Ikemen scans came and saved this title. Bless <3 ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ I know they musta translated the whole thing. Off to reread.
eh?!?!!? so they saved it after it got licensed? Q
i thought it was licensed after they working on it/? :'D
oh gosh, this licensed matter is really bad for my heart... ( T﹏T )
LOL all these comments about the cuteness and purity. All I can think is that this woman is straight up annoying. She acts less like an inexperienced adult woman and more like a nun who lived on a mountain with no access to the outside world.
Why does she bark at him every time they get marginally more affectionate? Why is she so surprised at the idea that a couple may want to kiss every day? Has she never watched a movie or read a book in her entire life? She needs to cover eyes *with her hands*? They can only act like a couple when they're alone? Now he's gonna buy flowers like a normal person and she'll either freeze him out or have a complete meltdown.
I get it, I get it. She didn't have a good Mummy so she locked her heart and body away, cleaving to no one blah blah blah. Idk, her behaviour makes me think of a rape survivor (sort of) than having a slutty Mummy but whatever. If I'm not charmed soon I'll drop it.
I don't think you get it. Acting like a rape survivor? Really? So, you are going to drop it because Sooha doesn't behave like a typical ditzy woman in a romance webtoon? It's not just about her mother, it's about her father's suicide as well. She was a child who walked in on her father who had hung himself. Leaving her and her mom by themselves. So, someone she loved left her. Plus, her own mother never shown her affection, left her alone to chase men and pushed her away. She's not used to hugs, kisses and holding hands. She also walked in on her mom having sex at a young age and that traumatized her as well. She never had an example of what being in love is like, showing affection. She classfied it as being unnecessary until she started to like Taesoo. Sooha is the opposite of her mom. She's an awkward woman emotionally damaged and has never had a relationship with a man. She's trying at least, slowly but surely.
Well, drop it then if you find her annoying
I swear people like you don't understand that healing doesnt happen overnight. It's really ignorant for you to call her annoying when it's obvious that she's damaged and probably needs therapy. Its people like her in the world you know? Try to be open and understanding and if not drop it. I'm sure the webtoon will do fine without people like you (plus it's number 1 right now)
You realize she didn't just have a "slutty mum", right? The woman saw someone she loved hang himself.
Everyone has their own pace. Nothing wrong with that.
Who were the 12 dumbasses that agree with this immature comment?
She went through some shit and took it hard. Not everyone who has a traumatic past comes out strong and confident or turns their past experiences into their strength. I say this but I kinda feel where you're coming from, but only cuz I've never met anyone like that so it's hard to sympathise with her character. But comparing her to a rape survivor is too far.
A Diffrent Topic and way
Think about Do you Have no Friends Who are Forbinden to date someone??? because of there believe, Or who so Focus on there study they longer feel anything about haveing a relastion due there life time, or that they perants depemch them only to do that.
do you think someone can easy fall in love with someone, they can bascly be broken from deep inside then outside do you really think people can easy talk about it or be open by it???
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Now about this webtoon
She traumatized Some in her postion can Have freking long time to recover and she always think how her mother is acting how she think of the people around her, not only that but not that she is in her First relastionship It super awkward and hard for herto begin with But she try to opver come it for him. Same with her past of school life She made sure she was on her self but whoul;d go for oher although they joke around sometime she just going to there marrige, listen to there sad story, eat with them but still feel that her live.
Really Those 14 people who liked your comment Have no respect on her life or With anyong in the real world, you guys should shame your self you the type of people people bother with real live problems.
you only think about Happy lovely romance stuff butt Most time in those story there no real problem all the same good and little bad problems but nothing like this.
If you Hate it Just drope it, it clear to know you dont understand some thing not
You either didn"t get her story or you're just close minded. As all the people above said,she was traumatized and abused since she was a child and how could she possibly know what if feels like to be love if she didn't get affection at all till now?? Even if it's fiction,it's based on real life events too,that's how real life works too.
I just don't like how the character's written. It's not that deep. And you may not be widely read if you think the only alternative someone may have to this is "ditzy woman in a romance webtoon".
I forgot about the father's suicide. The psychological realism still isn't there for me but *shrugs* people have different tastes. Why do readers here always take it so personally when someone doesn't like a title they do? It's hilarious and sad at the same time.
That's not at all my point. I don't expect her to be a sunshiney person I just don't find her behaviour realistic or persuasively portrayed. Her extreme reactions strike me as actually very manga--the blushing, the covering of the eyes for a kiss etc That's why the comments are full of "this is sooo puuuuuuuure" responses. My issue is that I can read that in BL and kyaaaa but once we get into josei-like territory I get a lot more critical lol.
Lots of manga/manhua/manhwa creators (pardon my spelling) like to sprinkle violent trauma stories like it's seasoning because it's an easy shortcut to drama and sympathetic MCs. Counterintuitively, I often prefer when the trauma is treated lightly *or* is in an over-the-top, melodramatic storyline because it's not easy to get the balance right. The balance in this story was right for me up and until the romance started--then I found some of the things the female MC said or did create a big question mark over my head. It's not that she's just skittish about dating or being physical--she acts like she never heard about the concept before until Taesoo (we kiss?!?! omg.) But of course it leads to a lot of cutesy moments where everyone blushes and the crowd goes kyaaaa and I react the way she did over the flower giving on tv.
Why is comparing her to a rape survivor a bad thing...? (Persons here state she's an abuse survivor anyway so is that better somehow or...?) I came up with that as a way to explain her behaviour to myself. It would make more sense to me if she herself had experienced something physically traumatic (rather than only witness it). But, tbh, that explanation doesn't really gel for me either. The character doesn't work for me *shrugs*. Not a crime. No idea why everyone is here acting like I insulted their Mama. Thanks for the reasonable disagreement.
Ah, let me amend that. The female MC works for me in every respect except with the romance where she strikes some false notes. I have friends who have experienced serious violent trauma--not witnessed it, lived it---and I don't see much similarity at all. Which doesn't mean much beyond being a possible explanation as to why this doesn't work for me. I know this is a crime on Mangago though.
I get where your coming from, my head fills with question marks since the romance part on why she does the things she do as if she never heard of love before. I think they should portray her backstory more on why.
Exactly.
It's a difference between never hearing about love, and not knowing what love is. I'm pretty sure she know love existed. She didn't want this type of love, she thought it was unnecessary. She also have seen people get together before, you clearly didn't read her past story well. Her past story is fine.
I did read her past and I never said anything wrong about her past
Damn this thread is a warzone. Personally I do understand why you chose to use "rape-survivor" but you have to remember that words will set off these bombs called "readers". It's a pretty crude way of saying it but it does deliver the point.
Yeah I do get your point. There are some instances in the manwha where their actions (even taesoo's) make think "wuttt. Why?" I mean I can't imagine myself sympathizing with sooha or taesoo's character at all, but out of respect for people who actually end up like that because of their past traumatic experiences, I try to enjoy the plot as it is and not for their reactions. Also what I meant when I said comparing her to a rape survivor is a bit too far, I mean unless you have met one yourself, I don't feel like that's a good comparison to make. I mean there are women and men who go through such experiences but can hardly be compared to sooha's character at all. Some people are not that weak. That's just what I believe but thx for explaining your point of view.
I agree
I'm used to it--doesn't phase me. Appreciate your response tho :)
Ah, I see where you're coming from too. I don't know if that would help me since I can't imagine a real person with a past like Sooha letting a stranger live with her in the first place, gay or not. But other parts of her seem realistic and interesting, and the plot itself is nice, so there's much to enjoy. (I do have friends who are rape survivors but I don't think that makes my point there any more effective. Kengoldentree did a really good comment further up to explain her behaviour.)
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I really value calm disagreement that actually engages with what I wrote! You're a gem. ヾ(☆▽☆)
One of the most annoying things in the world is a sex friend who agreed to sex friend terms and then thoughtlessly decides on their own to push for more. *Annoying*. LOL I'm super biased against whatshisface for that reason.
Well that's what being human is. People who can control their emotions and not act selfish are very rare indeed.
It's not about expecting anyone to control their emotions--it's expecting them to be somewhat considerate which is well within the range of "what being human is".
I may not be able to avoid jealous feelings but I can refrain from interfering with the other person's relationships. If I find myself making that mistake I take a step back and reflect rather than push heedlessly along. If I can't do that then I show exactly why I don't deserve to expect more from the relationship.
I liked it in spite of everything. I'd love to see it as a film done in the same fragmentary, out-of-chronological-sequence style :).
Yep, I like it to. In a way it reminds me of "The Assassination Of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story" (not sure how well known this programme is or if others in this series follow a similar jumbled timeline theme, but it was available on the BBC). Having a muddled timeline, where the pieces eventually all come together is something a bit different to the usual linear offerings.
Get you a man who thinks you're cute because you vomit.
Ayeee, island heritage!
wi deh yah <3
Taesoo should move out so they can have some space and not constantly deal with each other all the time. They keep setting off each other's insecurities and I'm not enjoying it lol.
I mean, there's awkward and there's acting-like-an-alien-new-to-the-dating-concept awkward. At least she's a million times nicer than his ex so he'll wait this out...
Supergay Scanlations, you are my hero! <3 *showers the team in confetti*
I'm actually on #TeamCollegeCutie at the moment because I will always pick the sweet, charming, loving, and supportive (with no strings) option over the older, brooding angsty types. (I'm #TeamBingley.) We'll see if Sihoon gets his act together. He's obviously Junyoung's choice at the moment.
This is the best take on an age gap, rich old/young college kid BL story I've ever read. Ji Hye-Kyung understands how power dynamics influences human behaviour. Kim Sihoon can't help but step past boundaries and take charge of certain aspects of Junyong's life, because he cares and because he can. But when you do that once, you'll do it again, even in small ways that can be rude and off-putting. And rather than encourage Junyoung to have some financial independence he prefers him to be more dependent because he's not sure wtf he's doing but he wants to have Junyoung around long enough for him to figure it out.
For JY this is all thrilling yet destabalising at the same time. He does feel small and humiliated, but at the same time heady and infatuated. His position feels incredibly insecure esp and that whole Mari misunderstanding does not help. That is the only fly in the honey for me--I want it sorted quickly because I think the story has plenty enough conflict on its own without this weird "Oppa" farce.
It is WEIRD to bring this up in a title that is so deliberately absurd and over-the-top fucked up, but goddamnit, did we have to get an "I know I'm gay because I attacked someone" narrative? And have readers go Omg Realism (TM) and ignore the harmful bigoted stereotype? We have ample evidence of both of their feelings before. Why choose to crystallize his identity at that moment with that framing? The situation is sympathetic enough.
If I could trust Ogeretsu sensei to follow through and turn these harmful myths inside out I'd be intrigued. Instead, she tends to create these special toxic cocktails mixed with top shelf "realistic" ingredients sourced from the best and worst places. (The manga with the domestic abuser is Victim Blaming 101.) Of course, the kid frightened by an unwanted sexual advance returns as a manipulative blackmailer.
WHYYYYYYYYYY
I'd prefer high school orgies, tbh. Makes no sense to go for pathos here. Or at least this way.
To pre-empt: "Kiki, you're terrible/stupid/why are you reading it then!?!?!?!/you don't understand anything/I don't agree with you so disappear/I didn't even read your post but I hate you/Leave Ogeretsu Sensei Aloooone (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
ehhh i didn't interpret it like that at all ○□○ to me, i think shikatani has always liked the guy and had the desire to have sex with him, so hewas hopeful and just advanced in the heat of the moment, taking all his chances and a hint of desperation; especially after he saw the guy with that girl. i think it was more of his wishful thinking that the guy would pick him and so he just did it without thinking. as for the guy, i think he wanted to maintain their friendship(as the starting showed him waving to shikatani goodbye), so he didn't say that shikatani was at fault. and the guy has always had a soft spot for shikatani and so wanted to protect him in a way. but that's what i derived from reading this chapter and i'm sorry if i took your time Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
Hehe, no need to apologise, I willingly spend my time commenting and reading after all. And I'm always happy to read calm, measured disagreement.
But yeah whether he did it in the heat of the moment or not, Shikitani did it without his friend's consent, implicit or otherwise. They hadn't discussed their feelings to come to an understanding and he didn't ask before doing it.