Sanquin July 10, 2019 7:24 am

Didn't expect this fairly light-hearted manga to suddenly get to serious. People actually dying huh. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind that they'll get revived but still.

If I were Rimuru I'd go to war with that human country over this. They attacked the monster nation without provocation and killed indiscriminately after all. Not to mention how they declared war themselves. This would also be a good time to call on the Dwarven nation to aid them in the war. If only to counter the barrier that weakens only monsters.

    SashaFandoms July 10, 2019 1:04 pm

    But if Rimuru declared war, wouldn't there be more monsters from the monster nation killed? No?

    Sanquin July 10, 2019 1:36 pm

    So you think it's better to just let another nation walk all over his nation, killing his people without repercussions? Plus this was a surprise attack that the enemy planned beforehand. I doubt they'd have that much success when suddenly a large army of super powerful (the monsters Rimuru evolved are all super strong by that world's standards) monsters stands in front of their gates ready to lay siege on their city.

    Mocha July 10, 2019 2:01 pm
    So you think it's better to just let another nation walk all over his nation, killing his people without repercussions? Plus this was a surprise attack that the enemy planned beforehand. I doubt they'd have tha... Sanquin

    Yeah they sorta remind of solo levelling where his summons and him defeat their enemies....and rimuru with his entire nation and allies....but I think they really won't go to war tho...somehow this will be solved without that much bloodshed...
    Cause...SPOILER!!!











    Hinata was with rimuru, veldora, shion and the others in the other manga where it contains side stories.... And they were friends......

    Sanquin July 10, 2019 3:49 pm

    Yea but that's a side story. I mean, there's a high chance you're right considering the overall theme of this manga. But I wouldn't base what might happen in the main manga on what you can see in the side stories. :P

    Mitsuyoshi July 10, 2019 3:53 pm
    Yeah they sorta remind of solo levelling where his summons and him defeat their enemies....and rimuru with his entire nation and allies....but I think they really won't go to war tho...somehow this will be solv... Mocha

    Rimuru only annihilated the 15k strong army of Farmas..so yeah not much bloodshed coz..leaving only the king to inflict his mind with a hellmarish state.

    Mocha July 13, 2019 4:49 pm
    Rimuru only annihilated the 15k strong army of Farmas..so yeah not much bloodshed coz..leaving only the king to inflict his mind with a hellmarish state. Mitsuyoshi

    Oh! Well there isn't that much bloodshed...but there is still bloodshed.. well I wouldn't be satisfied without it though....haha

    Mocha July 13, 2019 4:50 pm
    Yea but that's a side story. I mean, there's a high chance you're right considering the overall theme of this manga. But I wouldn't base what might happen in the main manga on what you can see in the side stori... Sanquin

    That's true, since they don't really show how the two characters get on good terms in the side stories

    Reio January 13, 2020 11:34 am

    Aya rimuru wouldn't stand it he will find a better way than a full out war

Sanquin July 9, 2019 10:39 pm

Most of these MCs are so weak-willed. In the latest chapter they're basically deciding on who can have him like he's some kind of property to pass around. And he just goes along with them as if he doesn't have any choice in the matter, even though he's probably powerful enough to take on a small army by himself. Same for so many other isekai stories. Luckily there are a few MCs that don't take shit like that from others, but I wish there were more of them...

    Char July 17, 2019 11:00 pm

    It really annoys me too. Do you have any recommendations of mangas with strong-willed MCs?

    Sanquin July 18, 2019 11:03 am

    Saving 80,000 Gold Coins in the Different World for My Old Age - No op powers, just being able to travel between worlds. Uses modern tech and her wits to take no shit from others.

    Potion Tanomi de Ikinobimasu! - Same author as above. Not physically strong, still an op power, but mostly uses words, manipulating others and quick thinking to get out of things she doesn't want to do. Even to the point of hurting herself (not permanently but still) at one point.

    Arafoo Shachiku no Golem Master - MC is willing to concede up to a reasonable point, but at the end of ch5 and in ch6 he decides enough is enough and basically threatens the noble trying to take advantage of him with war if the noble continues.

    Isekai de Skill wo Kaitai shitara Cheat na Yome ga Zoushoku Shimashita: Gainen Kousa no Structure - MC is OP as hell because of one single thing he can do. And he knows it. Gives me slight one punch man vibes the way battles go. :P

    Versatile mage and Rebirth of the urban immortal Cultivator - Chinese wuxia web toons, but still pretty good. And they both really take no shit from anyone. :P

    Kujibiki Tokushou Musou Harem-ken - Actually just does what he wants to do so far, rather than following what others tell him to do.

    angel1 July 26, 2019 5:52 am
    Saving 80,000 Gold Coins in the Different World for My Old Age - No op powers, just being able to travel between worlds. Uses modern tech and her wits to take no shit from others.Potion Tanomi de Ikinobimasu! -... Sanquin

    Isekai de Skill wo Kaitai shitara Cheat na Yome ga Zoushoku Shimashita: Gainen Kousa no Structure

    the dude is steadily becoming the type to get lead around and doesnt stick with any rebellious attitude



    Konjiki no Word Master...

    is a better example



    Arifureta shokugyou de sekai saikyou

    gets badass and doesnt give a shit



    Solo Leveling

    badass to the max



    Dungeon Seeker

    definitely badass



    Hero? I Quit That a Long Time Ago

    badass and hilarious



    Class ga isekai shoukan sareta naka ore dake nokotta n desu ga

    super ultra badass



    Kuro no Shoukanshi

    only listens to his goddess wifeu and everyone else can suck it



    Saikyou Mahoushi no Inton Keikaku

    strongest mage of all, just wants a break and cannot be culled by anyone



    The Reincarnation Magician of the Inferior Eyes

    still pretty new but so far he seems to fulfill your preferences



    Maou-sama Retry

    Badass OP awesomeness



    Player Reborn

    so far so good



    Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha

    about as OP as it gets

Sanquin July 5, 2019 8:29 pm

The war ended 100 years ago in his normal timeline. Yet his friends are alive and of the same age as before. And I doubt they're 100+ years old. So he's not in the past. He's in an alternate timeline. So it's far more likely that someone changed the past to erase Sid from it and created an alternate "current time" where the four races weren't sealed.

What's interesting is this "code holder" thing. It might be something that Sid also possessed to become the hero of humanity. And now he has the sword as well. So my theory is that he will indeed be taking on the role of Sid, but only to fix the timeline and return it to how it once was.

Unless he later on travels back in time to actually become Sid of course, but there's nothing indicating that so far.

    Sanquin July 5, 2019 8:31 pm

    Extra:
    That someone that changed the past must be connected to the enemy he and the "devil" encountered. Said enemy referred to the both of them as possible interferences with "the new world", as in, maybe, "the timeline that the one controlling that thing created by removing Sid from history"

    Fujoshi-san September 22, 2019 10:02 am
    Extra: That someone that changed the past must be connected to the enemy he and the "devil" encountered. Said enemy referred to the both of them as possible interferences with "the new world", as in, maybe, "th... Sanquin

    WOW
    *Salutes

Sanquin June 28, 2019 7:59 pm

I could do with a little less of the "everyone the MC gets close to dies" plot to be honest. I mean I get it, this whole manga started with the premise of tragedy and it's its main theme. But still...

    Sanquin June 28, 2019 8:01 pm

    Extra:
    I guess I'll be fine with it if the MC gets his sweet revenge on all of them. But anything less than the humans suffering a very painful death and their kingdom a really messy destruction, and I don't think I'll like this kind of plot much.

Sanquin June 24, 2019 10:23 pm

I'm wondering what the title of state master actually entails. I mean, apparently his standing is higher than even the emperor. I thought the emperor was the highest position.

    manganiME June 26, 2019 11:56 am

    His standing is not higher than the emperor. He serves the emperor. BUT...the emperor clearly fears him. So, either it's because the State Master is so powerful or has something on the emperor. I don't know what the deal is, but socially, the Emperor comes first. I'd like to know the back story on that one.

    Sanquin June 26, 2019 12:41 pm
    His standing is not higher than the emperor. He serves the emperor. BUT...the emperor clearly fears him. So, either it's because the State Master is so powerful or has something on the emperor. I don't know wha... manganiME

    Well, it probably has to do with the wings the state master sprouted. Like, he doesn't seem to be human. Maybehe's some kind of intelligent "spirit beast" with a human form, and the emperor fearing that power (or at least wanting it) offered him the position of state master to keep him as an ally.

Sanquin June 22, 2019 1:52 pm

None of them seem to be connected directly, but they're all clearly in the same universe. Well, only legend of Yao Lao and the original could be seen as connected. Since Yao Lao seems to be a prequel. I wonder if this series is really that popular in the east, for there to be so many manhua in one universe.

    meeno August 9, 2019 2:31 pm

    very popular, BTTH is one of the best out there.

Sanquin June 20, 2019 9:36 am

The first prince showed blatant disregard for his position by ignoring proper etiquette and deciding on his own who the saintess was based on his own feelings, ignoring the other woman completely. So what if his image is worsened by separating him and the other girl? It's his own fault for thinking with his private parts rather than with his head. And because of that he possibly angered the real saintess and is causing trouble for everyone around him. If anything, he deserves his standing to be lowered.

Not that Sei will do anything because she's angry of course, if she's still angry at all. I've read enough of these stories to know by now that she'll just be all like "it's fine" and "it's not your fault" and all that. I wish she did get angry though... They deserve it for how they treated her right after the summoning.

    Mece June 20, 2019 11:43 pm

    It's probably one of those situations where a civil war could be started because the nobility would pick sides. Some would back the first prince and others would back the second.

    Sanquin June 21, 2019 12:10 am
    It's probably one of those situations where a civil war could be started because the nobility would pick sides. Some would back the first prince and others would back the second. Mece

    Yea might be, but I'm still really annoyed by it. It's situations like this, where people basically try to cover up bad stuff that happened for fear of the repercussions, that results in corruption. Which eventually becomes a vicious cycle.

    Mece June 21, 2019 12:34 am
    Yea might be, but I'm still really annoyed by it. It's situations like this, where people basically try to cover up bad stuff that happened for fear of the repercussions, that results in corruption. Which event... Sanquin

    I wonder if the second prince even wants to be the king? Cuz if so that solves the current kings problem. Just knock the first prince down a peg for being an idiot and let the more responsible second prince lead.

    But if not it could lead to the second prince being forced into a situation that they would rather not be in.

Sanquin June 20, 2019 9:29 am

I know I should have come to expect this kind of fan service and harem from isekai manga, but I felt annoyed by it this latest chapter... A bunch of YOUNG kids, all fawning over another young kid like that, right after such a serious incident. Even going as far as basically fighting over who can sleep with him first. (even the male beastkin) I mean, enough with the blatant harem and fan service already, can't we just get some more isekai without this crap? =/

I'm not saying I don't like the manga any more. It's still better than a lot of them as it's not JUST harem and fan service. (like in another world with my smartphone for instance) But I still wanted to rant a bit...

    ❦Heart❧ June 20, 2019 12:56 pm

    dont worry i kinda agree, im just hoping it wont escalate anymore thant this -.-

    DigBick June 23, 2019 11:55 am

    Exactly what I was thinking. I find it cringey seeing young kids doing these sort of things.

    Yukine July 12, 2019 8:46 am

    I swear the kids are around the ages 16-18 tho I may be confused

    Sanquin July 12, 2019 10:56 am
    I swear the kids are around the ages 16-18 tho I may be confused Yukine

    They're between age 10 and 12 I believe...

    Yukine July 12, 2019 9:51 pm
    They're between age 10 and 12 I believe... Sanquin

    thanks the chapter when there was a few year skip kinda confused me as it said he was four then somehow 12 or something

    Benedict Phorr August 8, 2019 9:33 pm

    I read novel up to 130 chp and don't worry he will get only one more girl and then it's Reus's time

    IGot7BangtanBoyz September 24, 2019 7:48 am
    I swear the kids are around the ages 16-18 tho I may be confused Yukine

    They are. They registered at the guild at the age of 15

Sanquin June 10, 2019 1:32 am

Seems the main manga is pretty damn popular. This is the 3rd spin-off I've found on this site. And I doubt they would make so many spin-offs if it wasn't really popular. :o

Not that I don't understand it's popularity... :P

    K-chii August 3, 2019 2:42 am

    well so far we now have 5 spin-off's
    and i doubt it will end with those

Sanquin May 29, 2019 10:04 am

It would have been a nice ending to the story for Melodias and Elizabeth to go and live in the demon world. This new part feels like the story is getting stretched out for the sake of it. Like, as if the mangaka was forced to write a few more chapters by contract or something.

Guess I'll have to wait and see...

    OtakuRev May 29, 2019 2:56 pm

    i dunno, just imo, i felt the "ending" was flat, something was missing like the reunion between brothers with clear heads and zeldris just suddenly went out of the picture while fighting the demon king. I'm actually a bit glad they continued it but how they will handle the rest, i dunno

    arebg452 May 30, 2019 12:09 am

    I'm actually happy it moved on, since there were way too many plotholes and rush in the original "ending." Had it ended like that, it would've left a bunch of questions unanswered and it wouldn't have made any sense. For instance, Baltra looking for a successor, that clearly needs to be Arthur but Arthur is dead so far (?), and Zeldris just pretty much disappeared, even though they made an effor to build him as a character, which made no sense whatsoever. I'm a bit bothered by the trolling of the "Epilogue" crap, but I'm happy we are going to have a propper ending that ties everything the way it should.

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