How easily so many people blew off Miyuki and joined in with supporting Okumura feels to me like sheep behavior, like you'll buy into anything as long as it's packaged with a bow on top, and just dump the more superior character who has been developing since the start because that's what you're told to do. Okumura is being sold to you. Why are you buying into him so easily?
Yeah Ikr. I love those 1st year guys but not as much as senpais and captain Miyuki, those who have been with us for more than 400 chapters. Okumura is supposed to be the next generation of Seidou, I can already imagine him become the main catcher when Miyuki is gone. Terajima did put Okumura in the picture for a reason. But still, Miyuki is just. Such an important character. Hell. He has been shouldering the team this whole time, trying to help his teammates as much as he can(especially Furuya and Sawamura), the scene when Kuramochi told him "You dont want people to see you making an effort that much" makes me cry :((( I think captain has many things to worry about as well, he is just a baseball addict like everyone else after all but he doesnt want to show it. Yet some people easily forget all that.
Sorry maybe off topic but I just feel depressed thinking about Miyuki leaving the team, and about not getting to see him and Sawamura in a battery anymore. Okumura cant replace him, that's for sure.
I actually feel a loss, anticipating Miyuki being left out of this manga. I wish... surely there's some way to keep him written into the story. I actually shed some tears over it in that scene where he's alone at night with the slight breeze in his hair, and he's realizing that it's really true that he only has 3 more months to play baseball with Sawamura and Furuya. The sad music got to me,too. （￣へ￣）waaaaa
Aghhh don't mention that Miyuki has only 3 months to play. I wanna cry. The most affected of them all is Sawamura 'coz he really wants to be with Miyuki, to play with him more. He won't admit it but he really respect Miyuki as a catcher and of course, a person who really loves baseball. T.T
For saying something nice and comforting like this, you're the best
i don't think it's wrong for people to like Okumura, he is the next gen after all and also has his own personality that contrasts Miyuki. I get what your saying, heck, even i fucking love Miyuki, but again i wouldn't call liking Okumura "sheep behavior".
I like this art a lot. I like it when artists have an off-beat style. This art is smooth and the lines are interestingly gentle. I like the character's little round heads, too. haha. They are a little tiny bit like phantomhives. I love the idea of the story of threesomeness that is kind and loving. It's sexy.
I don't care for it when the top tells the bottom that he's like a girl or has a girl-pussy. for me that's a turn off. otherwise I will look forward to reading more of this
I just finished watching season 2.
spoilers below::::::
omg! wtf? someone comfort me! LOL
I"m glad they live on, but that's the only joy of the entire arc. In the end, every bit of their world is lost, and they are dead and gone. WTF kind of end is that?
I don't mind Ciel being a demon, but only if he and Sebastian are happy together and maybe retain a few friends.... and let them keep that mansion for crying out loud! Why are they drearily leaving for nowhere! I'd really prefer that Ciel go on as the living, clever, precocious, BEAUTIFUL character that he is.
Sorry, this is pretty negative, but this was a tremendously drab, colorless world we were left in as an ending
spoiler below so.... for2nd season anime
someone said Sebastian and Ciel love each other in the end, but that the director decided not to show it. that director can suck me. lol. Anyway, didn't that lady say that Ciel's feelings for Sebastian would be lost forever? someone please tell me I heard that wrong.
I'm mad at the way the end is handled. it's like they wrote this one by committee, like "we need this to happen here so we'll put another tragedy there, and they end up with total shit destruction. sorry. I'm in mourning over my lovely Kuroshitsuji. haha.
please excuse this negativity. I'm really needing to say something.
Season 2 is literally non canon.
I would love to know where I could read to know more of the real kuroshitsuji. Is it in the dj's?
I wish I could overwrite that season 2 in my head. Anyway, how ya doin, cd?
No no no.. ma’m.. you must be new here. *cracks knusckles* First of all ciel and sebastian’s relationship is not romantic whatsoever. Season 1 after episode 6 is not canon and that goes for season 2 as well! Watch book of circus, murder and atlantic. Those are the canon seasons!!! These other seasons are more like extra material with fanservice. There are lots of ‘moments’ between them but I’d say they hate eaxh other lmao. Doesnt take away how interesting their relationship is though. Their loyalty and dynamic is incredible. But ciel is a boy who (spoiler alert) got violently sexually abused when he was captured so he trusts no adult, if anyone at all.
Lol season 2 doesn't follow the manga. It's nonsense. You can forget what you just watched.
Like everyone else said, season 2 is not canon. Book of circus and Book of atlantic are, as they follow the manga. Basically in real kuroshitsuji canon, alois, claude, hannah etc. don't actually exist. Ciel never became a demon. etc.
Think of season 2 as a parallel universe, it basically never happened.
You dragged me right out of hell. thank you for telling me! I hated season 2, and it feels a little bit like a freaking miracle that I get to tell myself that it doesn't count. yay!
Yes, I am new to Kuroshitsuji anime, though I've been meaning to watch it for years, and I do keep up with the manga..... so take it easy on this little lost lamb, knuckle cracking demon.
What I feel kinda dumb about was seeing "Book of Circus" etc. and thought they were novels. LOL
As for Sebastian and Ciel's feelings, yeah, I can see what you mean. There's very few of those 'moments' in the manga that I've noticed. Ciel wouldn't be wise to let his guard down in front of Sebastian. Just one thing, I definitely saw Sebastian kiss Ciel very tenderly in the closing credits of Book of Circus very very tenderly.
Well, at least we've moved on from Mayrin's boobs.
Thank you! you know, while I was watching it I wondered why the anime wasn't following the manga. I hated those crappy-ass extra characters, especially that evil Hannah who acted like a big fat goody goody but was really an evil old slut, and wasn't her hat a bit much? Anyway, those four people deserve each other, and who the fuck cares about them to even give them any screen time? LOL
I'm going to say something really bad and sacreligious. LOL. About the only good thing of season 2 was that Ceil managed to scrape Lady Elizabeth off his boots. LMAO, loudmouth temperamental, demanding, obnoxious spoiled brat in pigtails... the obnoxious screechy voice didn't help either.
It's a little bit too-bad that all the women characters sucked.
thank you for relieving my suffering, and please forgive my horrendous rude negative attitude!
it was like they hired a committee to write season 2. I'm so glad a few people were kind enough to inform me. thank you so much for your reply
I was hoping for a cute spanking.
Lol me to ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
I just finished watching the anime second season. Have you seen it?
Yeah (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
If you haven't read the last chapters and don't want it spoiled, DON"T read the anonymous post directly below this one
No no no no no! Ichidai vs Sensen?? We are not into another team's game after six months of Ichidai vs Yakubi??? bitch please...
is everyone here two years old? You've never seen a stupid animated gif before? I come to read some comments and the whole section is full of stupid idiots getting scared of a gif
Lol.. But it was really unexpected and that too was of them blinking! I doubted my eyes for a moment..
LOL, okay. ya know, I saw this gif a long time ago, and I guess it gave me pause for a few seconds at the time, so I'm no better than the rest. LOL
Dats mean I was just surprised （￣へ￣）
oh I just love this. Why so many downvotes just because someone loves this?
Imagine hating a manga because of a situation that never happened aka FICTION
Welcome to 2020 guys
it's called an opinion, luv. Also, it's perfectly fine to take art seriously. Also, it doesn't matter that it never happened. It evokes. It can influence, incite, tempt. I don't like it. that's my opinion. Do you have an opinion or are you just about criticizing those who do? I'm listening.
I don't have the time or energy nor do I care enough to deal with an overly sensitive/dramatic person right now since it's near midnight so I'll get back to you tomorrow unless I've already forgotten about this meaningless & trivial conversation by then. Ah most likely the latter
LOL take your time, sweet cheeks. I'll be waiting
And who is forcing you to deal with it? Yet here you are commenting every time. It's not mandatory to comment you know. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't even comment here in the first place.
Oh! you tell 'em, Celdria!
On the other hand, if I gave a sht about it, I would've expressed my opinion like they had asked. However I did not because I know OP is the type of person to drag it on which would be pointless. Also pretty hypocritical of you to say commenting is not mandatory when you just decided to stick your nose in. Thank you for contributing to a meaningless conversation just to make it even more meaningless.
Thanks for waiting baby, love you (≧∀≦)
Oh shoot I was too wrapped in my love for you that I forgot to mention I still don't have a typed up response for you. Maybe next time honey!
are animals hurt many times here? I don't like reading animals getting hurt too
I'll spoil it by I'll space down if you don't want to read it
dead puppy beaten to death, and they show it twice. not necessary I don't think. just my opinion
I'm so flattered about Honeystyle knowing who I am cuz of that "I know the OP." thing that my eyes are blinded by fevered love
.(っノ▰__▰)っノ°°
Wait. Commenting isn't mandatory?
This just shows my comment wasn't wrong. I honestly don't know what the point of your comment was other than to prove my point, and for that I must thank you.
so welcome. it seems we're in perfect sync. lmao
Right? Well if you admitted it yourself then there's nothing else for me to say, so good day!
I don't want to offend anyone... but I just have to get it off my chest how much I hate Grell. I know some like him so, sorry, but I wanted to puke when he was 3rd or 4th in the polls. omg. I hate him so bad. I hate those teeth, that ugly smile, and the over-the-top drag queen act. May I please kill him? I need to real bad.
I get it, mostly.
I tolerate Grell in the manga. I hate what the anime did to him/her/it/whatever (I'm gonna use they/them/their).
They were brought out in every filler arc because they were the fan-favorite. And they were treated like a total fool. Wielding safety scissors in half the battles, dressing up like an altar boy, and constantly getting horny for every male character, even the DOGMAN. They're supposed to be a third party antagonist to the main characters, yet they were treated like comic relief because of their personality in comparison to the rest of the cast.
Grell is a loud, bombastic character with strange attributes (they like cutting up people for the red aesthetic) and a unique design, meaning they don't exactly blend in, but at least in the manga, they were an actual threat that only appeared when it made sense for them to appear (like at every soul collection). They landed hits on their targets or successfully distracted them. They were smart enough to understand the gravity of certain situations (like Undy's death scythe). They were diligent enough to put their duty above getting some Sebastian ass, even if they kept making comments to him. They're strange, but they get shit done.
But that's just me. Some people just straight up hate their personality. I can't argue if you do, but I can tolerate them.
Grell is absolutely a man. He's clearly an off-the-rack drag queen imo
No offense but regarding Grell as a uniquely designed character who makes sense, there's that one little detail about him that absolutely everyone seems to be in-denial about. He was torturing and killing real living people, women, alongside Lady Red aka Jack the Ripper, who he later killed in cold blood just because he was suddenly bored with her attitude. How does one keep from hating his ugly-ass snaggle tooth self after that? Yet people are just as happy to selectively forget that. I didn't forget it.
I thought so too about trotting him out in the animes to make some fans happy rather than make a decent story. I hated him in the manga, too, because he bored the living shit out of me. Also, the loud noise made by chain saws and lawn mowers tears up my nerves any time I hear them in RL. Putting up with them in an anime and having so many cool scenes with Sebastian and Ciel interrupted by loud by anachronistic machinery, really grated.
So yeah, I'm sorry to everyone who likes him and mean no offense to them personally, but I hate him, and I don't have anything but bad words to say about him. It would have been funny if they'd replaced him with a character that fit in with the Victorian timeline who was quietly after Sebastian's cute butt and who was the opposite of Grell.
you got a new icon, and it's the coolest. did you change your name, too, cuz saka---- is a cool name. You're emitting coolness.
I've had the same name and profile pic since I made my account. My name is just the name of a song I like, and the picture is representative of that.
And thank you! I think you're pretty cool too. I like your honesty.
I like grell a little bit more now that I watched Book of the Atlantic. I didn't watch it before because the nice person who recommended it called it Book of Atlantis. I thought wtf. LOL Grell was okay in atlantic book of. Thank you for saying a nice thing.
No problem! Grell in Book of Atlantic is honestly the truest version of Grell there is.
Funny thing is, Grell is not part of like 80% of the manga. Like I said, he's shoehorned into all of the S1 anime's filler arcs, and he was even shoehorned into Book of Circus (that part with Beast's record). He's actually not seen at all from Jack the Ripper to the Campania (Book of Atlantic).
This also kinda ties back to this whole "comic relief" thing. In order to make it feasible for him to team up with Ciel and Sebastian, the had to A: Give them a common enemy, and B: Make Grell not as murder-y as he was when he was Jack. And that would entail making Ciel not hate him for killing Madam Red and getting away with it, which I thought was dumb.
So yeah, in reality, Ciel and Sebastian have never teamed up with Grell. They haven't teamed up with any of the Grim Reapers, because they're literally Sebastian's enemy. The part in Book of Circus with Will was a hateful agreement to stay out of each other's way, and Undertaker was a quid pro quo agreement with Ciel. Grell has actually tried to kill them every time he's seen them, which makes sense. Even with Undertaker's capture, it was a matter of "we'll have to get him before they do" rather than an actual team up. That's why it never made sense for him to be comic relief to me. But he is a good fighter, and he does his job decently in Book of Atlantic, so he gets a pass from me in those regards.
Yes, I agree that Grell being comic relief is misplaced, and I'm offended when an author is swayed by the fan's opinions, especially when it's not that hard to see when it happens. The fans have terrible taste when they form a market research conglomerate, which is obvious to the point of absurdity. It's weak on an author's part to respond to it instead of believing in their art the same way they did when they began the story. I hate it when art is transformed into product.
On a completely different and contradictory note on my part, I think those reapers should back off when Sebastian is defending a child, the undertaker, too, bastards! They act like demons, really, so how does their murderous intent to wipe out Sebastian add up, especially since Ceil can't survive without him. It all fks with my concept of a grim reaper's job, which is to ferry the soul to its next location. Know your role, Grell and co!
One thing that I can't believe I didn't notice was that Sebastian likes to fight. For him, it's not horrible from start to finish, which is how I'd feel about constantly having defend my life and Ciel's against death by chain saw. I need to stop projecting my aversion to violence onto Sebastian's hobby. LOL Maybe I'm way off about him liking a good, bloody massacre now and then, but him being a demon's gotta figure into it. LOL
I flaked on your name and icon. LOL probably old age
Grell is suppose to be the tranny/drag queen comedic relief and an awful and redundantly used stereotype in anime. I dislike him/her for that reason but in any other case they're pretty funny I guess. I don't know. I don't hate them either..Just my opinion. Also, its fine not to like a character why misgender them? Kinda rude no? You're reading yaoi but you wanna be transphobic or ?
him/her? them? He's identified in every pronoun in both anime and manga as a man. wth?
and them is more than one person. I absolutely refuse to accept calling a single person a they or them. Sexuality is hard enough to sort out without muddying it up by making everyone a they them.
How is anyone misgendering anyone? He's a man. It's acknowledged all over the manga and anime! Transgender - that's every single person who isn't at the far-end hardcore heterosexual poles of the spectrum. Why for pete's sake do you call yourself crack-dad? Am I abusively misgendering you if I call you she? Maybe you're the one for not saying Msgendering. LOL
Ummmmm no ones saying Grell is a they/them sis Yana is demonstrating Grell as a transgender woman, not a man. Biologically a man, if you will. It's pretty clear from the way Grell behaves and adores surrounding herself with feminine items and men. But if you're not into individuals that are transgender then just say you're transphobic and go ? Like i'm confused LOL
Crackdad is just a username what its not that deep
If he refers to his own self as he, then I think the right pronoun for him is he. If everyone in the story refers to him as he, then I think the right pronoun is he. How do we know he's not a transexual? I think it's nice of you to make the effort to modify your language to suit some, but transgender is an assumption. Until he refers to himself as trangender, I think we should not guess at it. That's my opinion. I'm not trying to write anything in stone or offend anyone.
don't call me transphobic when you use terms like tranny, which is not all that polite a name to call anyone. As well, tranny, drag queen, transvestite - these are all separate terms for separate groups.
Gre often refers to themselves as a woman though !?! Honestly you missed my entire point LMFAOOO I’m just saying they’re a poor stereotype done redundantly by anime. If anything I was half agreeing with you. Idk why you’re so pressed for
This is coming from somebody who watched bb as her first anime when she was in eighth grade. Clearly you’re new to the fandom and it shows Idk why you’re often starting shit under other’s comments. Like let people enjoy things maybe??
LOL sorry. I'm really not all that serious about this Genderfication of America thing. I just thought that with all the bad bugs out there, this might take people's minds off that and onto being irritated with me. LOL I guess it's okay if I only irritated you.
-I don't know what bb is. What is it?
-I was in eighth grade before there was any such thing as manga.
Anyway, fuck Grell. Let's talk about what a magnificent brat Ciel is. I dig the hell out of Sebastian, but Ciel's my favorite. I'm reading K again and seeing how it does sometimes look like they hate each other. It's hilarious.
I like Lady Elizabeth fine, but I have to admit that I'm a little glad that in the end she's not going to be able to sink her cute little claws into ourCiel. I mean I don't know how one comes back from perpetrating a gigantic sellout on a bigger-than-life character like Ciel. During the trap and frame-up job, it was her pointing her finger at him and calling him "the one who's been lying to us all this time" that put the final nail in his coffin.
Looks to me like she's betting big on the wrong horse.
BB = Black Butler. (I thought that was obvious ?) I respect your opinions on whatever characters you like but I do not care to read them lmfao. As long as you understand to be polite in the fandom then you're free to continue. Have a good day now.
I'll be about as polite to you as you just were to me, which wasn't very. As long as you understand that people can be as polite as they like in the fandom then you're free to continue. If I'm not as polite as you in you high holy opinion think the standards are, what are you going to do about it? Have a good day now.
and also. I talked to you because I liked a couple of things you said or thought they were funny, but if you don't want to talk to me, don't talk to me. It's not necessary to come over with all reprimands and saying you don't want to read my stuff. no need. don't respond to me. I won't respond to you. that's all.
Guess I struck a nerve LOL