So many are saying that both guys are stupid and airheads, and one obviously is. But the other? I suspect he knows very well what he wants and is suggesting, and has been playing a long game all this time. Not that dumb. In fact that is what the other friend at the very end is hinting at.
I feel like there are several themes being all tangled up and confused with each other to the point that it is hard to tell them apart.
I think this is the one time where you could rightfully call the uke slutty, but not for having for having more than one partner. More in the way in how it is all done. I never think a character as "slutty" merely for engaging in casual sex but for seemingly being willing to have sex with anybody indiscriminately.
Then there is the way the boys as whole treat the whole issue and Chiaki. It seems more than a little mean-spirited to simply make bets that he will soon be gone. I guess all that friendliness was just fake or they would, whether or not Chiaki wanted to join in, want to talk to him to find a way he would be ok with the situation. Instead they're laughing about something that could ruin his future.
On the one hand, this story certainly got you involved with the MC, so I guess that's a plus. But if the uke is going to be the roommate then we've been given every reason to dislike him. He's being both slutty and unsympathetic since he knows how much being in school means to Chiaki. The only one of those boys who is being nice is the other dark haired science student. Can we have a romantic pairing between Chiaki and him please?
I KNOW RIGHT. I ship Shinobu x Chiaki so haaaard damn. But then they would make top x top? (￣∇￣") but I kinda have a feeling Shinobu’s roommate has a thing for him (the guy in glasses) or the other way around IDK though just my unpopular opinion lol ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
While the basic outline of the story was fine, the delivery felt a bit choppy. Like there was some pages missing here and there. It just literally felt like they edited out bits and pieces to cut down the size of the chapters and hoped the the readers wouldn't mind filling in the gaps themselves. While I'm capable of filling in the gaps, it just is poorly done if the feeling I get when reading is of pages missing.
There are a ton of mistranslation in this chapter. The chapter has much better flow in the raw.
That is very likely true, but I felt that whole panels showing sequences of the story were missing. It is that which gives that choppy, pages missing feeling, not the likely mistranslations that may be there.
This was not a bad story. In fact as stories go it was pretty good. The problem was I didn't get it really til I read the comments explaining the story. Then I could see it. And I wasn't the only one by a long shot. A story that isn't written clearly enough that most people get it without an explanation, just isn't written well enough as is and should be redone. Not only is the mangaka at fault but the editor as well. And it is a shame, because as I wrote to begin with it is a good story that deserved to be told better. Especially as I really thought the art was good as well.
That may be all there is but that wasn't very complete. The story just stopped in the middle without any resolution at all. I hate that feeling.
So WHEN is this latest update taking place? Now or then? If the manga is going to be skipping back and forth in time I wish it would make the distinction a bit clearer when it chooses to do a skip. I'm assuming it is in the now as it doesn't seem to make much sense in the past where we were. I found the whole update jarring, and a lot of it was because I was confused as to WHEN it was taking place.
ITs clearly now as they did have sex in chap2.5
Also u can distinct by Yezis long hair
I know that they had sex way back in ch. 2.5, but we were just finishing ch. 12, so it was some time ago. Besides Ye Zi was lying down so I wasn't quite sure about the hair length. Nor was I sure if it was supposed to be a few months after what happened in ch. 12 or whatever, so Ye Zi might have started growing his hair then. That's the point. I just wish at the beginning of the update there would have been something like "Present Time" in big letters that you couldn't miss, and "The Past" when it returns to the past. Sometimes flashbacks are obvious like when they're kids etc. but if they look much the same it can be hard to tell unless the mangaka makes it clear where past ends and present begins.
Oh my, I don't know whether to laugh or cry! What awkwardness. No one should see their friend like that unless they want to on purpose. But what of that shop employee? Can't help feeling like that scene was a bit forced, with the employee being both deaf and dumb to the fact the guy was clearly a friend who was returning a wallet and NOT a customer. Aren't those type shop employees supposed pay attention to what type of customer walks in, vetting them subtly, in order to protect their staff?
well that guy didn't say anyhting about the wallet and because he said the wall guy's real name the employee might thought (which he already did in some pages, he said "is he really a friend if mitsuru told him about this address") he is just a sex friend or lover kinda thing
Ok- Let us for a moment see it from the employee's POV. Some guy, likely a customer walks in and then asks for one of the "working" staff by real name. Do you just assume that he is a friend and that the staff member told him about the place, but somehow forgot to tell him to ask for him by stage name? Or do you assume that the guy either knows nothing of the place, or perhaps what exactly his friend does there? Or even that the guy is a friend at all? As you can tell there are an awful lot of possible explanations, and all things considered it is pretty dumb and risky just to assume that he was told about the place from his friend.
well of course what you are saying is logical but I assume that they are in red light strict which is a place full of different people and even though he may be stupid but won't just anyone think that some place which is really hard to find and has lots os stairs and when the guy comes in the employee quickly starts to talk about the prices and after that he just asks about mitsuru. Like I said right after the prices. I don't think that it's employee's fault but more like the guy is too stupid to see what's really going on
Yes, well, and that is partly why I felt the whole scene felt forced. Normally I would think new customers would be asked more questions as to their preferences etc. as part of the subtle vetting process, and so asking for someone by their real name would be a red flag that would give both of those employees there pause. That should have made them ask how he knew him and his real name, at the very least. So that employee's not just stupid, but really bad at his job.
idk if you read the other manga by this author, but that one has the same butt-wall setup but with two brothers, which makes it even worse. i think the awkwardness/cringe/taboo is part of the kink for her
Well I just want to say that it's just fiction and there is not even a real thing like butt wall. this is just fiction, just imagination! of course in real they wouldn't even just take him in he may be a stalker or some shit but it's fiction! in the next episode he can puke rainbow and fart perfume and just disappear
Oh! The butt wall is actually a real thing. >.< I got curious and looked it up and... I ... seen things... Japanese porn takes kinks to a new height :I
wait, do they really do something like this!!?? ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
I realize its fiction, and my OP was about how one part seemed a bit forced and why. You were the one who decided to argue the point with me. If I choose to point out at some other time of a manga that the dialogue is unnatural would that be wrong of me? Personally, how serious a flaw something like this is depends on what type of story I'm reading. In this case, not really.
I do know that I kinda started to argue but well I was kinda stressed and even little things could tempt me. I just hate the idea of criticizing something like this, I mean it's just manga if you don't like it then don't read it but well if you wanted to give author a simple comment then you could do it a lot nicer. Once again I understand that I started this whole thing so I'm sorry.
First off, there's no need to apologize. You have absolutely nothing to apologize for. When I said "argue" I meant as in debate, which is quite fine with me. And believe me, I understand and sympathize with you when it comes to stress. Have too much of that myself. But I doubt the mangaka is reading my, or any of the comments here. What I wrote isn't for the mangaka, but for other readers in this forum. And to me, this forum is a place where we readers can share and voice our opinions of mangas, and, unless someone is being really rude and obnoxious, I think it a good thing for this forum to be tolerant of differing opinions, even those that may be partly or completely critical of a manga someone else liked. Personally, I for example seldom downvote anything.
I understand that we all can share our own opinions but when someone (not you, just one of my past experiences) says that it's trash even though I liked it so much it just seems sad for me. I mean if you don't like something then don't read it. why try to make it bad for everyone? And yes I agree with you we can all share our own opinions but why not tell it more kindly?
Agreed. There's a difference between just rudely stating that something is trash and giving a well argued critique. In the second case, even if you disagree you at least understand why the person had that opinion, and can judge whether or not there's some merit to their argument. In the first case, you have no idea why that person felt that way, so all you can do is disagree and get annoyed. In my opinion, as long as people are simply politely stating their viewpoints, and if critical explaining why so everyone else can understand, that is all one can ask. Sometimes I can be critical exactly because the story and the characters matter to me, and I feel that a sudden turn or plot twist totally betrays the story or characters, forcing everything to seem very contrived. As someone who grew up reading and discussing books, the idea that you can't critique a book or manga you like is really foreign to me. Even with some of my all time favorite books I'd be the first to admit that they have some faults.
I totally agree with you and now that you explained why you think like that I can understand some things from your point of view too. And I do agree that the employees didn't protect their staff, I mean he was clearly sick. Maybe he had a cold or flu. They could just give him a day off. Even though he needs money the employees should support him not just tell some random dude that he should help the guy. Anyway I do critique the books or manga or movies, I just don't like sharing them cause something I don't like may be someone's favorite. Like I don't like innocent ukes cause they seem too unrealistic, but someone may like them and if I write in the comments "The uke is too unrealistic I didn't like him" someone can get sad, well at least that's what I think. I also think that some people look at comments before reading the manga that's why they can be like "hmm it has lots of bad comments maybe I shouldnt read it" however maybe if they read it they would actually really like it! Anyway it was nice talking to you like this.
Actually I rely sometimes on critical comments like those to avoid things I don't like myself. I also tend to get annoyed with certain tropes, and if someone makes a well reasoned criticism I pay attention. I don't see why anybody should become so easily sad just because their preference wasn't to everyone's taste. Some people do like the dumb over innocent uke obviously, and find it cute. And some of those mangas may have other redeeming things going for them that I enjoy, despite a dumb innocent uke. So I always try fair in my comments, though usually making more of a point of explaining any criticism than praise. My own family doesn't think much of my taste for yaoi, but what the heck I don't feel the need to defend every genre I read or watch for my own entertainment to them.
And yes it is always nice when we do talk and exchange ideas without having to be mean or nasty about it. Don't understand why so many find it necessary to do so. Thankfully there's a lot of nice decent people out there who don't.
Well that escalated quickly. But also since it went for the kill so quick it kind of took much of the excitement and any of that potential sweet tension out of it already. And as I feared the uke is a going to be a spoiled unreasonable demanding brat.
I'm not sure what that "confession" was supposed to be about, but it wasn't about love. And it seemed to represent the worst of the whole "confession" culture. The girl clearly argued that she couldn't understand why Xiao Hang didn't want to go out with her because she had good grades, would be able to keep up with him academically and was pretty too. As if that was all it took. How shallow! And this is after he's already rejected her. So her making a scene at this point is nothing more than emotional blackmail.
Even if she did have a crush on him for the longest time, as someone else rightly pointed out, confessing HER feelings does NOT entitle her to know any of HIS feelings beyond that he doesn't return them. Besides why would Xiao Hang want to tell someone he hasn't really talked to before all HIS romantic hopes and thoughts just because that person confesses to him with the shallowest of motivations?
You said it bruh
I feel for Yuta having to learn all that. I really sympathize since none of this was his choice until now. But now that he has chosen to accept loving Mei-san back, all that learning is part of it. Yuta can't keep being a simple Japanese cook just hoping to survive anymore, he's now part this world's power politics, and will need to know all that so he doesn't end up a helpless pawn at the mercy of everyone. Especially if he really wants to be able to help Mei-san as an equal partner and not just be someone Mei-san has to worry about and constantly protect.
Couldn't of said it better myself.
Actually, disagree. Still not his choice. And Mel acts like it's not his problem? Ugh, so cliched.
As long as Yuta believed he didn't want to be in a relationship, or if he had made a choice that despite knowing his feelings that getting involved with a prince was just too much, I'm sure there were several things Yuta could have done. Yuta did finally agree by his own choice, even though he wasn't there at all by choice. Nor do we always choose who we fall in love with. Yuta fell in love with a prince and has chosen to remain with him. The story makes it very clear that it is his his choice in the end.