does not exist. This story from beginning to end is such a toxic sexist tale from alphas who will "make" persons have their babies and knot their asses like a literal *dog* ffs, to omegas who "rape" these hapless alphas because they can't control their hormones.
This doesn't mean that any of us are a horrible persons for enjoying the story but it would help to be a bit more real about the whole thing. It's playing up to some of our worst biases and prejudices. Trying to analyse the story to find out who's at fault is a fool's errand, IMO.
Exactly. So why aren't people accepting that Dojin was raped too?
Perhaps because some people only define rape as involving penetrative sex of some kind. Which is not true. This is why the "we can separate fact from fiction we know rape is wrong" defence of BL is not persuasive when readers themselves do not even know what rape is. This is not entirely their fault. This is an issue that exists all over the world and so many of us still need to learn more about what consensual sex looks like and what are harmful behaviours.
You're wrong. Did you even know that omegaverse is where both the seme and uke lose control? The first time, Hye sung is the one who sucks Dojin's dick.
Also, I was the one writing a third of the comments so I know what's going on.
I agree it's not their fault but even when faced with the concept, they act like they don't wanna understand. That's what pisses me off.
Ok
It is WEIRD to bring this up in a title that is so deliberately absurd and over-the-top fucked up, but goddamnit, did we have to get an "I know I'm gay because I attacked someone" narrative? And have readers go Omg Realism (TM) and ignore the harmful bigoted stereotype? We have ample evidence of both of their feelings before. Why choose to crystallize his identity at that moment with that framing? The situation is sympathetic enough.
If I could trust Ogeretsu sensei to follow through and turn these harmful myths inside out I'd be intrigued. Instead, she tends to create these special toxic cocktails mixed with top shelf "realistic" ingredients sourced from the best and worst places. (The manga with the domestic abuser is Victim Blaming 101.) Of course, the kid frightened by an unwanted sexual advance returns as a manipulative blackmailer.
WHYYYYYYYYYY
I'd prefer high school orgies, tbh. Makes no sense to go for pathos here. Or at least this way.
To pre-empt: "Kiki, you're terrible/stupid/why are you reading it then!?!?!?!/you don't understand anything/I don't agree with you so disappear/I didn't even read your post but I hate you/Leave Ogeretsu Sensei Aloooone (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
ehhh i didn't interpret it like that at all ○□○ to me, i think shikatani has always liked the guy and had the desire to have sex with him, so hewas hopeful and just advanced in the heat of the moment, taking all his chances and a hint of desperation; especially after he saw the guy with that girl. i think it was more of his wishful thinking that the guy would pick him and so he just did it without thinking. as for the guy, i think he wanted to maintain their friendship(as the starting showed him waving to shikatani goodbye), so he didn't say that shikatani was at fault. and the guy has always had a soft spot for shikatani and so wanted to protect him in a way. but that's what i derived from reading this chapter and i'm sorry if i took your time Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
Hehe, no need to apologise, I willingly spend my time commenting and reading after all. And I'm always happy to read calm, measured disagreement.
But yeah whether he did it in the heat of the moment or not, Shikitani did it without his friend's consent, implicit or otherwise. They hadn't discussed their feelings to come to an understanding and he didn't ask before doing it.
Ikemen scans came and saved this title. Bless <3 ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ I know they musta translated the whole thing. Off to reread.
eh?!?!!? so they saved it after it got licensed? Q
i thought it was licensed after they working on it/? :'D
oh gosh, this licensed matter is really bad for my heart... ( T﹏T )
LOL all these comments about the cuteness and purity. All I can think is that this woman is straight up annoying. She acts less like an inexperienced adult woman and more like a nun who lived on a mountain with no access to the outside world.
Why does she bark at him every time they get marginally more affectionate? Why is she so surprised at the idea that a couple may want to kiss every day? Has she never watched a movie or read a book in her entire life? She needs to cover eyes *with her hands*? They can only act like a couple when they're alone? Now he's gonna buy flowers like a normal person and she'll either freeze him out or have a complete meltdown.
I get it, I get it. She didn't have a good Mummy so she locked her heart and body away, cleaving to no one blah blah blah. Idk, her behaviour makes me think of a rape survivor (sort of) than having a slutty Mummy but whatever. If I'm not charmed soon I'll drop it.
I don't think you get it. Acting like a rape survivor? Really? So, you are going to drop it because Sooha doesn't behave like a typical ditzy woman in a romance webtoon? It's not just about her mother, it's about her father's suicide as well. She was a child who walked in on her father who had hung himself. Leaving her and her mom by themselves. So, someone she loved left her. Plus, her own mother never shown her affection, left her alone to chase men and pushed her away. She's not used to hugs, kisses and holding hands. She also walked in on her mom having sex at a young age and that traumatized her as well. She never had an example of what being in love is like, showing affection. She classfied it as being unnecessary until she started to like Taesoo. Sooha is the opposite of her mom. She's an awkward woman emotionally damaged and has never had a relationship with a man. She's trying at least, slowly but surely.
Well, drop it then if you find her annoying
I swear people like you don't understand that healing doesnt happen overnight. It's really ignorant for you to call her annoying when it's obvious that she's damaged and probably needs therapy. Its people like her in the world you know? Try to be open and understanding and if not drop it. I'm sure the webtoon will do fine without people like you (plus it's number 1 right now)
You realize she didn't just have a "slutty mum", right? The woman saw someone she loved hang himself.
Everyone has their own pace. Nothing wrong with that.
Who were the 12 dumbasses that agree with this immature comment?
She went through some shit and took it hard. Not everyone who has a traumatic past comes out strong and confident or turns their past experiences into their strength. I say this but I kinda feel where you're coming from, but only cuz I've never met anyone like that so it's hard to sympathise with her character. But comparing her to a rape survivor is too far.
A Diffrent Topic and way
Think about Do you Have no Friends Who are Forbinden to date someone??? because of there believe, Or who so Focus on there study they longer feel anything about haveing a relastion due there life time, or that they perants depemch them only to do that.
do you think someone can easy fall in love with someone, they can bascly be broken from deep inside then outside do you really think people can easy talk about it or be open by it???
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Now about this webtoon
She traumatized Some in her postion can Have freking long time to recover and she always think how her mother is acting how she think of the people around her, not only that but not that she is in her First relastionship It super awkward and hard for herto begin with But she try to opver come it for him. Same with her past of school life She made sure she was on her self but whoul;d go for oher although they joke around sometime she just going to there marrige, listen to there sad story, eat with them but still feel that her live.
Really Those 14 people who liked your comment Have no respect on her life or With anyong in the real world, you guys should shame your self you the type of people people bother with real live problems.
you only think about Happy lovely romance stuff butt Most time in those story there no real problem all the same good and little bad problems but nothing like this.
If you Hate it Just drope it, it clear to know you dont understand some thing not
You either didn"t get her story or you're just close minded. As all the people above said,she was traumatized and abused since she was a child and how could she possibly know what if feels like to be love if she didn't get affection at all till now?? Even if it's fiction,it's based on real life events too,that's how real life works too.
I just don't like how the character's written. It's not that deep. And you may not be widely read if you think the only alternative someone may have to this is "ditzy woman in a romance webtoon".
I forgot about the father's suicide. The psychological realism still isn't there for me but *shrugs* people have different tastes. Why do readers here always take it so personally when someone doesn't like a title they do? It's hilarious and sad at the same time.
That's not at all my point. I don't expect her to be a sunshiney person I just don't find her behaviour realistic or persuasively portrayed. Her extreme reactions strike me as actually very manga--the blushing, the covering of the eyes for a kiss etc That's why the comments are full of "this is sooo puuuuuuuure" responses. My issue is that I can read that in BL and kyaaaa but once we get into josei-like territory I get a lot more critical lol.
Lots of manga/manhua/manhwa creators (pardon my spelling) like to sprinkle violent trauma stories like it's seasoning because it's an easy shortcut to drama and sympathetic MCs. Counterintuitively, I often prefer when the trauma is treated lightly *or* is in an over-the-top, melodramatic storyline because it's not easy to get the balance right. The balance in this story was right for me up and until the romance started--then I found some of the things the female MC said or did create a big question mark over my head. It's not that she's just skittish about dating or being physical--she acts like she never heard about the concept before until Taesoo (we kiss?!?! omg.) But of course it leads to a lot of cutesy moments where everyone blushes and the crowd goes kyaaaa and I react the way she did over the flower giving on tv.
Why is comparing her to a rape survivor a bad thing...? (Persons here state she's an abuse survivor anyway so is that better somehow or...?) I came up with that as a way to explain her behaviour to myself. It would make more sense to me if she herself had experienced something physically traumatic (rather than only witness it). But, tbh, that explanation doesn't really gel for me either. The character doesn't work for me *shrugs*. Not a crime. No idea why everyone is here acting like I insulted their Mama. Thanks for the reasonable disagreement.
Ah, let me amend that. The female MC works for me in every respect except with the romance where she strikes some false notes. I have friends who have experienced serious violent trauma--not witnessed it, lived it---and I don't see much similarity at all. Which doesn't mean much beyond being a possible explanation as to why this doesn't work for me. I know this is a crime on Mangago though.
I get where your coming from, my head fills with question marks since the romance part on why she does the things she do as if she never heard of love before. I think they should portray her backstory more on why.
Exactly.
It's a difference between never hearing about love, and not knowing what love is. I'm pretty sure she know love existed. She didn't want this type of love, she thought it was unnecessary. She also have seen people get together before, you clearly didn't read her past story well. Her past story is fine.
I did read her past and I never said anything wrong about her past
Damn this thread is a warzone. Personally I do understand why you chose to use "rape-survivor" but you have to remember that words will set off these bombs called "readers". It's a pretty crude way of saying it but it does deliver the point.
Yeah I do get your point. There are some instances in the manwha where their actions (even taesoo's) make think "wuttt. Why?" I mean I can't imagine myself sympathizing with sooha or taesoo's character at all, but out of respect for people who actually end up like that because of their past traumatic experiences, I try to enjoy the plot as it is and not for their reactions. Also what I meant when I said comparing her to a rape survivor is a bit too far, I mean unless you have met one yourself, I don't feel like that's a good comparison to make. I mean there are women and men who go through such experiences but can hardly be compared to sooha's character at all. Some people are not that weak. That's just what I believe but thx for explaining your point of view.
I agree
I'm used to it--doesn't phase me. Appreciate your response tho :)
Ah, I see where you're coming from too. I don't know if that would help me since I can't imagine a real person with a past like Sooha letting a stranger live with her in the first place, gay or not. But other parts of her seem realistic and interesting, and the plot itself is nice, so there's much to enjoy. (I do have friends who are rape survivors but I don't think that makes my point there any more effective. Kengoldentree did a really good comment further up to explain her behaviour.)
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I really value calm disagreement that actually engages with what I wrote! You're a gem. ヾ(☆▽☆)
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Mingwa
We gonna get our sweetie DG a new man or what? I know that you know that I know that you know we gotta take him somewhere fresh. This Alex shit is staaaaaale. Throw the whole thing away.
Ahh I would love to see that! (´▽｀)
My thoughts exactly