MangaAnger9 November 23, 2020 3:46 pm

I STILL don't understand quite the logic and conversation between the MC/Uke and ML/Seme...

I can't comprehend why the ML has become so suddenly so rapey AND obsessive... Was it really THAT necessary? This Yaoi trope could have been easily avoided.

MangaAnger9 November 23, 2020 10:03 am

Why does the female MC in Chinese Novels/Manhuas always/often gets abducted or kidnapped??? And it always happens because of the jealousy and stupidity of evil bitches...

Have you ever seen a male MC going through the same ordeal as a female character?

    Emmaxoxo November 23, 2020 9:20 pm

    You right and I agree male MC story's are only about him getting killed and coming to another world or woman cheating on him and him getting revenge but I kinda like these manga I know there are a lot of same stuff like these one but somehow I like these one the best(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

    MangaAnger9 November 23, 2020 9:54 pm
    You right and I agree male MC story's are only about him getting killed and coming to another world or woman cheating on him and him getting revenge but I kinda like these manga I know there are a lot of same s... Emmaxoxo

    Yes, at least she is very wicked and calculating.

    Juno November 23, 2020 10:53 pm

    Yes, I have seen male characters going through hell like this ... in BL stories.

    MangaAnger9 November 23, 2020 11:02 pm
    Yes, I have seen male characters going through hell like this ... in BL stories. Juno

    I am also aware of the MC/Uke in Yaoi BL stories...
    I mean they are literally FLs in thin fragile male bodies.

    Juno November 23, 2020 11:30 pm
    I am also aware of the MC/Uke in Yaoi BL stories...I mean they are literally FLs in thin fragile male bodies. MangaAnger9

    Some of them have even less guts and gumption than this girl does. Actually, I'm pretty impressed with how much resourcefulness and ingenuity this woman shows apart from this generic-male Gu character right now, because we are so obviously not meant to care about him, but somehow that makes it worse. A strong character always looks after those weaker than themselves, especially those who aren't attackers, and Gu is weaker than Ning. Plus, he had the good taste and sensibility to fall in love with her, right? Because she's awesome, and smart men fall in love with awesome babes. So why punish him for that?

    MangaAnger9 November 24, 2020 8:55 am
    Some of them have even less guts and gumption than this girl does. Actually, I'm pretty impressed with how much resourcefulness and ingenuity this woman shows apart from this generic-male Gu character right now... Juno

    I am sorry but who is this Gu character again?
    In period manwahs there are so many one dimensional characters going after the FL...
    You didn't mean Yuan or Chu, right?

    Emmaxoxo November 24, 2020 1:41 pm
    I am sorry but who is this Gu character again?In period manwahs there are so many one dimensional characters going after the FL...You didn't mean Yuan or Chu, right? MangaAnger9

    Its that gut in last chapter that was cheating of mc(because of the drug but still cheating)

    Emmaxoxo November 24, 2020 1:45 pm
    Some of them have even less guts and gumption than this girl does. Actually, I'm pretty impressed with how much resourcefulness and ingenuity this woman shows apart from this generic-male Gu character right now... Juno

    Well its was obvious that she will end up with that other guy so it was needed to remove that guy...lol that poor soul and because Its would be boring to just kill him or make him feel in love with someone else so author decide that I would be fun to destroy him and I'm hundred prosent sure that that guy will du something stupid ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Juno November 24, 2020 8:31 pm
    Well its was obvious that she will end up with that other guy so it was needed to remove that guy...lol that poor soul and because Its would be boring to just kill him or make him feel in love with someone else... Emmaxoxo

    Yep, set up for revenge. Too bad. I was hoping for more grace.

MangaAnger9 November 22, 2020 9:21 am

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjtaPK8VgAA4_WA.png

Is it possible these are actually the next main characters as a throuple?

    ChewingGum November 22, 2020 5:14 pm

    Probably yeah, which I find sad, I don’t like throuples ;-;

MangaAnger9 November 20, 2020 6:27 pm

It is the typical premise where the MC/Fl will keep suffering alot until the ML is reformed because that sad garbage is obsessed with her and keeps testing her patience by bullying her...
What is it with that novel trope "Womens suffering will bring salvation for the flawed Men".

If you read "Trash of the Count’s Family" you see that this MC doesn't need to suffer so much or endure pain to get sympathies or reform other characters for his own survival.

    Lovely Angel 15 November 20, 2020 6:33 pm

    A fellow TCF fan?!? ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

    MangaAnger9 November 20, 2020 6:37 pm
    A fellow TCF fan?!? ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ Lovely Angel 15

    I am also a fan of Melissa from "Beware of the Villainess"

    Lovely Angel 15 November 20, 2020 6:48 pm
    I am also a fan of Melissa from "Beware of the Villainess" MangaAnger9

    OMG! ME TOO! ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

    Ashley November 20, 2020 6:50 pm

    Oh mY gOd YeSssssss

    MangaAnger9 November 20, 2020 6:51 pm
    OMG! ME TOO! ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ Lovely Angel 15

    Nice to meet a fellow soul who admires or prefer characters like Melissa and Cale :)

    gvuni November 20, 2020 7:13 pm

    I fucking haaaaaate that trope and it needs to die.

MangaAnger9 November 20, 2020 5:52 pm

That premise kinda reminds me of [Sachimo] Black or White.

    Haramea November 20, 2020 7:37 pm

    WOW i thought you said sachiko and had ptsd from corpse party.^.
    niceeeee

    zaynsluv November 28, 2020 6:17 am
    WOW i thought you said sachiko and had ptsd from corpse party.^.niceeeee Haramea

    OMG finally someone else who knows that game/anime

    Haramea November 28, 2020 4:32 pm
    OMG finally someone else who knows that game/anime zaynsluv

    And here i thought it was famous XD

    So for anyone that does not actually knows it, the anime is gore, BUT THE GAME IS TERRIFYING, so buy it and don't play alone ;)

MangaAnger9 November 20, 2020 5:26 pm

The MC probably won't stay in a throuple relationship. It is very likely that he will be in a loving relationship with the Seme/ML1 and ML2 will end up with the silent cameraman with cap (RAW chapter 18: Capman knows about the whole secret sex thing + the MLs are also aware of him). Pretty predictable, if you ask me... Only one pair of Seme+Uke/Top+Bottom at the end.
Still hoping a little that this won't be the outcome but...

"From Points of Three and Private Lessons" also started with a threesome but at the end of the story the MCs choose to be in a convential monogamous relationship. The third person/wheel always gets sidelined when the story is starting to focus more on the classic two MCs (Dominant > Naive Subservient) becoming a couple.

You know, I kinda wish to see a functional polyamorous threeway for once in a webtoon manwah.

    mayihaveacrumbofserotonin November 23, 2020 12:32 am

    same.

    Ny.tofu November 23, 2020 4:29 pm

    Well i want the cameramen with jihoon instead :( cuz idk i dont really like the 2 MLs.

    MangaAnger9 November 23, 2020 5:02 pm
    Well i want the cameramen with jihoon instead :( cuz idk i dont really like the 2 MLs. Ny.tofu

    We don't know much about the cameraman except that he is perhaps level headed and minding his own business.

MangaAnger9 November 18, 2020 3:59 pm

The anime is kinda disappointing and rushed. Many things or details were just cut.
Even side characters were reduced to just almost non speaking background.
I was so happy about the anime version until I saw the adaptation...

The manga version of Kuma Bear is still much better.

    Amber December 10, 2020 2:10 am

    I'd have to agree, but also think that not many people read manga or possibly would've found this manga without the anime.

    I think the anime actually helps the manga and light novel in respects to people who enjoy the anime and wish to know more about the entire story.

    MangaAnger9 December 10, 2020 9:44 am
    I'd have to agree, but also think that not many people read manga or possibly would've found this manga without the anime.I think the anime actually helps the manga and light novel in respects to people who enj... Amber

    Every anime adaptation basend on a manga or novel always boosts the curiousity and sales.

    But when I looked at the Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Anime, I have to think "They really cut out a lot of things" and unlike "Overlord" and "Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken" it probably won't get a second season...

    Amber December 26, 2020 2:02 am
    Every anime adaptation basend on a manga or novel always boosts the curiousity and sales.But when I looked at the Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Anime, I have to think "They really cut out a lot of things" and unlike "Ove... MangaAnger9

    Well.... A second season was announced for Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear... =/

    MangaAnger9 December 26, 2020 10:23 am
    Well.... A second season was announced for Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear... =/ Amber

    Really!? Thanks!

    Amber December 26, 2020 4:14 pm
    Really!? Thanks! MangaAnger9

    Yep, if I had to guess it might air sometime in the 2nd half of 2021 since there are no official dates for it airing yet.

MangaAnger9 November 17, 2020 10:56 am

That author has done a very bad job about the treatment of mental illness and ignorant portrayal of colorism/racist stereotypes...
I still think about the pitiful origHost and how much I dislike most of the male characters in this story!
At least Melissa from "Beware of the Villainess" and Alicia/MC from "When The Villainess Loves" still thinks about the misunderstood mistreated host!

    Reichan November 18, 2020 12:18 pm

    Also Penelope from Death is the only ending for the villainess! They tackle abuse more realistically.

    MangaAnger9 November 18, 2020 12:24 pm
    Also Penelope from Death is the only ending for the villainess! They tackle abuse more realistically. Reichan

    I was very pissed that the game system forced for to please and humble herself towards her disgusting male family members. Melissa would have insult and beat the shit out of that shit father and brothers NO MATTER WHAT! Sadly not everyone can be like her :(

    Reichan November 18, 2020 12:28 pm
    I was very pissed that the game system forced for to please and humble herself towards her disgusting male family members. Melissa would have insult and beat the shit out of that shit father and brothers NO MAT... MangaAnger9

    True! The game was heartless too because there was always a deathflag. But no worries, in the LN, Penelope fights back more and is more straightforward to her feelings. And she basically mostly just ignores the OG penelope's family lol

    MangaAnger9 November 18, 2020 12:35 pm
    True! The game was heartless too because there was always a deathflag. But no worries, in the LN, Penelope fights back more and is more straightforward to her feelings. And she basically mostly just ignores the... Reichan

    That's good to hear. I wish her abusive family from the original real world would also suffer.

    Reichan November 18, 2020 12:43 pm
    That's good to hear. I wish her abusive family from the original real world would also suffer. MangaAnger9

    I hope you don't mind spoilers! If you mind, just don't read my comment.
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    According to some spoilers, I think they did! Penelope's body was still alive (but in a coma) and in the hospital and I think at one point later, Penelope visits her OG world and sees her family and they asked for her forgiveness, realizing she was the their OG daughter. I don't know what happened how they realize their abuse but she didn't forgive them and she personally cut the oxygen(?) machine leaving the body dead. Then she left to penelope's world again with the ML.

    MangaAnger9 November 18, 2020 12:52 pm
    I hope you don't mind spoilers! If you mind, just don't read my comment..........According to some spoilers, I think they did! Penelope's body was still alive (but in a coma) and in the hospital and I think at ... Reichan

    Oh, yes. I remember that Spoiler in NovelUpdate.
    Not sure, if that conclusion is really that satisfying...

    Reichan November 18, 2020 2:47 pm
    Oh, yes. I remember that Spoiler in NovelUpdate.Not sure, if that conclusion is really that satisfying... MangaAnger9

    Ahhh that's true. I do hope so!

    re-ishi November 17, 2020 8:52 am

    Thank you for the link (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ anws after reading all that the only thing i can say is that her luck with men is really shit. or maybe the men in her world are just all shit.

    MangaAnger9 November 17, 2020 8:57 am
    Thank you for the link (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ anws after reading all that the only thing i can say is that her luck with men is really shit. or maybe the men in her world are just all shit. re-ishi

    Do you think she should stay single at the end?

MangaAnger9 November 16, 2020 9:10 am

The logic of the two male leads...
The prince suddenly develops feelings for his blackmailer who lost interests in him and the wolfman slave who refuses to be free and is emotionally attached to his slave owner...

I am sorry but these trope is very very toxic problematic!
Romanticied Stockholm Syndrome and Never accept NO as a final answer...
Is there actually a slave character in any mangas/manwahs/webtoons/novels who doesn't fall in love with his former white slave owner or pledge his/her eternal loyalty to that person???

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