lostikins July 9, 2024 11:51 am

Like, ofc I'm excited for bottom dom x top sub, but I felt like everything was going too smoothly anyways once they met. I'm still happy to see bottom doms, but personally as a switch who mostly bottoms as a dom it's kinda nice to see how they'll struggle and get through this.

At least it's better than the other switch I know of in a different series that abused his sub for ages 'cause he was too afraid to ever be submissive. Touma has always been sweet and more of a softer dom the entire time so I kinda suspected he might be a switch in the end.

Also, this idea that I'm seeing crop up that this isn't "actually domsubverse" just 'cause it isn't hard-core BDSM is making me cackle. Not every play has to be ropes and chains or absolutely humiliating your partner. Some of us literally feel the most fulfilled just wearing an accessory to show "ownership" while others do enjoy more rough, violent while consensual plays. It just goes to show how ignorant you guys are about BDSM/kink/fetish culture.

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    MariChem July 9, 2024 12:25 pm

    Nice review

    Mioro July 9, 2024 12:26 pm

    Not to cause discord but this IS rlly the most domsubverse story ever bc 99% of them are like this. Ive never rlly came across one that doesn't end with "the power of love cure our needs for anythings above spicy vanilla"

    Like somehow I do wish authors will use this subgenre to explore more bdsm dynamics (like this one w a sub top x dom bottom) and include plays with particular kinks and not just do a slightly rough sex first chapter and then just normal sex w a "good boy" in the middle for the rest of the volume

    lostikins July 9, 2024 12:41 pm
    Not to cause discord but this IS rlly the most domsubverse story ever bc 99% of them are like this. Ive never rlly came across one that doesn't end with "the power of love cure our needs for anythings above spi... Mioro

    Tbh the only thing this series has on other domsubverse's is the fact that the dom/switch is a bottom lol

    I know of one other series that, if I remember correctly, had a dom bottom but it wasn't domsubverse it was just a young man who did BDSM shows and the older guy that fell in love with his dom queen act.

    Other than that tho most series with this trope are pretty much the same. People are acting like this trope is super diverse or something when it's less so than omegaverse.

    lostikins July 9, 2024 12:42 pm
    Nice review MariChem

    Lol

    Kuze July 9, 2024 2:52 pm

    Well domsubverse and BDSM are 2 separate genre, domsubverse is like this in which they have secondary gender that separated from the male and female, those are the dom and sub and occasionally switch which switching the dom into sub and vice versa and there are normal which dont have those secondary, so think of it like omegaverse where there are the alpha (equivalent to the dom) and omega (equivalent to the sub) and beta (normal) but omegaverse included mpreg, as for BDSM its a genre in which the BDSM involved, so if the domsubverse also has BDSM as a genre that means the domsubverse involves the BDSM in the story

    Kuze July 9, 2024 2:54 pm
    Tbh the only thing this series has on other domsubverse's is the fact that the dom/switch is a bottom lolI know of one other series that, if I remember correctly, had a dom bottom but it wasn't domsubverse it w... lostikins

    Then come the day cakeverse joined in in the weirdos of verse world ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    lostikins July 9, 2024 5:27 pm

    Kuze change your fucking settings lol

    I know what domsubverse is. I have an ongoing list of all the ones I've read and remembered to put on there.

    When I was referring to the other series with a dom and sub it wasn't a domsubverse series. It was just a regular young man who was a queen and one of the customers/viewers that fell in love with how beautiful he looked while performing.

    The general rules for something to be considered domsubverse is the dom, sub and switch are secondary sexes or natures. There are those who are "normal" outside of verses and do not suffer the mental and physical backlash those that do have a secondary do. The typical setting is top dom x bottom sub. There is an accessory-- "collar"-- system that is used when mutual trust is gained between partners that want to show that they belong to one another. Sometimes, depending on the writer's discretion, pheromones come into play, but it isn't a core rule to be considered a domsubverse story. The main thing that matters is the secondary sex that lies outside of the primary, safe words, commands/plays and the collar system.

    The part where BDSM comes into play with domsubverse are the commands/plays. Irl they are more commonly called "scenes" but you can use play interchangeably. BDSM is heavily centered around mutual trust between consenting parties, establishing boundaries, a safe word and catering to one another's needs and wants. It isn't just hitting one another or humiliating your partner. Some people might like that, but that isn't the same for everyone.

    Which is why it annoys me that people are trying to say this isn't a domsubverse work when it establishes the core rules and setting needed for it to be one. They even have suppressants to help curb the impulses brought on by involuntary secondary impulses.

lostikins July 9, 2024 6:22 am

Claiming to drop uploading a series 'cause "the rating is low so obviously people don't like it" when in reality it's most likely the chapter format or your ugly attitude towards readers and mangaka alike.

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    lostikins July 9, 2024 6:24 am

    The only people "complaining" are on troll accounts for an illegal manga pirating site or puritans who can't handle anything a touch more spicy than milquetoast hand-holding between chaste virgins.

    Or Kuze. This mfer is rarely ever satisfied with this genre which makes you wonder why they even read it to begin with lol

    「   」 July 9, 2024 8:37 am
    The only people "complaining" are on troll accounts for an illegal manga pirating site or puritans who can't handle anything a touch more spicy than milquetoast hand-holding between chaste virgins.Or Kuze. This... lostikins

    Ikr the audacity to trash on others but mad when they got the same treatment.

    lostikins July 9, 2024 11:58 am
    Ikr the audacity to trash on others but mad when they got the same treatment. 「   」

    I wouldn't even point it out if it wasn't for the fact that I hardly ever see Kuze enjoy anything they read.

    Even this title that they uploaded themselves they were immediately like "idek I thought this one was good but now I regret it 'cause it might actually be trash"-- which is something you read from them 90% of the time. And it's not even anything constructive, it's always something like "this artist/author should just quit their job and never make anything ever again" which rubs me the wrong way as someone with a partner that does freelance illustrations as a career and I myself do art albeit not as often.

    It's petty.

lostikins July 7, 2024 2:17 am

I clicked on this one ((I was reading the other works by this mangaka)) thinking to myself "you know, it'd be funny if I checked on this one and it updated."

Yaoi god works in mysterious ways lol

lostikins June 30, 2024 2:37 am

GIMME MORE, PLEASE???????

    mari June 30, 2024 2:41 am

    I checked and bato has their other work (in chinese) and omgg generational abuse + grooming + shota

    ciago June 30, 2024 7:42 am
    I checked and bato has their other work (in chinese) and omgg generational abuse + grooming + shota mari

    im appalled but not shocked

    lostikins August 27, 2024 7:10 am
    im appalled but not shocked ciago

    So glad I'm not built like a piece of wet tissue paper lol

lostikins June 30, 2024 2:15 am

I am immune to the scrawny kpop boys.

We love our short king, Taka in this house.

    lostikins June 30, 2024 2:18 am

    Like, Taka frequently holds/carries Hina with one arm when he's a solid couple inches shorter than the guy lol

    You ain't winning this, pretty boy.

    Room 707 July 1, 2024 6:47 pm
    Like, Taka frequently holds/carries Hina with one arm when he's a solid couple inches shorter than the guy lolYou ain't winning this, pretty boy. lostikins

    straight truth sfhjgfghh like sure he’s cute but could he blow someone’s back out literally without the ability to use one arm bc it’s in a cast??? not likely lololol

    lostikins July 15, 2024 4:43 am
    straight truth sfhjgfghh like sure he’s cute but could he blow someone’s back out literally without the ability to use one arm bc it’s in a cast??? not likely lololol Room 707

    JHDEBCEDIHCBEIFHBVEIHBFV

    I just love Taka lol I love that the older, more experienced one is shorter than his younger counterpart and treats him like a princess. Like, he actively gives Hina the love and attention he's always craved and in the way he wants it.

    I've enjoyed watching their relationship take form and grow since chapter 1 dropped lol

lostikins June 29, 2024 1:47 am

Aight BRB while I fucking kms--

((This is a joke I don't mind and actually prefer when artists take breaks to better pace themselves I'm just obsessed with this series lol))

lostikins June 17, 2024 8:26 am

A professional hater.

Get a life, lil bro lol

    lostikins June 17, 2024 8:36 am

    Anyways, this seems to be an amateur fan translation so I don't think the names for things are an accurate 1:1 translation.

    It's not that his grandpa is a "great hole" but that he has power related to it lol

    Anyways, I'm kinda excited to see how sad it gets seeing as we already know that his grandpa dies and the angel gives up his wings to live with him till the end.

lostikins June 2, 2024 12:21 am

If the rape scenes and abuse the characters are going through ((Yehwa, Baeksa AND Muyeon)) are too much for you to handle just drop it.

No one is forcing you to stay here. I will literally make a list of manga that have 0 toxic tropes in them for you if it'll get you to stfu and leave.

Atp it feels like a "the lady doth protest too much" scenario where ya'll are complaining to make it seem like you don't like this shit while you secretly enjoy it.

    Ilovebl June 2, 2024 2:16 am

    What's the list

    lostikins June 7, 2024 6:06 pm
    What's the list Ilovebl

    I haven't made one 'cause I personally don't give af whether something has dark themes or not. I'm a psychological horror/thriller fan to my core lol

    I said I'd make one if that'd make all these fuck ass losers stfu and leave anyone who does like reading these series alone.

    simp June 7, 2024 10:57 pm
    I haven't made one 'cause I personally don't give af whether something has dark themes or not. I'm a psychological horror/thriller fan to my core lolI said I'd make one if that'd make all these fuck ass losers ... lostikins

    bye anyone who fetishizes stories like these and looks for only stories with these themes they are the problem. don’t want people bashing you on it? don’t fetishize rape and dark themes.

    if you aren’t then you shouldn’t get offended by this comment #-.-)

    simp June 7, 2024 11:06 pm
    bye anyone who fetishizes stories like these and looks for only stories with these themes they are the problem. don’t want people bashing you on it? don’t fetishize rape and dark themes. if you aren’t the... simp

    bye never fucking mind, this person was literally complaining about there not being enough rape or dark themes like pedo shit when the manga was about HIGHSCHOOL STUDENTS.

    mimi June 8, 2024 10:00 am

    Exactly, I don’t see why these people are still reading the thing they say they hate. HYPOCRITES

    simp June 9, 2024 8:40 am
    Exactly, I don’t see why these people are still reading the thing they say they hate. HYPOCRITES mimi

    lmao you can read the story and hate what happens to the character it’s common sense, and just so you know that person is a pedophile

    Jeemee June 13, 2024 3:35 pm
    bye anyone who fetishizes stories like these and looks for only stories with these themes they are the problem. don’t want people bashing you on it? don’t fetishize rape and dark themes. if you aren’t the... simp

    LMFAOOO TRUE

lostikins May 26, 2024 2:30 am

Partner's conversations lol

That last panel about him turning his bf into a househusband is too topical.

lostikins May 21, 2024 11:19 pm

Stayed up to binge read all the current updates.

My life is ruined OTL

Fr tho this series is so good. The psychological aspects of it. The murder-mystery. I could feel nothing but pain for Hee-seo and everything he has been through since he was basically born.

Honestly, I do feel kinda bad for Taekyung, but my need to see Hee-seo heal from everything or at least get justice for the shit life he and his mom had live far outweighs my concern for Taekyung atp. Like, he had the evidence to put the murderer away regardless of whether or not she has cancer. It's so fucked when you think about the fact that she's been monitoring his every move AND she could have potentially put Hee-seo in danger since she confirmed he was rescued from the fire and Taekyung folded like a wet paper napkin and made Hee-seo's life far worse than before.

The only reason why she didn't splatter Hee-seo's guts with her car and only bumped him is 'cause she knew almost every step of the way that once Taekyung found out she had stage 3 he wouldn't be able to put her away.

Tbh, I think Hee-seo should do whatever he needs to to feel better. He's dealt with nothing but abuse, and the one person who said would never abandon him did.

What's even sadder is that once Hee-seo realized it was Taekyung's foster mom who killed his mom and even tried to kill him he knew that Taekyung would choose to protect her over him.

Shit fucking hurts.

    lostikins May 21, 2024 1:49 pm

    Anyways, anyone know where I can find the raws? I can't read anything but English, but I want to see what goes down if s2 has already started.

    HRAensn May 21, 2024 5:07 pm

    I know Taehyun was raped by Heeseo but honestly…he put himself to this situation by bringing him home, doing all that stuff.

    lostikins May 21, 2024 11:16 pm
    I know Taehyun was raped by Heeseo but honestly…he put himself to this situation by bringing him home, doing all that stuff. HRAensn

    Yeah I know that happens since the start to ch.1 is actually a flashforward for what happens in s2 lol

    I'm just saying that with how much Taehyun and his foster mother have ruined Heeseo's life I cam forgive the abuse that's comin'. He knew Heeseo suffered from immense trauma and years of abuse to the point that he frequently had suicidal ideations and often harmed himself or others during his episodes. He's lucky Heeseo didn't turn into a school shooter or a terrorist bomber after he literally broke his mind.

    Taehyun wanted to keep his disgusting, manipulative foster mother alive and ultimately chose her over Heeseo despite his promise to him. Physical trauma is the least he could put up with outta the poor guy.

    Hoshhos May 26, 2024 6:34 pm

    Exactly how i feel. I feel really bad about hee-seo, the flashback when he was trying to cook made me cry then after all shits she found a shitty foster family who will just add traumas they even stopped his therapy damn it. He's so fucked up. I bet even more in s2

    lostikins May 26, 2024 11:33 pm
    Exactly how i feel. I feel really bad about hee-seo, the flashback when he was trying to cook made me cry then after all shits she found a shitty foster family who will just add traumas they even stopped his t... Hoshhos

    He's the biggest victim in all this and yet everyone around him just keeps piling on more abuse and trauma.

    Atp they deserve whatever revenge Heeseo evokes. They had it comin' lol

    RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼ May 29, 2024 5:50 pm

    Finally someone with brain knows what's going on in this story and enjoying how crazily author come up with good manhwa in full of porn world , Cha is to blame he felt guilty and thrust his guilt upon heeseo even though he told him to leave him alone never wanted him to be saved boy just wanted sweet love and happy time and steady therapy not revenge when he saw Cha he forgot about his revenge for his mother but yet sudden backward step of cha is one of most biggest mistake that lead boy to wrong path. I m so excited for new season which is coming next week

    Brook777453 June 5, 2024 8:22 pm
    I know Taehyun was raped by Heeseo but honestly…he put himself to this situation by bringing him home, doing all that stuff. HRAensn

    No one deserves to be rapef

    HRAensn June 5, 2024 10:49 pm
    No one deserves to be rapef Brook777453

    Didn’t say that. I just said he brought that upon himself by bringing him into the house and coddling him

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