Idk how to feel bout this manga... I want to like it b/c the author also made Cry Like Cry but... that nurse is gross.
I actually enjoy school settings in yaoi, but there has to be a degree of absurdity to distinguish it from reality. This manga is lacking that so far (and actually attempting to be serious), so I can't look past the asshole predatory nurse
But this story reminds me of a shitty fanfiction written by a 12-year old. The art was beautiful and the smut was hot, but let's be real, the plot and pacing sucked. I think this story should've either had a deep plot or have been pure smut.
I love how this story depicts their relationship. This manga just ilillustrates the importance of being open and honest with yourself, and your partner. While the truth can be hard (as in the case of Sanada when he realized he was gay) it is necessary. And in the present, if the two characters were honest sooner, they would've saved themselves a lot of heartache. Any relationship that is founded on mistrust and assumptions is doomed to fail
No, it's not. How do you think abusers who get their victims to trust them are in 'failed' relationships if that were the case?
I don't think you worded your question well. The relationship between an abuser and their victim is NOT founded on mutual trust. The abuser doesn't trust the victim and any trust the victim has for the abuser was developed out of fear and a need to survive. I do consider such an unhealthy relationship to be a failed relationship.
I completely agree. Honesty can not save every relationship, but without it, you're increasing the chances of failure
Ok, I'm a little confused. The uke said he never went "all the way" with a guy, but then he said he was gang-raped.
I'm a little confused by this flow. Did he say he never had penetrative sex with a guy because he doesn't count the gang rape? Or did he not go "all the way" with the perpetrators. Either way, it seems weird to me that the author would casually drop a bomb like that when the uke didn't seem all that traumatized during or before having sex.
Yes, I think the author missed a bit in that part. he was brutally raped by a gang, usually whoever goes through it feels terror of sex, in which case he confessed and the same night they had sex ... A bit strange
He mean that he didnt have a normal Relationship with the man he had sex with before
Either a. The author's writing plot as she goes and didn't think of making his past so traumatic until now or
b. He doesn't count gangrape as going all the way with a guy because consent wasn't involved.
I think a but yeah I agree with this theory
I'd go with a (no offence to the author, but the pacing and plot have been all over the place)
Not gonna lie, this story made my heart hurt and my eyes leak. The whole confession/regection thing gets me every time, but at least my precious child found happiness in the end!
So I know that was an emotional chapter, but as a Czech, I lost my shit during Diesel's name reveal. Not gonna lie, that literally snapped me out of my depression (╬￣皿￣)凸
wait, why did his name upset you
Summer in czech is letní not leto
Google translate said otherwise to me XD
Your comment makes me laugh . I don’t know why the mental image of you being all emotional the whole chapter and then getting PISSED at the last pages is so funny
how do you pronounce Letní? as it sounds?
Letni is something connecting to the summer like summer clothes or summer time. Leto is the season ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Okej, I´m Czech and it means I am able to say that Summer is Léto. You can read it like you are used to in English :)
The é is longer, than normally :)
My Czech friend was dead because we are not used to see our langauhge here, even in manwha, maga or manhua :)
Léto, firstly, and you can pronounce it like google translator in Czech does :)
Léto is like in a word [lemon] but without mon and the é makes the e be pronounced longer.
To is like in word [shop], but without h and with t :)
Sorry, google translated noun as letni as the most popular form, synonyms are there also as leto, letniho etc
And mangago doesn't allow edition (￣∇￣")
In this case, Léto is the right "form" of the noun. "Letní" is actually an adjective that refers to summer-y things (ex. Letní šaty = summer dress).
usually google translator is right Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
Google translate really sucks for Czech. It doesn't have a good vocabulary, and it doesn't really understand Czech grammar, so it doesn't give accurate results ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Google translator failed...
Indeed.
Ok, so I didn't have a huge problem with the uke, but I have seen a lot of controversy, so here's my take on it.
First of all, the uke was not sexually liberated. He clearly felt dirty and unworthy because of how he slept around. It's not slutty shaming to point out that he wasn't happy with how easy he was.
Second of all, I wish the author tool this plot a step further. The concept of losing innocence and change was really interesting, but was depicted super unrealistically. Rather than being the backdrop of a shallow romance, I wish the mangaka took time to explore the ramifications on promiscuity.
Also, I don't have an issue with sleeping around per say, but if it is causing feelings of self-hate (and the person keeps doing it), then it may be a sign of self-destructive behaviour.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk
it's free sex estate ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Ok, so I just bought and translated the raw for ch. 39 (using Google, I know literally 0 korean). BUT, from what I understand...
Basically the chapter is from Jinsoon's POV during the time leading up to the big reveal of his secret and then him burning the house down. The whole time he feels super guilty and conflicted about lying to Saegye, but he feels like he has to achieve his goal of getting revenge or whatever on his father. His own self-image issues also come into play, because he sees himself as a monster, so Saegye is probably better off without him. He also wishes to himself that Saegye won't believe in him/fall in love. I also think that he seriously liked Saegye, because he reminds himself that he can't fall in love.Then after he betrays him, he tries to tell himself that its too late to fix anything.
Honestly, it's quite sad, because Jinsson sees himself as irredeemable and genuinely hates himself. And the one time someone genuinely loved him, he had to go and fuck it up (which he recognizes and regrets). What's even worse, because he is a Lie, he didnt really have an opportunity to have an open and honest conversation. I hope that he learns to love himself and redeems himself to Saegye
Thanks for the summary
thank you, I appreciate it a lot! (●'◡'●)ﾉ
Poor baby Jinsol, I hope there are happier days ahead for him
Haha, luckily not this time. Google translate can do a decent time of translating picture, so I screenshoted the whole chapter and uploaded each page into translate lol. The thing is, the translation is still literal trash, so I only understood like 50% of what was going on. :)
honestly speacking, he'll most likely return the Dare power and since he only needed it for 1 thing, saegye will stick by his side
jesus christ
I knew the truth will be painful but oh boy, this is so depressing
i was basing it on the spoilers given and if Jinsoon just needed the Dare for just that reason alone. and if Jinsoon was really remorseful and it's not just a lie, then he hasn't put Saegye through hell by making him keep the False. that's just what i meant
In the first chapter, Saegye describes his memories of Jinsol saying ''Things I can't forget because I've come to hate them''. I really wonder if he forgets Jinsol easily - after all, I believe that despite being a coward, he'd do his best to help Jinsol get out of his father's hands. On the other hand, the author of the webtoon said it's a romance story, so I guess in the end they will have a happy (?) ending
we'll see
There are two main reasons for I think this story is so sad.
First of all, Saegye would've definitely helped Jinsol had he known about his situation. However, there is no way that Jinsol could've told him the truth, because he is a lie.
Second of all, no matter how much Jinsol might regret his actions, I dont see a way for the two of them to get back together (though i hope they do). After all, that was a big oopsie, and Jinsol has to try really fucking hard if he wants to redeem himself. I feel like his justification for tricking Saegye was valid, but that doesn't make it right.
However, I still hope they manage to find their happy ever after :)
I really like your take on it. I agree, it's probably one of the saddest webtoons out there, it's so sad it makes it beautiful.
I see your point that Jinsol could not tell Saegye about his circumstances, however, Saegye already deducted a lot with his help - e.g. seeing Jinsol's bruises, his mother abandoning him. Also, it seems like my theory that Jinsol can tell truth by writing might hold true - so in that case, Jinsol could manage to communicate with Sae somehow. Eventually, they could switch the D with F, Jinsol could explain everything to him, and switch back. However, it looks like like Jinsol actually wants to be solely responsible for his actions - in a way that seems like he almost doesn't want to burden Saegye by making him worry about his circumstances.
I also don't really see how they will end up together. To be honest, there was so much foreshadowing that Saegye will end up dead - e.g. when he as a ''Raincoat'' had a meeting with the woman from Dare's group - that I wouldn't be surprised if the story will had a dramatic ending. All in all, if anyone decides to report any of the two, there is no way out. The author said there will be around 30 episodes for season 2, so we have around 21 episodes left ;-;
I wonder if the webtoon will go that far, as there are around 21 chapters left. I would like to see some resistance activists - Han would probably come back to the main plot then, too - but I think the romance itself might be the main plot of this story
The author said in the author note (at the end of season 1) that she also plans around 30 episodes for season 2
unlikely, judging by Lezhin's current strike. For example, BJ alex finished at Season 2 despite its popularity, and most webtoons reach around 70 chapters there anyway. But we'll see if there will be any changes to that
well, about a year ago or so there were some strikes in relation to how Lezhin treats their artists. Supposedly, they had a ''black'' list of artits, whose work would never get featured and promoted, which meant that they would make less money comparison in comparison to artists who got promoted a lot - e.g. the artist of BJ Alex.
I sincerely hope the situation has improved by then. Even more the reason to support the artists there, as they get more money if their webtoons sell well. That's why I always buy Truth or Dare at Lezhin, even if it's updated here. I think the artist deserves a lot more recognition than he or she gets
shit, its a wicked problem. Why yaoi genre always tends to lean on the heavy side? My heart was shattered into pieces. and now left with dust.
well technically, Truth or Dare is shounen-ai, so no smut like in yaoi:D
there are also plenty of fluffy webtoons in this genre, such as Heesu in class 2 <3
Lezhin doesn't select the top 10, that's based on sales. And since we're all here reading it on MangaGo (minus those of us who are also buying it when it comes out), we're not really helping their work get recognized, so... ┑(￣Д ￣)┍