After chapter 36, season 1 ends.... so it might be a while before season 2 starts again hhhh the cliffhanger i can't
Okay just read the raws for chapter 36 and.......g o d damnit i love them ㅠㅠ i don't want them to have conflict ever ㅠㅠ they're the cutest and i want them to be lovey dovey always. this is one of the very few unproblematic omegaverse BL available, i hope it will continue to be non problematic *crossing fingers
may i know where did you read the raw for chapter 36?
I bought it!
oh my god you're awesome! :o i'm envious ><
Sorry but.... why would anyone find this so touching or cute that they cried? Which part of this is cute??? Hyunsung was traumatized so much he nearly killed himself and there are people who find it cute that he stayed with his abuser???
The story started out interesting but the conclusion is just like other toxic bl mangas out there. Like.... why put a "fluffy" scene like that at the end? It would be more realistic if they ended up together in a very toxic, very dark and abusive relationship, because that's what they are. Hyuk stalked, blackmailed, raped and traumatized hyunsung, while hyunsung had stockholm syndrome. They both only stay with each other because of codependency--why paint it as something sweet?????
And why would anyone want to be in hyunsung's shoes, i can never understand.
Stop glorifying toxic and unhealthy relationship, folks.
right??? like i understand the idea of exploring dark themes but...this aint it chief
Exactly. I thought hyunsung would be bat shit crazy at the end because of how fucked up the things hyuk did to him-- but nah. They're lovey dovey now. And the comments from the other readers who glorify their relationship, they really make me sick to the stomach.
Damn, i regret not reading this earlier! It's so freakin funny and lighthearted yet my chest hurt all the time i was reading it. It was good. The dialogue is so well written. Uda is a true champion and the uncles are adorable.
I agree with some people who are pissed with shiba, especially with how he treated tokizou even after realizing that he was in love with him the whole time (going through with the marriage, making tokizou write the best man speech, etc). But at the same time, i understand him too. It's not easy to dive in new waters when you're old. It must be scary, realizing that your bestfriend has been in love with you (not to mention for 25 whole years), and shiba wasn't gay in the first place. People are saying that he didn't make any sacrifice, but i think he did. I think people are too used to have straight characters in fiction to "turn gay" with no problem whatsoever that they forget how hard it is. It must have taken a lot of courage for him to ask tokizou to be in a relationship with him. Gee, it's hard enough to ask anyone to be in a committed relationship with you, harder still when it's your bestfriend. Not that i approve of his ignorance, but i appreciate him trying to make things right for tokizou (who is the biggest cinnamon roll ever, i love him). The stakes are high here, and i think those two uncles did their best.
Kudos to the author for writing something pretty realistic and fresh for the BL community, and for the translator who really did a great job. This is one of the best translation i've read for mangas.
Cmiiw but tamaki seems asexual? Or maybe repulsed by sex, or at least not interested currently. Either ways, i hope shii doesn't pressure him to have sex when he's not ready, or god forbid, rape him...
I-I don't think he would... he's different... but y'know, you're right, we can only hope for the best and prepare for... the worst.
Yeah I kinda instantly lose interest if one of the people forces themselves on the other, maybe because I've never experienced that desperate feeling to understand it. But I still really like the both of them. Good paving work, sensei.
Yeah, i have high hopes for this manga. But the author's previous work (hishakai shindo) has a totally unnecessary sexual assault scene that makes no sense and it's really disappointing. I'm biting my nails here, i really hope nothing like that happens in this manga.
Uh-huh...in fact, even if just makes sense enough to sit well with me...I w-wouldn't be that disappointed?
Gahhh, you see? I just desperately want to keep liking this manga
Me too!
Y'know, I took my sweet time but I'm all caught up, up to chapter 5.5!
I was thinking, reading the chapter from Tamaki's pov that I really wouldn't forgive Shii if he jumps him, after all. It would be too much for Tamaki, and in their case, wrong. He shouldn't have to handle this. But I have faith in Shii! I'm sure it wouldn't go that way. He's a pretty great guy, and their relationship is more than that.
I do question this faith, because I've read Hishakaishindo, I have this feeling of uncertainty... but Shii is really completely different from the protagonist of Hishakaishindo. Let's give him that.
I really hope so too! I like what i've been reading so far but atst i have an uneasy feeling near the end, particularly with how he said he "finally got to kiss and hug tamaki". But yeah, i hope it won't turn out like that. I guess i've just been let down too many times by bl mangas who put non-con sexual scenes out of nowhere that i have trust issues now lmao.
it would be nice to get some ace rep, but i'm pretty sure that that's not the direction the author is planning to go with this
Uh-huh.
Yeah. If we look closely at Tamaki's words in chapter 12 (volume 3) "I said "I don't like it." I said the same thing to my mom a long time ago.", it looks like we won't be getting ace representation after all. And he was smiling in that panel. I'm kinda afraid of what's to come.
No one:
Absolutely not a single soul:
Akino and Meguro: but is it gay if we want to kiss and hold hands and hangout all the time and do sexy stuffs and oh we also don't want to be with anyone else but with each other? are you sure it's gay? what if we say no homo though?
Gave the manga a chance despite the underage and rape (which i extremely hate) but..... the author just went and made tengoku exploited aoki's childhood trauma? And from psychological standpoint, how the fuck is it going to help him heal? How is raping and abusing someone "cure" their fear of abuse itself? Had tengoku offered help to aoki, discussed the terms, and the two consensually fell into a bdsm relationship properly, then it would have made more sense. But here tengoku just treated aoki like absolute shit, and we're supposed to believe that it helped him? No thanks.
that nurse does not even know about it, he's not trying to heal him, he's just playing around...
He knows, he's heard aoki saying "mom i'm sorry" and i bet he can put things together. And even if it wasn't the case, my point is that the author clearly wanted us to think that way: that tengoku raping and abusing aoki somehow cured his childhood trauma. Which is clearly wrong.
he did? okey then,also, i just can't agree with u, he told him that he only wants to play around and their last time talking he was telling him to stay the way he is, an easy pry... and for an author that knows and is writing about traumas, r they stupid enough to cure a trauma with anther? tho i know from where your misunderstanding start about the so called rape trope, i am not gonna explain unless u ask but in conclusion, there is no author , editor, etc stupid enough to agree on such simple in-thoughtful idea...
First of all, there are a LOT of authors/editors/companies who has and will write such non-thoughtful ideas. How many yaoi mangas that build the romantic relationship of the MCs based on rape/abuse? A lot. There are a lot of shitty gay mangas/flicks out there written and sold just to satisfy straight women's sexual fantasies--no matter how demeaning or damaging it was for gay community.
Second of all, obviously idk this author enough, and i admit i was wrong to assume their true intention. But what this manga (and raws) implied to me is that tengoku was helping aoki overcome his trauma, eventhough so far what he did was raping and abusing him. This can be seen by how aoki seemed to feel better after some of (non-consensual, let me remind you) sexual encounters with tengoku. And we can see that aoki repeatedly relate those sexual encounters with his mom's abuse.
The author might want to say that aoki could overcome his past trauma because tengoku helped him "rewrite" his memories with his mom, so he found out that pain can be associated with something good too. And I would have agreed with that, IF tengoku and aoki consensually fell into a proper bdsm relationship. But they didn't. Tengoku raped aoki and repeatedly called him a toy, ignored his demands, etc. Of course the author didn't say outright that "trauma can cure trauma" but it is what implied here. Because the fact remains that tengoku did abuse aoki, and aoki did feel better after tengoku raped him.
This has been done countless of time. There are tons (and i mean, TONS) of other yaoi mangas which excuse rape and abuse in gay relationship. Those authors usually give some kind of backstory/reasons so that we readers can forgive those behavior easily. For example, abusive/bullying boyfriends are usually depicted as someone with hurtful past, so that we can sympathize with them and excuse their behavior. Rape is usually depicted as an act done out of one sided love. And so on.
This manga is the same---tengoku raped aoki, but aoki felt better after it. And tengoku did have a hurtful past (in the raws), so we should sympathize with him. None of tengoku's action towards aoki gets proper consequences/repercussions. What happens in the end is that aoki gets cured of this trauma and falls in love with tengoku. Which is a load of bullshit imho.
And this is exactly where I said u should ask... I do agree with what u want the manga to be but not even once that snake had said that he wants to help, and no, aoki is still saying that these things should happen with the person u like only, not to let go of the fact the u should not generalize this manga story or any manga, each work stands for it self... and therefore should be finished before throwing judgment!
Yes well, i read the raw before i made that comment. So yes, i've finished it. It's not an early judgement, i stand by my point. If you disagree then so be it.
u don;t need the raws, look, aoki never felt comforted by sex, he was told again and again to be him self, not like what his mother asked him to be, this is why he likes the nurse, and on the rape topic, he keeps saying that something like this only happens with those u love, meaning he still does not see him as a partner and if as u said , aoki would find comfort in sex , then upon his standards, it's not this sex...
Ooh love both of the stories! They're all sweet and light-hearted, which is rare for nishida higashi. As usual i wish it was longer ㅠㅠ
Ohhh godddddd this manhwa is too precious. Beautiful art and beautiful story! LGBT parents! Supportive friends! No unnecessary drama/love triangle! Just fluff on top of fluff on top of fluff, but with a substantial message too. I legit teared up when CY asked SW "what will it be like, a guy dating a guy?" and SW said "just the same as a guy dating a girl." Also when HS felt so glad and relieved that he had SW to talk to because he only had been a listener before, or when HS felt at home with SW because SW understood what it was like to be in love with a same sex person.
There are a lot of things i can relate to--some of the things in the manhwa has happened in my life too. I'm so in love with this manhwa, so sad to see it ending. I want to keep Heesu and his friends inside my pocket forever.
Also, this would make an amazing coming of age drama. I hope someday south korea can be more open minded, so that beautiful manhwa like this can get adapted into screen.
Author: offering high quality story with complex characters and non-cliche plot
Yaoi readers: BUT WHO'S THE SEME AND THE UKE????
Like seriously. Stop.
someone said it thank you
i really like that the author made them the same height, i think it's really nice
Probably reversed couple, "you do me and I will do you"
I really do hope this is going to be a seke relationship.
we wont know and it doesn't matter because it's shounen ai
personally i prefer it this way
Maybe their holding hands is a sign who's uke and who's seme
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/a_shoulder_to_cry_on/uu/iur_chapter-20/pg-24/
How is that a sign?