lukewarm_oj January 17, 2021 2:39 am

:(((( honestly poor suho and his sister tf that's mom straight up abusive. i hope he and mc's friendship gets revived with the others- tbh suho lashing out at others isn't strange, given his situation and his feelings, especially since it's his dream and future + current life he's losing. the fact he acknowledges it's unfair that he's acting out is really good, i just hope he communicates with juri and MC before they grow even more distance.

also i??? his sister??? like, she has no close friends/personal hobbies or choices she made for herself from what i'm reading like?? damn,, poor kid,,, i hope she's able to find herself :(

also :(( i wonder how spellboy and yummy are doing. haven't seen either in a while. anyways. this webtoon is killing me with how much it's making me think about my future lmaoooo why is it giving me an existential crisis h-

    Ozy47 January 19, 2021 12:39 am

    I accidentally pressed like sorry. Stop making the mom look like she is the villain she is not!! When you look at her perspective what she is doing is actually what a real parent should do. She is thinking what future is better for her son. If you were in her place what would you after hearing that your son would prefer to become a professional gamer after losing a match in a competition??! And what the fhuck you mean ahe is abusive? Just because she limits her children's action does not make her abusive she raised them well gave him all the gadjets to reward him. More like he is spoiled but idek why he is jealous and angry with our mc when he basically have everything anyone would want. He is so self centered.

    lukewarm_oj January 19, 2021 1:10 am
    I accidentally pressed like sorry. Stop making the mom look like she is the villain she is not!! When you look at her perspective what she is doing is actually what a real parent should do. She is thinking what... Ozy47

    o yeah np the buttons are weird on this site

    also just because you have good intentions, that doesn't make your methods right? i get that she cares about his future and does what she thinks is best, but hitting your son and isolating him is not okay?
    and from what we can tell with the mom and how she treats her daughter, her daughter isn't allowed to pick her own friends/hobbies and can't make her own decisions ever since she was a kid, and the mom has been super controlling? like your kids are their own people, and forcing them to live a certain way is super unhealthy and not what a parent should do, even if i understand she thinks this is what's best for them.
    and i think you misunderstand my anger for the mom- i'm not mad at the mom for her concerns, i'm mad with her methods. like yeah i totally agree, becoming a professional gamer is a total risk and i can see her concerns, but that doesn't justify how she executes her parenting. she screams at her children, has been controlling with the daughter since she was a kid, and tries to force them on a path that drastically affects them for the rest of their lives. like? as a parent you guide and love them, but you don't own people, and she treats them that way. she's forcing them on a path she believes to be right, when it's not her life to live out.

    i also can't see her as a good parent if the only reason why she spoils her son is because of what a FORTUNE TELLER said?? like what the fuck lol? she dictated how she treated suho through the words of a fortune teller, rather than with her real relationship with suho. to me this is more than bad parenting, it's just,,, weird. this is a real human being that you're responsible over, and you're not going to put in effort through treating them like a real human being, and instead put all your hopes on words of an outsider to your relationship? like?? what?
    also she beats him a lot and like,,, yo,,,, you really shouldn't hit your child multiple times in the face. idk how you don't think she's not physically abusive at the very least? like i get it. asian parents, they hit you. but hitting your child multiple times in the face and screaming at you is abusive, whether or not she had "good intentions".

    also yeah i think he's spoiled and i think he's treating the MC in a real shitty way, and i think he has to apologise for it. however, what i was trying to say was that i don't think it's unrealistic that he feels jealous, and combined with his mom locking him away and hitting him, i can see why he lashes out on it, even if it's a real shitty thing to do. in the end, he's still very human, even if it makes him wrong and it becomes his responsibility to fix his wrongs. like dont get me wrong. i can feel multiple things for a character, and with suho, i definitely feel sympathy for his family situation, and at the same time, anger for how he's taking it out on the mc. also yeah i agree he's selfish, but i dont think he's self-centered, since he acknowledges that he was definitely in the wrong and that he is being a dickhead; if you're self centered, you wouldn't even be aware of how you're impacting others.

    kimbo January 20, 2021 7:17 pm
    I accidentally pressed like sorry. Stop making the mom look like she is the villain she is not!! When you look at her perspective what she is doing is actually what a real parent should do. She is thinking what... Ozy47

    did you miss the part where she's hitting him (even going so far to lock him away)? what? you think he's hitting himself? did you miss the sister's whole story?? she's treating her children like this based off what a fricking fortune teller told her! this is straight up abuse. don't kid youself

    sniglet January 22, 2021 4:28 am
    I accidentally pressed like sorry. Stop making the mom look like she is the villain she is not!! When you look at her perspective what she is doing is actually what a real parent should do. She is thinking what... Ozy47

    shes literally abusing her son, dumb fuck.

    The Misanthrope January 22, 2021 12:26 pm
    I accidentally pressed like sorry. Stop making the mom look like she is the villain she is not!! When you look at her perspective what she is doing is actually what a real parent should do. She is thinking what... Ozy47

    I don't see it being self centered. Is being envious of other people mean that you are spoiled and self centered?
    My mother was very similar to Suho's mom and my experience was closer to his sister. It's true I was given stuff without asking but what I really want was not given. Is that being spoiled? I was fine with the controlling behavior but what broke my peace was when she came to my room and check every nook and cranny to find my HIDDEN MANGA COLLECTION and hobbies and threw them away (very similar feels to when Suho's mom destroyed his PC, very relatable for me). To be honest if this control has been since childhood it is a lot easier to adapt than the sudden feeling of being king one day and next you are a slave. Suho's lashing out isn't even that bad. If I am that depressed I usually wouldn't leave my room, answer phone or talk to anyone. My worst lasted a month long.
    Do you think I am self centered? I had people envious of the things I had too.

    YAOI JUNKIE January 23, 2021 4:51 am
    I accidentally pressed like sorry. Stop making the mom look like she is the villain she is not!! When you look at her perspective what she is doing is actually what a real parent should do. She is thinking what... Ozy47

    I agree with nothing you just mentioned, like are we reading the same manga

lukewarm_oj January 15, 2021 4:12 pm

i. i really want those two to be in a healthy relationship, but like both of them are mentally not all there in the brain-pan you know. like,,,, god i just want you guys to be happy, but i literally can't place my trust in either of their feelings for reach other. louise is too sketchy even if he's self-aware, and theo is the exact opposite. he's pretty genuine with what he's feeling, but i legitimately can't place any trust in theo's feelings and abilities of discerning obsession from loyalty. like i have no faith in either of their social capabilities and maybe that's shitty of me, but like,,, you two have a LOT of issues and idk if this relationship is going to become one of them.

like these two fuckers,,, im,,,

lukewarm_oj January 14, 2021 10:15 pm

LMAO i love the mc she has like. shounen op protagonist energy. like. luffy from one piece you know.

like,,, the fact that she's so utterly unbothered gets to me like omg i love that type of character the most

lukewarm_oj January 13, 2021 2:48 pm

i didnt even know him going around mostly naked was going to be a gag, and im genuinely upset it seems to be over like asjkaso;jfsei imagine,,, trying to not die and you just see this random player running around fucking half naked im losing my shit

    Tsura Sobasa January 14, 2021 5:10 pm

    that imagination is hilarious! (≧∀≦) there were definitely countless victims because of just seeing him run by while they are in a fight! (⌒▽⌒)

lukewarm_oj January 12, 2021 3:18 pm

also, i'm now really curious about blue demon. like i don't need an entire rundown of his past living as the demon king, but i am kinda curious as to what type of relationships he had and if blue demon specifically will ever come back (since he seemed closer to mc than the others, and since mc straight up stabbed him)

    lee883 January 13, 2021 6:05 am

    Same, I'm curious as well

    DRAGON LOTUS January 14, 2021 1:31 pm

    I honestly think deep down they had a beautiful relationship as brothers but status got in the way. But I think our mc never forgot and brought him down with him like if they ride together they die together you get me? Like hes like you want me dead well I want you dead with me, also I wanna believe the blue demon reincarnated as well seeing as they died together at almost the same time.(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

lukewarm_oj January 12, 2021 3:05 pm

honestly, love this. the plot is wild, the cast is absolutely EVERYWHERE, and i have absolutely no idea what's going to happen next

lukewarm_oj January 12, 2021 1:57 pm

yo i avoided reading this for so long bc so many comments said the fl was unbearable
BUT I FUCKING LOVE HER? LIKE FROM THE FIRST CHAPTER she's UTTERLY hilarious and brutally persistent. sure she whines, but tbh in her situation and with her background it'd be weirder if she didn't. also it's way more interesting with a personality like hers that's antagonizing, and like we rarely see fls who are both purposefully annoying, but also strong willed. besides, her strengths are independent of how much she has to rely on the ml for a certain moment, and i think that[s pretty cool too.

also i feel like we rarely see a manga where the fl's strengths are revealed later into the plot, with her more "unlikeable" traits being the only ones we know at first (not like i thought she was ever unlikeable, but i think lots of ppl did). like usually they give away hints to their insecurities/backgrounds since the beginning to try and make their personality more "forgiveable" or "understandable" (even though i think being utterly unapologetic and not being obliged to feel bad about her personality is a charm of hers that i LOVE), while with her, they completely hid any of her insecurities/past from her pov, and only gave us hints recently or through the ml's recollections.

anyways. she's funny, and since im a simple person i love funny, so by transitive property i love her

    kuku January 13, 2021 7:58 pm

    Mee too i was sceptical of reading it because of those comments but HELLO she is GREAT
    I love her
    She is refreshing ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Okaysenpai January 14, 2021 4:12 am

    Same I love her so much. The dynamic between the FL and ML is hilarious.(⌒▽⌒)

lukewarm_oj January 12, 2021 11:43 am

bruh why didnt he poison the glass beforehand bc now all this prep makes me think hes too incompetent to even do it right

    EatMyNut69 January 12, 2021 11:48 am

    There's no cure for stupidity. Imagine this thing becoming a King or Duke

    idk what January 12, 2021 11:59 am
    There's no cure for stupidity. Imagine this thing becoming a King or Duke EatMyNut69

    Oh my, please don’t say such scary things XD

lukewarm_oj January 11, 2021 9:53 pm

love that the entire story is essentialy gang jiho & co. who're all losing ten years of their lives from the mental stress of jiho's existence (like. this is including all his high school friends and family members), and i think that's hilarious

lukewarm_oj January 11, 2021 6:06 pm

like all the characters are distinctly loveable, not just the main cast? such as irene and the saintess like all the "antagonists" are funny asf and not even bad ppl they're just,,, eccentric. and like?? kain, the rlly strong maid, even riChard, and the ml like they're pretty cool too.
like i straight up didn't think i was gonna like the ML. i thought he was going to be a: "i'm a straightup asshole to everyone but yOu so somehow my unreasonable bloodthirstiness just makes you super special!!!" but he's actually not that much morally bankrupt and is pretty chill for the most part.

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