https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/queen-of-the-scalpel.77135/page-11
Emperor Minchester (Linden's dad), Marquess El Clorance (Elise's dad) and Marian Childe (Michael's mom) were all friends. Teresa (Elise's Mom) and Rebecca (Linden's Mom) are friends, who passed by the trio. Minchester and El both fell for Teresa. Teresa chose El.
Minchester was sad and Rebecca comforted him. They both fell in love. They got married and he wanted her to be the Empress. The Childe family opposed it. The compromise was that Michael's mom would be the Queen(lower than the empress).
All was good, Minchester and Rebecca had three children, The first imperial prince, The first imperial Princess, Evelyn and the second imperial prince, Linden. Marian also had Michael , but she was still jealous.
The Childe family fabricated a story that Rebecca and Evelyn badmouthed some nobles and pushed for Rebecca to be deposed. So that Marian would be the most powerful in the palace. Minchester knew it was fabricated and told them that he would get them out of confinement. Rebecca and Evelyn couldn't take all the mental damage and both committed suicide by falling off the ledge. Linden saw them commit suicide, and he was traumatized.
After that Linden and Michael's relationship started souring. Marian was confined indefinitely and she went insane. The first imperial prince died in the Angelique war. Linden became the Crown Prince (Linden is probably older that Michael).
For reader like me the characters are just soap opera stupid.
Thankyou so much for explained this for a dumb like me this is really helpful
My impression is it has become very sappy melodramatic and nobody is really blaming the father/previous emperor...
Elise has become literally such pure innocent angelic saint who needs to cry and suffer for the dark haiired ML...
I can say for sure started to question the fantasy romance trope: ML has to be a cold royal prince with tragic past, FL is has to be the ideal innocent virginal figure/doormat, Falling in love with your murderer/executioner again, pro monarchy drama etc...
lol tru
Did the author really referenced Obama and Trump as famous ancient figures? (⊙…⊙ )
Well they did gone down in history for sure for better or worse...
But I didn't want real life US politicians who are involved in war crimes being mentioned in a fantasy story(￣∇￣")
So Georgia as a wife gets ignored and cheated by her husband until she got very deadly sick and then her husbad realized his love for her...
What a load of crapΣ( ￣□￣||)
This is the frustrating conservative romance trope again:
Women has to suffer tremendously for shitty men so they can reform to better men...
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Yeah, this society is terrible
No love here
What makes it stupidly absurd is the fact that the FL/MC gets the opportunity to leave her dumb obnoxious husband for good but instead she chose to stay with him after all because of power of conservative toxic love... ┗( T﹏T )┛
What kind of story logic is that?!
Ikr, and even though she's been permitted to have sex with other people. She can't even do that because her crazy husband blind folds her and has sex with her. What on earth!? All the women in this thing are just objects and they aren't able to do anything. I don't know why I'm still reading this but I'm so glad I don't live like her
Any clues or theories why female authors wants to see their own MC/FL undergoing so much misery???
In "The Viridescent Crown" the transmigrated MC gets often enough drugged, kidnapped, almost raped, gang-raped and killed. And of course, the dark haired ML tsundere (also her stepbrother) is the one with the only superior power who always saves her. Despite getting the power of summoning spirits, she is still a damsell...
In the original novel that was later revised she suffers all the sexual violences and rape.
Funny thing is, everything that happens to her is because of the ML!
Really? Is that the author's other work? Maybe they have a thing for extremely weak women who are subjected to different kinds of abuse and powerful men. It seems like it, and from what you just said, this story is not going to get any better, I'd better drop it now before I get too attached.
It is another author who also wrote I am a Child of this house. Well in the original novel draft Ran the FL From TVC suffers all the sexual violence. After huge backlash by the readers she changed it by making ML her stepbrother saving her in the last minute.
Oh wow
You should see the rape controversy of OUTLANDER.
Almost all if not every main characters gets assaulted or (gang)raped in the novel and STARZ series.
Oh my goodness, is it a book or webtoon? That sounds terrible (I said the terrible in a French accent by the way)
Actually don't know why I mentioned the way I said it
Timetravel Scottish Adventure Romance Book Series and also adapted into a TV SHOW
It was turned into a Tv show!? Fr?
Many people seemed to love it though, it was even given an award. And many of the reviews for the book were 5 star. Did they read the same book you told me of or did I search the wrong name?
You won't believe the true motive of the "sister" Ariel...
https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/charming-the-beast-%EB%AF%B8%EB%82%A8%EA%B3%BC-%EC%95%BC%EC%88%98.119721/page-3
After reading the spoilers I have to say the story has become a little too absurd and stupid for me.
Nothing beats the outrageous story of MELISSA from "BEWARE OF THE VILLAINESS"....
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In chapter 73 Seme/ML gets slapped by his evil conservative stupid father again and doesn't really retaliate (╬￣皿￣)凸 despite being powerful himself....
By the way, why is the mother still supportive of her patriarchal obnoxious "ex-husband".
Talking about being brainwashed and following a toxic ideology...
That's unfortunate a thing or rule in the Asian Drama World: Now matter what you can't slapped/hit back at your shitty parent. I ve been observing this trope in many stories made in Asia for a while and I always hated this logic.
And there are the devoted (ex)wives/mother of the MCs who never blame their scum husbands... One of the reasons why the evil father or mother gets away with almost anything is because their spouses are so dumb, ignorant, passive and narrow-minded.
In "Marriage Not Dating" and "Marriage Contract" the wives leave their cheating shitbag of husbands for good!
https://www.qimiaomh.com/manhua/3521/56.html
Kinda weird to use the word trope for a real life issue. Or is the world fiction to you?
It’s not exactly a trope but the reality of many Asian families. I wished they didn’t follow that reality especially in stories but I guess I enjoy that they make it realistic.
Nice job whittling down generations’ of culture into a “trope”
I am Taiwanese and I know what I am talking about.
It is true that this Asian mentality has become a disempowering trope in Asian storytellings.
I don't care what's your problem is since you are eager to talk me down.
Because a trope is: a word or expression used in a figurative sense. How is abuse figurative? It doesn’t matter where you’re from. Everyone throws this word around and doesn’t even understand what the hell they’re saying
The evil promiscuous twin and the other twin who is too innocent passive & harmless but also too stupid because she lies to be with the ML.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVWY6VyYvOQ
The Doppelgänger Motif in "A Stolen Life"
I prefer if the MC has more guts, self-respect and wouldn't for a ML who was already tasted by his evil twin brother.
Damn another doormat uke huh? Thanks for the warning
doormat uke lol
I just don't understand why the bl authors make their Uke so weak, helpless or incompetent to the point that they are treated by literally everyone as used doormat until the so perfect ML who is actually a shitty petulant manchild in most cases saves the day...
The main problem is that they are fine with being treated like shit. Like dude just leave (〜￣△￣)〜
That is so much far worse than DEATH IS THE ONLY ENDING FOR THE VILLAINESS...
Recommendation: FL becomes a nurderous insane badass after being killed too much time.
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-resetting-lady/
Looks interesting! Thank you
A female protagonist always has to suffer the most in a story until she is saved by ML(s).
It is a nightmare/hell that you have to somehow survive as a baby in an absurd impossible enviroment. Why even putting her in the first place there?
Now compared to a Male protagonist who may very likely struggling in a shonen drama situation but he is given in a way better "options" and "equipments"....
He may gets help from other nice strong people but in the end he gets somehow his latent power awaken and becomes more untouchable/independent.
A FL on the other hand has to endure years of harassment longer and spend years on charming, praising, healing and relying on other people/men to survive.
This is so nervewrecking and toxic!
I noticed the different treatment of a male and female protagonist in many fantasy novel settings. And I must say the male hero is often better equipped with power which he will fully utilize it. But the heroine is contantly restricted and undermined by anything...
I don't care about the argument that this is how it is or that is realistic because it is rooted in IRL... BULLCRAP!!!"
Do I have to remind you that it is a fantasy genre where anything is possible::::
I'm guessing what you're trying to say that men have more "power-fantasy" stories, and women have less... (that's what the trope type is called btw).
There are a lot, but they usually aren't in like...the romance genre if you catch my drift? I find more female power-fantasy in things that aren't shoujo. As for why that is, I don't know.
I agree that most of the cases are like that, but in this case the ML suffered and suffers quite a lot. 6 years of that insane house, along with a lot of distain. If he did not have more power more than the FL, he would have been quite dead.
But the FL reborn as an infant toddler in a house of a bloody cruel tyrant/duke where she immediately becomes a target/punching bag... She is already at the receiving end.
That's the word POWER FANTASY!
The Fantasy Romance Genre is often quite disempowering for female MCs. No matter how smart and strong you are you always gets weaken, patronized or saved by the superior questionable ML.
Female Power Fantasy:
CLAYMORE; Light & Shadow, Beware Of The Villainess, The Pet Of The Villainess, The Duchess with an Empty Soul, The Lady and the Beast, Kingdom of the Queen and Majo To Kiketsu No Kishi.
I thought beware of the villainess has strong harsh FL and weak ML? The duchess with an empty soul also has strong power, ML is strong too but isn't both FL and ML in that story just have different types of power? I don't read the rest so i don't know
Welp ignore my reply, i think i misunderstood your comment lol, i totally missed that 'female power fantasy'
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Yeah a lot of my fav female power fantasy series don't involve romance...
People usually misunderstand because it's not about women who have magical abilities, it's about showing off women being badasses and wielding said power in an active leadership position.
Like 12 Kingdoms, Birdy the Mighty, Shinsekai Yori, Chevalier D'eon, Blood+. None of these are romance by genre.
Just kill the damn father!